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Thread started 02/27/10 6:08pm

insatiable3

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Lady of the night VS. Porn industry? NSFW Possibly (your opinions please)

Ok so the other day I had a friend bring up a subject too me that was quite interesting.... She asked me what is the difference between being a Lady of the Night and Being a porn star? What she meant by that is Why is Prostitution Illegal And being a porn star legal ... She said people pay a lady of the night for there services and they both consent to casual sex. In the porn industry people are paid to have sex by other people and then more money is involved when people buy the production... So needless to say this turned into a good debate!

So what is your opinion ???? Why is one illegal and one legal when they are both being paid to perform sexual acts for one another...

I'll give my opinion later I wanna see what you people have to say... wink
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Reply #1 posted 02/27/10 6:12pm

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Perhaps it is easier to tax porn stars. With prostitution, it's hard to tell who fucks who. With porn and all the distribution that goes with it, it's easy to see if someone has been "gainfully employed".
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Reply #2 posted 02/27/10 6:16pm

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Porn Stars do go through tests and exams to make sure they are safe and clean of viruses or other things.

"Ladies of the Night" do not know if the person they are with is clean at all.

So in my opinion, I guess it is a lot riskier to be a prostitute than a porn star.
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Reply #3 posted 02/27/10 6:18pm

LeCram

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because they are hypocrite in the USA?
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Reply #4 posted 02/27/10 7:26pm

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Lemonduck said:

Porn Stars do go through tests and exams to make sure they are safe and clean of viruses or other things.

"Ladies of the Night" do not know if the person they are with is clean at all.

So in my opinion, I guess it is a lot riskier to be a prostitute than a porn star.


That just might be it thats what I thought too ... but then she responded there are virus that lay dormant for 10 yrs just because your checked doesnt mean you wont have anything show up later on
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Reply #5 posted 02/27/10 11:05pm

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LeCram said:

because they are hypocrite in the USA?


yeahthat
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Reply #6 posted 02/28/10 12:00am

TonyVanDam

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insatiable3 said:

Ok so the other day I had a friend bring up a subject too me that was quite interesting.... She asked me what is the difference between being a Lady of the Night and Being a porn star? What she meant by that is Why is Prostitution Illegal And being a porn star legal ... She said people pay a lady of the night for there services and they both consent to casual sex. In the porn industry people are paid to have sex by other people and then more money is involved when people buy the production... So needless to say this turned into a good debate!

So what is your opinion ???? Why is one illegal and one legal when they are both being paid to perform sexual acts for one another...

I'll give my opinion later I wanna see what you people have to say... wink
[Edited 2/27/10 20:55pm]


For better OR (much) worse, adult film actors/actresses are .....well, actors/actresses. This is the main reason why the adult film industry is legal.

And despite the fact that adult film making is legally in the USA, most of the American adult films are made only in California, Nevada, New York, & Florida most of the time.

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Reply #7 posted 02/28/10 12:07am

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Lemonduck said:

Porn Stars do go through tests and exams to make sure they are safe and clean of viruses or other things.

"Ladies of the Night" do not know if the person they are with is clean at all.

So in my opinion, I guess it is a lot riskier to be a prostitute than a porn star.


The people of Pink Cross would disagree with that.


http://thepinkcross.org/porn_stat_page

Porn Industry Statistics:

66% of porn performers have Herpes, a non-curable disease.

Chlamydia and Gonorrhea among performers is 10x greater than that of LA County 20-24 year olds.

70% of sexually transmitted infections in the porn industry occur in females.

75%-90% of porn performers are prostituted women.

20 suicides and 28 drug related deaths among performers that we know of since 2000.

Over 100 straight and gay performers died from AIDS.

The largest group viewing online pornography is ages 12 to 17.

More than 11 million teens regularly view porn online.

Worldwide pornography revenue in 2006 was $97.06 billion. Of that, approximately $13 billion was in the United States.

There are 4.2 million pornographic websites, 420 million pornographic web pages, and 68 million daily search engine requests.

27 porn performers have committed suicide since 1990.

Out of about 100 HIV positive porn performers, about 25 are living.

47 porn performers have died from drug overdose since 1990.

13 porn stars died from HIV, suicide, homicide and drug related deaths in 2007.

65 percent of high school students admit to unsafe, inappropriate, or illegal activities online.

Between 2003 and 2005, 976 performers were reported with 1,153 positive STD results.
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Reply #8 posted 02/28/10 12:24am

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TonyVanDam said:

Lemonduck said:

Porn Stars do go through tests and exams to make sure they are safe and clean of viruses or other things.

"Ladies of the Night" do not know if the person they are with is clean at all.

So in my opinion, I guess it is a lot riskier to be a prostitute than a porn star.


The people of Pink Cross would disagree with that.


http://thepinkcross.org/porn_stat_page

Porn Industry Statistics:

66% of porn performers have Herpes, a non-curable disease.

Chlamydia and Gonorrhea among performers is 10x greater than that of LA County 20-24 year olds.

70% of sexually transmitted infections in the porn industry occur in females.

75%-90% of porn performers are prostituted women.

20 suicides and 28 drug related deaths among performers that we know of since 2000.

Over 100 straight and gay performers died from AIDS.

The largest group viewing online pornography is ages 12 to 17.

More than 11 million teens regularly view porn online.

Worldwide pornography revenue in 2006 was $97.06 billion. Of that, approximately $13 billion was in the United States.

There are 4.2 million pornographic websites, 420 million pornographic web pages, and 68 million daily search engine requests.

27 porn performers have committed suicide since 1990.

Out of about 100 HIV positive porn performers, about 25 are living.

47 porn performers have died from drug overdose since 1990.

13 porn stars died from HIV, suicide, homicide and drug related deaths in 2007.

65 percent of high school students admit to unsafe, inappropriate, or illegal activities online.

Between 2003 and 2005, 976 performers were reported with 1,153 positive STD results.


mmm so that means porn actors schedule gigs around herpes breakouts?

So all that white cum we see is not really cum, but indeed chlamydia and gonorrhea discharge infection shit?

lol
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Reply #9 posted 02/28/10 12:25am

ZombieKitten

TonyVanDam said:

insatiable3 said:

Ok so the other day I had a friend bring up a subject too me that was quite interesting.... She asked me what is the difference between being a Lady of the Night and Being a porn star? What she meant by that is Why is Prostitution Illegal And being a porn star legal ... She said people pay a lady of the night for there services and they both consent to casual sex. In the porn industry people are paid to have sex by other people and then more money is involved when people buy the production... So needless to say this turned into a good debate!

So what is your opinion ???? Why is one illegal and one legal when they are both being paid to perform sexual acts for one another...

I'll give my opinion later I wanna see what you people have to say... wink


For better OR (much) worse, adult film actors/actresses are .....well, actors/actresses. This is the main reason why the adult film industry is legal.

And despite the fact that adult film making is legally in the USA, most of the American adult films are made only in California, Nevada, New York, & Florida most of the time.




like hookers aren't pretending they like sex confused
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Reply #10 posted 02/28/10 12:40am

TonyVanDam

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ZombieKitten said:

TonyVanDam said:



For better OR (much) worse, adult film actors/actresses are .....well, actors/actresses. This is the main reason why the adult film industry is legal.

And despite the fact that adult film making is legally in the USA, most of the American adult films are made only in California, Nevada, New York, & Florida most of the time.




like hookers aren't pretending they like sex confused


If we're talking about escorts (call girls), I think they can play the role of their client's girlfriend. That is part of the GFE (girlfriend experience).

But you couldn't compare THAT^ to adult film acting, could you?!?
lol
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Reply #11 posted 02/28/10 12:44am

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LaSeles said:

TonyVanDam said:



The people of Pink Cross would disagree with that.


http://thepinkcross.org/porn_stat_page

Porn Industry Statistics:

66% of porn performers have Herpes, a non-curable disease.

Chlamydia and Gonorrhea among performers is 10x greater than that of LA County 20-24 year olds.

70% of sexually transmitted infections in the porn industry occur in females.

75%-90% of porn performers are prostituted women.

20 suicides and 28 drug related deaths among performers that we know of since 2000.

Over 100 straight and gay performers died from AIDS.

The largest group viewing online pornography is ages 12 to 17.

More than 11 million teens regularly view porn online.

Worldwide pornography revenue in 2006 was $97.06 billion. Of that, approximately $13 billion was in the United States.

There are 4.2 million pornographic websites, 420 million pornographic web pages, and 68 million daily search engine requests.

27 porn performers have committed suicide since 1990.

Out of about 100 HIV positive porn performers, about 25 are living.

47 porn performers have died from drug overdose since 1990.

13 porn stars died from HIV, suicide, homicide and drug related deaths in 2007.

65 percent of high school students admit to unsafe, inappropriate, or illegal activities online.

Between 2003 and 2005, 976 performers were reported with 1,153 positive STD results.


mmm so that means porn actors schedule gigs around herpes breakouts?

So all that white cum we see is not really cum, but indeed chlamydia and gonorrhea discharge infection shit?

lol


That is sick just thinking about what you just said. feeling ill lol
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Reply #12 posted 02/28/10 12:49am

ZombieKitten

TonyVanDam said:

ZombieKitten said:




like hookers aren't pretending they like sex confused


If we're talking about escorts (call girls), I think they can play the role of their client's girlfriend. That is part of the GFE (girlfriend experience).

But you couldn't compare THAT^ to adult film acting, could you?!?
lol


I suppose a lot of them don't bother hiding their boredom or disdain for $20
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Reply #13 posted 02/28/10 1:46pm

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LaSeles said:

TonyVanDam said:



The people of Pink Cross would disagree with that.


http://thepinkcross.org/porn_stat_page

Porn Industry Statistics:

66% of porn performers have Herpes, a non-curable disease.

Chlamydia and Gonorrhea among performers is 10x greater than that of LA County 20-24 year olds.

70% of sexually transmitted infections in the porn industry occur in females.

75%-90% of porn performers are prostituted women.

20 suicides and 28 drug related deaths among performers that we know of since 2000.

Over 100 straight and gay performers died from AIDS.

The largest group viewing online pornography is ages 12 to 17.

More than 11 million teens regularly view porn online.

Worldwide pornography revenue in 2006 was $97.06 billion. Of that, approximately $13 billion was in the United States.

There are 4.2 million pornographic websites, 420 million pornographic web pages, and 68 million daily search engine requests.

27 porn performers have committed suicide since 1990.

Out of about 100 HIV positive porn performers, about 25 are living.

47 porn performers have died from drug overdose since 1990.

13 porn stars died from HIV, suicide, homicide and drug related deaths in 2007.

65 percent of high school students admit to unsafe, inappropriate, or illegal activities online.

Between 2003 and 2005, 976 performers were reported with 1,153 positive STD results.


mmm so that means porn actors schedule gigs around herpes breakouts?

So all that white cum we see is not really cum, but indeed chlamydia and gonorrhea discharge infection shit? lol



Lol I think I just threw up In my mouth a little bit! barf
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Reply #14 posted 02/28/10 2:58pm

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LaSeles said:

TonyVanDam said:



The people of Pink Cross would disagree with that.


http://thepinkcross.org/porn_stat_page

Porn Industry Statistics:

66% of porn performers have Herpes, a non-curable disease.

Chlamydia and Gonorrhea among performers is 10x greater than that of LA County 20-24 year olds.

70% of sexually transmitted infections in the porn industry occur in females.

75%-90% of porn performers are prostituted women.

20 suicides and 28 drug related deaths among performers that we know of since 2000.

Over 100 straight and gay performers died from AIDS.

The largest group viewing online pornography is ages 12 to 17.

More than 11 million teens regularly view porn online.

Worldwide pornography revenue in 2006 was $97.06 billion. Of that, approximately $13 billion was in the United States.

There are 4.2 million pornographic websites, 420 million pornographic web pages, and 68 million daily search engine requests.

27 porn performers have committed suicide since 1990.

Out of about 100 HIV positive porn performers, about 25 are living.

47 porn performers have died from drug overdose since 1990.

13 porn stars died from HIV, suicide, homicide and drug related deaths in 2007.

65 percent of high school students admit to unsafe, inappropriate, or illegal activities online.

Between 2003 and 2005, 976 performers were reported with 1,153 positive STD results.


mmm so that means porn actors schedule gigs around herpes breakouts?

So all that white cum we see is not really cum, but indeed chlamydia and gonorrhea discharge infection shit?

lol



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Reply #15 posted 02/28/10 2:59pm

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robertlove said:

LeCram said:

because they are hypocrite in the USA?


yeahthat




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Reply #16 posted 02/28/10 3:11pm

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Honestly i think the porn industry is legal and accepted because the profit margin is greater and it's deemed more private (something you watch at home) versus prostitution which has littered many neighborhoods. I mean porn doesn't bring more crime to a neighborhood or lower property values because it's something that is viewed and done out of the site of everyday people.

Also with regard to profit, think about video/dvd/internet viewing sales/porn awards held in Vegas etc which may bring added tourism., that's a lot of revenue. The fact that this is a billion dollar worldwide industry for folk of all ages, cultures and sexual orientations versus some trick ass hooker on the street or working for a madam/pimp just proves that it's all about the amount of money generated. A porn actress can make 7 figures in a year for only working a few months with only a few guys. A prostitute probably has to work all year with lord knows how many random guys and her pay is much less than that of the porn star. The hooker has no marketing/branding arrangement, does not get paid for promotional appearances, isn't selling her likeness for use by other entities, and doesn't have a contract stating what she will be paid and how many clients she will have nor does she have any assurance of a safe working environment. Honestly, if hookers/call girls had any sense they'd try and be porn stars and forget fucking some stranger they met on the street corner.

Really the only thing hookers and porn stars have in common is they make their money off of men and they give the money right back to men.
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Reply #17 posted 02/28/10 3:16pm

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Lemonduck said:

Porn Stars do go through tests and exams to make sure they are safe and clean of viruses or other things.

"Ladies of the Night" do not know if the person they are with is clean at all.

So in my opinion, I guess it is a lot riskier to be a prostitute than a porn star.



They've had some articles last year in the LA Times on porn industry and STD's. If I recall the aritlce stated that in the past 4/5 years 22 confirmed cases of actors/actress working in porn had beed diagnosed wth AIDS; not to speak of the shutdown of the whole industry in 05 because one of it's tops stars was diagnosed and I guess unbeknownst to him had contiuned to work until he found out.

LA Times said there seems not to be really no concrete rules or regulations in terms of testing and what was in place appeared to be voluntary.
It appears that most wowmen who work as prostitues are at least using condoms and depending on what "rung of the ladder" they work, testing. and exams or done. It appears to be in reverse who's doing what in terms of testing and safe sex pratices.
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Reply #18 posted 03/01/10 2:11am

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LeCram said:

because they are hypocrite in the USA?

There's your answer. nod
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Reply #19 posted 03/01/10 5:05am

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DesireeNevermind said:

Honestly i think the porn industry is legal and accepted because the profit margin is greater and it's deemed more private (something you watch at home) versus prostitution which has littered many neighborhoods. I mean porn doesn't bring more crime to a neighborhood or lower property values because it's something that is viewed and done out of the site of everyday people.

If prostituiton were legal it wouldn't bring crime anywhere. lol

I personally see no difference. Women would be much, much better off on a global level if prostitution were legal and therefore regulated everywhere.
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Reply #20 posted 03/01/10 6:04am

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They're both sex for hire, no difference between the two for me.
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CarrieMpls said:

DesireeNevermind said:

Honestly i think the porn industry is legal and accepted because the profit margin is greater and it's deemed more private (something you watch at home) versus prostitution which has littered many neighborhoods. I mean porn doesn't bring more crime to a neighborhood or lower property values because it's something that is viewed and done out of the site of everyday people.

If prostituiton were legal it wouldn't bring crime anywhere. lol

I personally see no difference. Women would be much, much better off on a global level if prostitution were legal and therefore regulated everywhere.



that's a good point. but would there still be a need for pimps? I think the pimps make it worse.
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Reply #22 posted 03/01/10 10:31am

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There is no difference.
The U.S. waste billions a year trying 2 police "morality".
It is a complete waste of tax payers money and the effort should be directed toward more important things.
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DesireeNevermind said:

CarrieMpls said:


If prostituiton were legal it wouldn't bring crime anywhere. lol

I personally see no difference. Women would be much, much better off on a global level if prostitution were legal and therefore regulated everywhere.



that's a good point. but would there still be a need for pimps? I think the pimps make it worse.


There could be pimps and madams both, and if they were unscrupulous the prostitute could report them to the police. Heck, the girls could unionize!
They’d have recourse for being treated poorly instead of being afraid of getting arrested.

It’s the main reason why I think it’s necessary for it to be legal. For the safety and wellbeing of the women.
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Speaking of policing morality. Who tends to get locked up more often, the johns or the hookers? If hooking were legal wouldn't more married men get caught and more women remain single since a man could just pay for sex and not have to worry about relationships and emotional attachments? Not to say that all men want from women is sex but it would be interesting to see the shift (if any) in the state of female/male relations especially in the US where so many tout our country's ability to thrive as being in direct proportion to the family and religous foundation. Also, I wonder if females would have any desire for intellectual pursuits if they knew they could just get paid a shit load of cash for opening their legs.


Yes....I have little faith in women and men. sigh
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DesireeNevermind said:

Speaking of policing morality. Who tends to get locked up more often, the johns or the hookers? If hooking were legal wouldn't more married men get caught and more women remain single since a man could just pay for sex and not have to worry about relationships and emotional attachments? Not to say that all men want from women is sex but it would be interesting to see the shift (if any) in the state of female/male relations especially in the US where so many tout our country's ability to thrive as being in direct proportion to the family and religous foundation. Also, I wonder if females would have any desire for intellectual pursuits if they knew they could just get paid a shit load of cash for opening their legs.


Yes....I have little faith in women and men. sigh


Really? You think if it were legal more women would choose that over other pursuits?

I would think the work itself would be so undesirable to most women that it would attract the same amount as it does today – i.e. the few who may truly enjoy that line of work, the group that enjoys the money enough to put up with it and the truly desperate (addicts, homeless, etc.).

You don't see an explosion of young women wanting to go into porn because it's legal, do you?
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CarrieMpls said:

DesireeNevermind said:

Speaking of policing morality. Who tends to get locked up more often, the johns or the hookers? If hooking were legal wouldn't more married men get caught and more women remain single since a man could just pay for sex and not have to worry about relationships and emotional attachments? Not to say that all men want from women is sex but it would be interesting to see the shift (if any) in the state of female/male relations especially in the US where so many tout our country's ability to thrive as being in direct proportion to the family and religous foundation. Also, I wonder if females would have any desire for intellectual pursuits if they knew they could just get paid a shit load of cash for opening their legs.


Yes....I have little faith in women and men. sigh


Really? You think if it were legal more women would choose that over other pursuits?

I would think the work itself would be so undesirable to most women that it would attract the same amount as it does today – i.e. the few who may truly enjoy that line of work, the group that enjoys the money enough to put up with it and the truly desperate (addicts, homeless, etc.).

You don't see an explosion of young women wanting to go into porn because it's legal, do you?



I'd like to think that were true but I'm a bit pessimistic when it comes to women today. Maybe because I've always lived in big cities I've just seem some troll ass bitches. lol

Perhaps porn these days is so hardcore that maybe that's the only reason more women don't willingly go for it.shrug On the other hand I saw an interview with Jenna Jamison, retired porn star, who stated she had an increasing following among young women and that being a porn star is now popular. Also aren't there are more strip clubs today than there were 10 years ago? Doesn't that equate to more and more women getting on the pole? If you can take your clothes off for money and simulate sex then why wouldn't more women become hookers if it was done in a safe and regulated environment and they didn't have to work too hard or too often but could still make a profit? I'm not saying an explosion but I'd bet money if prostitution were legal and less demoralized there would be more women going for it.
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Reply #27 posted 03/01/10 11:14am

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There is no real difference in theory, but to me there is a big difference if you are a somewhat attractive & intelligent porn star who gets to choose who he/she has sex with and is not out there standing on a street corner having multiple partners in a single night, one after the other.

But that's also the difference with a high class hooker & streetwalker.

So I don't see the difference. It's getting paid to have sex with people. Furthermore I don't see how lap dances are not prostitution.
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Reply #28 posted 03/01/10 11:17am

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NDRU said:

There is no real difference in theory, but to me there is a big difference if you are a somewhat attractive & intelligent porn star who gets to choose who he/she has sex with and is not out there standing on a street corner having multiple partners in a single night, one after the other.

But that's also the difference with a high class hooker & streetwalker.

So I don't see the difference. It's getting paid to have sex with people. Furthermore I don't see how lap dances are not prostitution.



Yeah since sometimes those guys blow their load in their pants. hmmm You are getting paid for dry humping essentially.
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Reply #29 posted 03/01/10 11:25am

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CarrieMpls said:

DesireeNevermind said:

Honestly i think the porn industry is legal and accepted because the profit margin is greater and it's deemed more private (something you watch at home) versus prostitution which has littered many neighborhoods. I mean porn doesn't bring more crime to a neighborhood or lower property values because it's something that is viewed and done out of the site of everyday people.

If prostituiton were legal it wouldn't bring crime anywhere. lol

I personally see no difference. Women would be much, much better off on a global level if prostitution were legal and therefore regulated everywhere.


ding! agreed. smile
"not a fan" falloff yeah...ok
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