MidniteMagnet said:

someone should book them on "What Not To Wear"

Genesia said:

How do you know they don't rely on the government? (I didn't see a link to their personal finances in this thread...) Furthermore, they probably have a huge carbon footprint; not to mention all the garbage a family that size generates. The world is overpopulated as is, and there are thousands of kids in foster care that need families. Why not adopt instead of bring more kids into an already overpopulated world?


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jone70 said:

it's been well documented that the family doesn't receive or need any sort of govt. aid...people have been trying to find ways to disparage them for some time now and it hasn't happened yet...aside from personal opinions about their lifestyle, these folks aren't doing anything wrong...

lazycrockett said:

It's possible...I grew up knowing a family who had 25 kids. She was a stay at home Mom, who baby sat...me being one of them, and her husband worked for the railroad. All those kids were respectful, honest, good students etc...

So it really is possible to be a good parent with that many kids.

FauxReal said:

thejason said:

Thanks for the info; I don't follow them/their family. But regardless of their financial status, they must have a huge carbon footprint, and my question about choosing adoption instead of contributing to overpopulation is still valid. Not saying they're doing anything wrong (against the law) but I just don't get having 19 kids when there are THOUSANDS in foster care who would love to have a family.

they own rental properties and are very industrious- they seem to be very well educated and productive people who actually give back-- the children are home schooled and they are well traveled

more than I can say for some of my public aid sistahs waitn for the first of the month

saved me the necessity of using my own vajayjay to populate the earth, so thanks

DesireeNevermind said:

jone70 said:

How do you know they have a huge carbon footprint...or how much trash they generate? Regardless, the whole issue of "carbon footprint" is bullshit. Likewise, overpopulation.

People just need to mind their own business.

IAintTheOne said:

and this whole thread.

Especially "coochie clown car"...

Genesia said:

They put their business out their with a website talking about themselves. If they want people to MTOB, then perhaps a public website on the World Wide Web is not the best way to go.

Using basic math, one can calculate how much trash a family of that size generates, on average. (Averages are based on facts.) Regardless of whether you believe the world is overpopulated, it is a FACT there are thousands of children in orphanages and foster care that would benefit from the stability and security of a family, not to mention want to be adopted. Seeing as how you're often making anti-government program comments, I'd think you'd understand that point at least.

You make valid points in your posts (on this thread and elswhere), but in general, your delivery leaves a lot to be desired; and that's putting it politely.

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The real question is, "Who HASN'T heard of The Duggar Family". This family seems to take pride in having 19 kids. WTF are they thinking, seriously???? It's one thing to like kids, but to have that many just doesn't seem normal in any sense of the word.

Vendetta1 said:

Vendetta1 said:

The more I read about her, the weirder she became.

TonyVanDam said:

Either that, or a football squad.

MoniGram said:

25 kids? I can't imagine having that many kids.

let's face it, there are assholes out there that have nearly this many children by different mothers...sticking their dick into any warm hole and letting their people go wherever they please...but it's considered more of a comedy spectacle when you see these guys on tv...they hardly garner the comments I've seen here about the Duggars...

I just don't understand the overwhelming dislike for these people...from all accounts they're a tight group, caring, self sufficient and giving...all the things a family should be...

having 19 kids pop out of my wifes hoo-ha isn't my idea of a good time...but I see no sense in trashing good people because their lifestyle is different than mine...I actually admire them...while I certainly don't subscribe to their faith, it in no way affects me and from everything I've seen, they are genuinely good people and until it's shown otherwise, I have no reason to doubt that's how they really are...

jone70 said:

These people have a belief - and that belief is that birth control is contrary to God's law. What you are suggesting is that they violate their belief, go on birth control, and adopt children that other people (presumably people who think birth control is just dandy), were careless enough to have. Why is it their responsibility to do that? And why should they have to abandon their beliefs? How would you like it if someone tried to force you to abandon your misguided faith in global warming?

So what if they have a website? No one is forcing you to go there - or to read it. It's there for people who are interested.

And don't even get me started on the fact that many of the children you think should be adopted can't be - because the child protective services system in the United States is founded on the belief that children should be reunited with their birth parents whenever possible. No matter how awful those birth parents are. That is the real reason so many children languish in foster care. Not because people like the Duggars choose to have their own.

The Duggars are part of the Quiverfull movement. It pretty much means that you think God wants you to have as many babies as possible. I personally think that God would want people to adopt the babies that have no families instead of shitting out 19 of your own, but that's just me!


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Genesia said:

On their website, it states that the mother/wife actually was on birth control and became pregnant anyway (and miscarried). So they evidently aren't that against it.

Please point out where I stated in any of my posts that I believe in global warming? You can't because I didn't. (I've heard reading, and its comprehension, is fundamental.) I pointed out that, based on mathmatical averages, a family that large probably uses a lot of natural resources and generates a lot of trash. How you connected that to me having faith in global warming is beyond me. Please don't make tenuous assumptions...we all know what assuming does.



I don't care whether they have a website, but the fact that they have a public website nullifies your point about people minding their own business in relation to this family.



Again, did I say I think children SHOULD be adopted? No, I pointed out there are many children in orphanage that might benefit from having an adoptive family, or may want to be adopted and questioned why they wouldn't choose that option. But instead of acquiescing it's true (that there are many children in orphanages/foster care), you have chosen to ignore that and focus on why you believe children aren't adopted.

But at least you were consistent with your bitchy delivery!

I have no problem with them.

they all seem pretty happy and well adjusted.
they are independent and do not get any form of assistance
they were all conceived normally

and their carbon footprint (other than that very idea being stupid) is likely smaller than the average of that many random people.

as far as clown car: for all we know she my be the kegel world champ!

oh and the parents and adult kids are public figures so they have no claim to privacy. The kids on the other hand are just doing what they are told.

she needs to be the Kegel world champ for damn sure, otherwise her hooha is more like a 4 lane highway in both directions than a car.

I don't really think any person needs to be putting out a child (or sometimes 2) a year for decades. I vote for all to keep their eggs and sperm contained!

jone70 said:

Are you serious? The whole carbon footprint thing is a cornerstone of global warming orthodoxy. If you do know that, you're being disingenuous. If you don't, you need to do some homework.

jone70 said:

The fact that you questioned why they didn't do it suggests that you think they should. So, yes - you did say that (though not in so many words). I simply explained why that doesn't work in the real world.

I always think it's funny how people throw ad hominem around here. I haven't attacked you personally in any way. And yet, you feel free to attack me. Whatever.
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sonic said:

Yeah, but the older kids are parents instead of siblings to the younger ones. I try not to criticize too much how people raise their families, but that's just plain unfair IMO.

Also, think of the carbon footprint a family the size of 21 (and more!) will leave.

Genesia said:

Because their beliefs are ball sack crazy. Read up on the Quiverfull movement.

People like that belong in an in-patient psych ward, not out in the world breeding.

psychodelicide said:

They did...and now have many many grandbabies

meow85 said:

I don't need to read up on it - because I don't care. These people aren't hurting me in any way.

They hold jobs and take care of their own. That puts them one up on a lot of folks around here.