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TheVoid

Is Sadness ever Healthy?

I don't like being sad.

I really don't. It destroys motivation, it completely transforms me into somebody I'm not in general, and it derails me often for weeks or months at a time.

I much more prefer anger over sadness. I find anger to be a very motivating emotion and one in which I am able to more quickly overcome.


But either way, there has to be some reason we've evolved to feel these emotions. They must provide some benefit to our lives, no?


I find that when I read a book with tender moments in it, I'm filled with a certain reverse-sadness lol. What I mean by this is that I feel joy for the characters in the book, but only because I've experienced sadness as a result of the opposite conditions or outcomes the characters have gone through. Sure, I'd probably feel happy for them anyway--but the emotions are deeper, more gratifying, and intrinsic when it relates to something I myself went through but with bad results. Does this even make sense to yall crazy motherfuckers and hos?




Anyways, I would love to hear your take on it. Even those of you who hate me and whose hatred I absorb with amusement and a healthy dose of self-agrandizing smugness. hug



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Reply #1 posted 02/28/10 3:33am

HamsterHuey

Of course it is, don't be daft.
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Reply #2 posted 02/28/10 3:41am

whistle

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i'm with the OP. it seems much more cathartic to smash something than to sit and cry.

but then, i have a Y chromosome...
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Reply #3 posted 02/28/10 3:49am

MrsMdiver

Anger can have adverse effects like high blood pressure.
When I get angry, ppl usually laugh and tell me I am cute when angry.
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Reply #4 posted 02/28/10 4:02am

TheVoid

MrsMdiver said:

Anger can have adverse effects like high blood pressure.
When I get angry, ppl usually laugh and tell me I am cute when angry.
pissed

I know girls, (and so far it seems to be only girls that I know) who
cry when they're angry. I never understood this.
Do you also cry when you're angry?
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Reply #5 posted 02/28/10 4:15am

MrsMdiver

TheVoid said:

MrsMdiver said:

Anger can have adverse effects like high blood pressure.
When I get angry, ppl usually laugh and tell me I am cute when angry.
pissed

I know girls, (and so far it seems to be only girls that I know) who
cry when they're angry. I never understood this.
Do you also cry when you're angry?


YES

stab

I HATE it!
When I get mad, I am always told to calm down.
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Reply #6 posted 02/28/10 5:08am

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Of course!

It's a quiet emotion that slows you down and puts you in touch with suffering. If you allow compassion for yourself to flow through you during your sad times, you will have a deeper love for yourself and a deeper well of compassion for those you come in contact with.

Or you're just a big weepy fag.

One or the other.
It's what you make it.
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Reply #7 posted 02/28/10 5:09am

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TheVoid said:

I don't like being sad.

I really don't. It destroys motivation, it completely transforms me into somebody I'm not in general, and it derails me often for weeks or months at a time.

I much more prefer anger over sadness. I find anger to be a very motivating emotion and one in which I am able to more quickly overcome.


I used to be almost an anger-holic because of this. It was like being on speed. I would turn any sadness into anger, and burn right through it. Ultimately it wasn't good for my health, and made me act like an asshole more often than I should have.
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Reply #8 posted 02/28/10 5:51am

TheVoid

PunkMistress said:

Of course!

It's a quiet emotion that slows you down and puts you in touch with suffering. If you allow compassion for yourself to flow through you during your sad times, you will have a deeper love for yourself and a deeper well of compassion for those you come in contact with.

Or you're just a big weepy fag.

One or the other.

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Reply #9 posted 02/28/10 6:33am

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I'm rarely angry, but I cry all the time. I can't help it. The older I get, the more I'm like my mother in that regard. She tears up and the seemingly smallest things, and now, me too.

But crying for me just expresses overwhelming emotion, whatever it may be - sadness, happiness, anger, frustration...

In some ways it can be annoying - I wear a lot of eye make-up and I have to esnure that's not all over my face. And you just can't cry at work. And I don't think I ever have when someone's seen me. But I've teared up at my desk over a stupid chain forward email, tears all streaming down my face. rolleyes

But like punkmistress said - it's the emotion of suffering. I think we all have to suffer to develop compassion for our fellow man.

And if we're never sad - how would we ever know when we're happy?
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Reply #10 posted 02/28/10 6:35am

MrsMdiver

CarrieMpls said:

I'm rarely angry, but I cry all the time. I can't help it. The older I get, the more I'm like my mother in that regard. She tears up and the seemingly smallest things, and now, me too.

But crying for me just expresses overwhelming emotion, whatever it may be - sadness, happiness, anger, frustration...

In some ways it can be annoying - I wear a lot of eye make-up and I have to esnure that's not all over my face. And you just can't cry at work. And I don't think I ever have when someone's seen me. But I've teared up at my desk over a stupid chain forward email, tears all streaming down my face. rolleyes

But like punkmistress said - it's the emotion of suffering. I think we all have to suffer to develop compassion for our fellow man.

And if we're never sad - how would we ever know when we're happy?



Well said. nod

Don't forget about hormones.
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Reply #11 posted 02/28/10 6:39am

CarrieMpls

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MrsMdiver said:

CarrieMpls said:

I'm rarely angry, but I cry all the time. I can't help it. The older I get, the more I'm like my mother in that regard. She tears up and the seemingly smallest things, and now, me too.

But crying for me just expresses overwhelming emotion, whatever it may be - sadness, happiness, anger, frustration...

In some ways it can be annoying - I wear a lot of eye make-up and I have to esnure that's not all over my face. And you just can't cry at work. And I don't think I ever have when someone's seen me. But I've teared up at my desk over a stupid chain forward email, tears all streaming down my face. rolleyes

But like punkmistress said - it's the emotion of suffering. I think we all have to suffer to develop compassion for our fellow man.

And if we're never sad - how would we ever know when we're happy?



Well said. nod

Don't forget about hormones.
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Yup - that's a big part of it. It's how I know I'm getting my period, I get all weepy and extra sensitive and depressed the couple of days before.
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Reply #12 posted 02/28/10 6:41am

TheVoid

I see what you ladies are saying. Your posts always make me suffer, but in the end I'll be a better person for it, right?
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Reply #13 posted 02/28/10 6:41am

Genesia

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PunkMistress said:

Of course!

It's a quiet emotion that slows you down and puts you in touch with suffering. If you allow compassion for yourself to flow through you during your sad times, you will have a deeper love for yourself and a deeper well of compassion for those you come in contact with.

Or you're just a big weepy fag.

One or the other.


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Reply #14 posted 02/28/10 6:42am

MrsMdiver

CarrieMpls said:

MrsMdiver said:




Well said. nod

Don't forget about hormones.
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Yup - that's a big part of it. It's how I know I'm getting my period, I get all weepy and extra sensitive and depressed the couple of days before.


I hear ya! Mine were more stable when I was pregnant. Since then, they have been all over the place. I guess that is why some ppl say they enjoyed being pregnant.
I can say that my depression was much better when I was pregnant.
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Reply #15 posted 02/28/10 6:44am

CarrieMpls

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TheVoid said:

I see what you ladies are saying. Your posts always make me suffer, but in the end I'll be a better person for it, right?


Your face makes me suffer.

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Reply #16 posted 02/28/10 6:46am

TheVoid

CarrieMpls said:

TheVoid said:

I see what you ladies are saying. Your posts always make me suffer, but in the end I'll be a better person for it, right?


Your face makes me suffer.

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Reply #17 posted 02/28/10 6:54am

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Dan's head -> brick <- my brick
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Reply #18 posted 02/28/10 7:42am

Mach

Sadness for me is a healthy way to slow down and look at all the reasons I have not to be sad ...
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Reply #19 posted 02/28/10 2:30pm

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Sadness does suck. Recently me and my ex decided there was no hope for us to ever continue a relationship; and she seemed so calm about it, and I'm here all devastated and shit. neutral It helps I have good friends and I deleted like all the lovey dovey pictures from my facebook, but when my mind goes back to her, I get all lazy and shit, and have to remind myself, there ARE brighter days ahead.
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To either, walk the path of love, or be crippled by our hate
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Reply #20 posted 02/28/10 2:58pm

ZombieKitten

TheVoid said:

MrsMdiver said:

Anger can have adverse effects like high blood pressure.
When I get angry, ppl usually laugh and tell me I am cute when angry.
pissed

I know girls, (and so far it seems to be only girls that I know) who
cry when they're angry. I never understood this.
Do you also cry when you're angry?


are you talking about sadness by this thread or just "crying"?

confuse

you can be sad without crying at all, you can cry when you are elated and relieved.

The state of being "sad" (as opposed to depressed or grieving for example) is a temporary phase, which I think is necessary. Like remorse which hopefully prevents you from doing a stupid thing again, it's one of those emotions which drive us to do the right thing. I think as an added bonus, periods of sadness can make subsequent joy all the more sweet.

The act of crying releases all sorts of feel-good endorphins so having a good cry can make you feel a whole lot better if you let it all out and then take a few deep breaths - now THAT'S cathartic nod
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Reply #21 posted 02/28/10 2:59pm

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MrsMdiver said:

CarrieMpls said:



Yup - that's a big part of it. It's how I know I'm getting my period, I get all weepy and extra sensitive and depressed the couple of days before.


I hear ya! Mine were more stable when I was pregnant. Since then, they have been all over the place. I guess that is why some ppl say they enjoyed being pregnant.
I can say that my depression was much better when I was pregnant.
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that's more likely exhaustion than hormones dead
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Reply #22 posted 02/28/10 3:02pm

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TheVoid said:

MrsMdiver said:

Anger can have adverse effects like high blood pressure.
When I get angry, ppl usually laugh and tell me I am cute when angry.
pissed

I know girls, (and so far it seems to be only girls that I know) who
cry when they're angry. I never understood this.
Do you also cry when you're angry?


I ota cry when I'm very angry. I'm not a girl. I promise neutral
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Reply #23 posted 02/28/10 3:19pm

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Alej said:

TheVoid said:


I know girls, (and so far it seems to be only girls that I know) who
cry when they're angry. I never understood this.
Do you also cry when you're angry?


I ota cry when I'm very angry. I'm not a girl. I promise neutral


I understand that, there are alot of people like that,Including me but in certain cases .

And it depends on the situation , If something Horrible happened,I get so angry to the point i start to cry.

crying is the cure for sadness, if you are sad and you want to cry then cry as much as you can, don't keep it inside, it will kill you.

So...

Sadness is very UNhealthy.
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Reply #24 posted 02/28/10 3:47pm

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CoolTarik1 said:

Sadness does suck. Recently me and my ex decided there was no hope for us to ever continue a relationship; and she seemed so calm about it, and I'm here all devastated and shit. neutral It helps I have good friends and I deleted like all the lovey dovey pictures from my facebook, but when my mind goes back to her, I get all lazy and shit, and have to remind myself, there ARE brighter days ahead.


hug

I'm sorry you're experiencing so much pain. It doesn't make it any better that she doesn't seem to be feeling the same level of pain.

You'll get through it.

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Reply #25 posted 02/28/10 4:47pm

Fauxie

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I think it's probably necessary. The real painful kind, not the wallowing, self-absorbed feeling sorry for yourself kind that you can almost enjoy.
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Reply #26 posted 02/28/10 4:50pm

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Garden-variety sadness (as opposed to clinical depression) isn't a bad thing. It's part of the normal range of human emotion and helps to give you perspective.
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Reply #27 posted 02/28/10 4:57pm

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Genesia said:

Garden-variety sadness (as opposed to clinical depression) isn't a bad thing. It's part of the normal range of human emotion and helps to give you perspective.


That. nod
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Reply #28 posted 02/28/10 7:23pm

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TheVoid said:

I don't like being sad.

I really don't. It destroys motivation, it completely transforms me into somebody I'm not in general, and it derails me often for weeks or months at a time.

I much more prefer anger over sadness. I find anger to be a very motivating emotion and one in which I am able to more quickly overcome.


But either way, there has to be some reason we've evolved to feel these emotions. They must provide some benefit to our lives, no?


I find that when I read a book with tender moments in it, I'm filled with a certain reverse-sadness lol. What I mean by this is that I feel joy for the characters in the book, but only because I've experienced sadness as a result of the opposite conditions or outcomes the characters have gone through. Sure, I'd probably feel happy for them anyway--but the emotions are deeper, more gratifying, and intrinsic when it relates to something I myself went through but with bad results. Does this even make sense to yall crazy motherfuckers and hos?




Anyways, I would love to hear your take on it. Even those of you who hate me and whose hatred I absorb with amusement and a healthy dose of self-agrandizing smugness. hug



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My name is Naz!!! and I have a windmill where my brain is supposed to be.....

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Reply #29 posted 02/28/10 7:26pm

ZombieKitten

mostbeautifulboy said:

TheVoid said:

I don't like being sad.

I really don't. It destroys motivation, it completely transforms me into somebody I'm not in general, and it derails me often for weeks or months at a time.

I much more prefer anger over sadness. I find anger to be a very motivating emotion and one in which I am able to more quickly overcome.


But either way, there has to be some reason we've evolved to feel these emotions. They must provide some benefit to our lives, no?


I find that when I read a book with tender moments in it, I'm filled with a certain reverse-sadness lol. What I mean by this is that I feel joy for the characters in the book, but only because I've experienced sadness as a result of the opposite conditions or outcomes the characters have gone through. Sure, I'd probably feel happy for them anyway--but the emotions are deeper, more gratifying, and intrinsic when it relates to something I myself went through but with bad results. Does this even make sense to yall crazy motherfuckers and hos?




Anyways, I would love to hear your take on it. Even those of you who hate me and whose hatred I absorb with amusement and a healthy dose of self-agrandizing smugness. hug



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[Edited 2/28/10 3:29am]



eek for some reason that makes me want to be your friend eek

I knew I shouldnt of come to GD


lol comfort too late now!!!!!
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