AzureStar said:

I dont think its on dvd..

rdhull said:

It's not... only VHS, I just checked.


The Rose (1979)



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AzureStar said:

I dont think its on dvd..[/quote]

It's not... only VHS, I just checked.

The Rose (1979)

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sawatdiikhrap said:

What do I love??...Freedom, nature, art (especially art)...Who do I love??...Freespirit (beyond words) , family, friends... ...I have certain family members who, right now, are needing the feel of my love more than ever, and I have been gladly giving it to them... ...It takes time and energy, and requires me to be away from places like P.org, and the internet in general, more than I have been in the past, but it's a very small price to pay...

I also celebrate the love of others, there's no reason not to... I don't just celebrate what I personally feel, but the celebration that love exists and can be felt at all...by anyone, anywhere, at any time...romantic, friendly, platonic, family...they're all important...

Love is like a rollercoaster...You never know what the next loop is gonna be like..

And yes the feeling is grand..It takes so much to keep it alive.

AzureStar said:

Damn, I've posted a few of those around here in the past. Gotta catch myself.

wellbeyond said:

Nicely put. I like your way of thinking.

Nice to meet u wellbeyond.

WB, I am sorry to hear that things are tough...My prayers are with you and your family.

sag10 said:

In my experience, I've found that the most satisfying and fulfilling relationships actually didn't take too much to keep alive...everything just seemed natural and effortless, on both people's parts...there was never a feeling of "I better do 'this', or else they may not love me anymore..."...I've known family members who've done that (luckily, none that were immediate family members)...I've known friends who've done that, and I've known lovers who've done that...when it gets to that point, you risk the chance of appearing "needy" instead of appreciative, where the relationship starts to become "high maintenance" instead of effortless...and the best relationships of any kind always contain a healthy amount of effortless appreciation...

sawatdiikhrap said:

Nice to meet you, too...

sag10 said:

Thank you, Sag......I mean that...

wellbeyond said:

I know you do! If you need an ear or love I am here for you!

sag10 said:

I agree with you, sag! So many marriage/relationship counselors I talk to say one of the biggest pitfalls they see in the couples they treat is the thinking that love alone will get them through everything. (I suppose this can be applied to any close relationship, really) It then can become a situation where communication falls by the wayside, and each person begins to do things--or NOT do things--that causes irritation or are generally inconsiderate. (Not necessarily intentionally) They start taking the other person for granted. In fact, I always say that we usually tend to treat our familes worse than we'd treat a total stranger, cause we know they're "stuck" with us! Nevertheless, if the willingness to deal with the issues isn't there--the love won't automatically get them through it. Sag, your situation is a perfect example of this, isn't it?

I guess it depends on a person's definition of "so much"? To me, communication and doing little things that show you care, are effortless and natural.

Well, I'm in love right now, but its driving me batty. I already told my story on the "one that got away' thread, so I won't repeat it here. In a nutshell, I'm rekindling an old romance from my high school days (the first girl I ever truly loved). We're taking it slow, because I really don't want to scare her off. As a result, I'm having to hide how I really feel. I've discovered that an unrequited love can re-ignite quickly, no matter how long it has been since you dated.

I'm really happy right now, but I'm also scared out of my wits. I'm being given a second chance with this girl, and I don't want to blow it! Thus, love is something of an agonising condition for me! Its the whole not knowing thing, y'know? Arrrgh!!!

(edit: I've already said this in one form or another, so never mind )
[This message was edited Sun Jan 19 2:40:01 PST 2003 by AnotherLover2]

Isn't it funny how sometimes in certain relationships etc there is that significant moment that stands out when it is/was the first time you ever said "I love you" to the other? You know its coming out and yet it scares you to utter it because at that moment its "on baby" and you almost choke back the words but it flows out and theres that moment you both look at each after it has ben said and you know you aren't in Kansas anymore lol.

Imagine:

To my friend, "A", I give my time and energy to freely, so they never appear to be "needy" or seen as anything other than effortless. And, all the while my friend "B" gets only what is left of my free time, I am telling myself that friend "B' is "high maintenance" for "trying" to be my friend. Needy? What is really going on - (in my mind - and should be) - is that I have much to learn about friendship and/or relationships.

And, honesty.

Yes, sawatdiikhrap, it is.

laisydaisy said:

laisydaisy said:

Huh?...lol...I only say that cuz I assume you're referring to my post...lol

If "friend 'B'" in your scenario seems needy, most likely it's not simply because they're "trying" to be a friend...but because of how they're trying to be a friend...a friend is understanding, supportive and accepting...how in the world could that be misconstrued as being "needy"??...

The thing to remember, though, is that terms like "needy" and "high maintenance" are perceptions...that's why I said someone could "appear" to be needy or high maintenance if they are telling someone how they need that person to be in order to recieve their love or friendship...

I want to tell you a story...

I have recently had a massive realisation. I have gone from obsessing about my boyfriend, ie. thinking about what he may be thinking, thinking about what he may be feeling, anxious and panicking about not seeing or hearing from him, or that I am going to be abandoned to something else.

Something simple.

Self trust.

From this position, I trust my own feelings and thoughts. I focus on myself and I am able to love, give space, time and energy to my boyfriend.

The important thing here, is that I am able to give rather than waiting to receive.

I have achieved this through many years of therapy, looking at, thinking about, feeling all sorts, about my original wound... being abandoned from my Father.

I've had snippets of time over the years of feeling self sufficient and giving... Since seeing my therapist for nearly a year, I have developed a deep self trust and understanding and love and compassion, kindness that I can give... oh man...

I feel free of the relationship patterns that have bound me, because the trust in another process has grown to a point where it is with me more and more and more.

I like what you said Wellbeyond



And feeling that way, feels so healthy...so right.

Absolutely, Therapy--and great story/point!
[This message was edited Sun Jan 19 21:01:45 PST 2003 by AnotherLover2]

I am so in love right now. So in love. Today is our two month anniversary, though I've been in love with him for a good four months. He's brought so much to my life, and given me faith in a lot of things that I had lost in the course of my last relationship. At first I was frightened to get back into something, but now I couldn't imagine not being with him.