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Reply #60 posted 02/26/10 10:47am

Evvy

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TheVoid said:

Evvy said:




wow biggrin if you had a pitbull that was never aggressive toward you or your kids- would you tell people "aww he won't bite"? biggrin


That's such a stupid comeback. lol

Really, now you're reaching.

I wouldn't place him in a cage and forced to do circus tricks day after day and put a kid in the cage... that's for sure.



call it stupid if you want- something that weighs a half tons with jaws of death - he may not be interested in human meat- but I don't see you throwing yourself in the water.....
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Reply #61 posted 02/26/10 10:52am

TheVoid

Evvy said:

TheVoid said:



That's such a stupid comeback. lol

Really, now you're reaching.

I wouldn't place him in a cage and forced to do circus tricks day after day and put a kid in the cage... that's for sure.



call it stupid if you want- something that weighs a half tons with jaws of death - he may not be interested in human meat- but I don't see you throwing yourself in the water.....


To quote you: orcas are not know for aattacking humans period. - Evvy
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Reply #62 posted 02/26/10 10:55am

TheVoid

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Evvy said:

whales are cetaceans
Main Entry: ce·ta·cean
Pronunciation: \si-ˈtā-shən\
Function: noun
Etymology: ultimately from Latin cetus whale, from Greek kētos
Date: 1835
: any of an order (Cetacea) of aquatic mostly marine mammals that includes the whales, dolphins, porpoises, and related forms and that have a torpedo-shaped nearly hairless body, paddle-shaped forelimbs but no hind limbs, one or two nares opening externally at the top of the head, and a horizontally flattened tail used for locomotion

— cetacean adjective



dolphins are whales
Main Entry: dol·phin
Pronunciation: \ˈdäl-fən, ˈdȯl-\
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English delphyn, dolphyn, from Anglo-French delphin, alteration of Old French dalfin, from Medieval Latin dalfinus, alteration of Latin delphinus, from Greek delphin-, delphis; akin to Greek delphys womb, Sanskrit garbha
Date: 14th century
1 a (1) : any of various small marine toothed whales (family Delphinidae) with the snout more or less elongated into a beak and the neck vertebrae partially fused (2) : any of several related chiefly freshwater toothed whales (as of the family Platanistidae) b : porpoise 1

orcas are whales- killer whales


That is like you and I arguing over a Toyota RAV4 and me saying "It's a RAV4" and then you arguing that it isn't, "It's a Toyota"

By definition all dolphins are whales but not all whales are dolphins. The more precise family is that of the Delphinidae family.

So if one wishes to be general then yes, use whales or Toyota, if one wishes to be precise use dolphin or rav4.
lol


I get the feeling she'll just keep rattling off generalizations and unproven statements until she's blue in the face, but it's still not relevant to the fact that these animals should NOT be in captivity. lol

They just shouldn't. nod
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Reply #63 posted 02/26/10 11:04am

Evvy

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davidoff1966 said:



That is like you and I arguing over a Toyota RAV4 and me saying "It's a RAV4" and then you arguing that it isn't, "It's a Toyota"

By definition all dolphins are whales but not all whales are dolphins. The more precise family is that of the Delphinidae family.

So if one wishes to be general then yes, use whales or Toyota, if one wishes to be precise use dolphin or rav4.
lol


I get the feeling she'll just keep rattling off generalizations and unproven statements until she's blue in the face, but it's still not relevant to the fact that these animals should NOT be in captivity. lol

They just shouldn't. nod


no .....but what I will do is keep renewing my membership to the John G. Shedd aquarium and oceanarium and supporting their aquatic science efforts.

the second they stop having the white sided dolphins and beluga whales- thats when ill stop supporting them
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Reply #64 posted 02/26/10 11:08am

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Evvy said:

TheVoid said:



I get the feeling she'll just keep rattling off generalizations and unproven statements until she's blue in the face, but it's still not relevant to the fact that these animals should NOT be in captivity. lol

They just shouldn't. nod


no .....but what I will do is keep renewing my membership to the John G. Shedd aquarium and oceanarium and supporting their aquatic science efforts.

the second they stop having the white sided dolphins and beluga whales- thats when ill stop supporting them



ok, thanks.
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Reply #65 posted 02/26/10 11:08am

TheVoid

Now does anyone have any accurate or useful information to post?
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Reply #66 posted 02/26/10 11:13am

davidoff1966

Evvy said:

TheVoid said:



I get the feeling she'll just keep rattling off generalizations and unproven statements until she's blue in the face, but it's still not relevant to the fact that these animals should NOT be in captivity. lol

They just shouldn't. nod


no .....but what I will do is keep renewing my membership to the John G. Shedd aquarium and oceanarium and supporting their aquatic science efforts.

the second they stop having the white sided dolphins and beluga whales- thats when ill stop supporting them


So basically when there stops being something in it for you, you will stop supporting.
Got it neutral
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Reply #67 posted 02/26/10 11:16am

davidoff1966

Evvy said:

TheVoid said:



I get the feeling she'll just keep rattling off generalizations and unproven statements until she's blue in the face, but it's still not relevant to the fact that these animals should NOT be in captivity. lol

They just shouldn't. nod


no .....but what I will do is keep renewing my membership to the John G. Shedd aquarium and oceanarium and supporting their aquatic science efforts.

the second they stop having the white sided dolphins and beluga whales- thats when ill stop supporting them


Oh and while we are at it, why are you referring to them as "white sided dolphins" when any idiot knows that ALL DOLPHINS by definition are actually whales. Dolphin is the family not the genus.

If you make a rule, at lease stick to it rolleyes
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Reply #68 posted 02/26/10 11:18am

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falloff

gotta love the media trying to analyze this situation. "what happened" "what's the reason" "could this have been avoided?"

let's see... whale.... human. WHALE..... HUMAN. no matter what 'research' or 'training' you've done; it doesn't, or shouldn't take that much to figure out if something goes "wrong", you (the human) are more than likely going to lose. 99.9% of the time. and from what i'm understanding it wasn't an ATTACK. it grabbed her ponytail. maybe he thought it was a fish or something. because if/when whales attack it ATTACKS and there's no questioning it.
you are in the WATER...who's house? the WHALE'S house!

saving animals, doing research, all that aside. someone lost their life. eventhough she lost it doing what she loved. but if someone asked me to get in a tank with a whale 1000x bigger than me with sharp teeth, or go play with an elephant, or clean the lion's den...my answer will be the same. fuck that!
i LOVE animals. but i'm not trying to frolick with with Simba or in this case Free Willy.

disbelief




pray to her family. doverose
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Reply #69 posted 02/26/10 11:37am

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Now does anyone have any accurate or useful information to post?



can't we all just get along????? biggrin

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Reply #70 posted 02/26/10 11:59am

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XxAxX said:

TheVoid said:

Now does anyone have any accurate or useful information to post?



can't we all just get along????? biggrin




I knew Pammy was a freak but dddaaaaammmmnnnnn!!!!!
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Reply #71 posted 02/26/10 12:12pm

Evvy

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davidoff1966 said:

Evvy said:



no .....but what I will do is keep renewing my membership to the John G. Shedd aquarium and oceanarium and supporting their aquatic science efforts.

the second they stop having the white sided dolphins and beluga whales- thats when ill stop supporting them


Oh and while we are at it, why are you referring to them as "white sided dolphins" when any idiot knows that ALL DOLPHINS by definition are actually whales. Dolphin is the family not the genus.

If you make a rule, at lease stick to it rolleyes



you just mad cause you didnt know that dolphins are whales..
hug itll be ok
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Reply #72 posted 02/26/10 12:15pm

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Evvy said:

davidoff1966 said:



Oh and while we are at it, why are you referring to them as "white sided dolphins" when any idiot knows that ALL DOLPHINS by definition are actually whales. Dolphin is the family not the genus.

If you make a rule, at lease stick to it rolleyes



you just mad cause you didnt know that dolphins are whales..
hug itll be ok


No, I was correct and you were using a general term.

I was specific, you were broad.

My comment above is actually correct and your lack of consistency shows a distinct lack of understanding.
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Reply #73 posted 02/26/10 12:21pm

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DesireeNevermind said:

XxAxX said:




can't we all just get along????? biggrin




I knew Pammy was a freak but dddaaaaammmmnnnnn!!!!!


Appropriate trivia for the day: "dork" means "whale penis"
By St. Boogar and all the saints at the backside door of Purgatory!
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Reply #74 posted 02/26/10 1:36pm

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no lie. saw a headline that read...

"WHY DID KILLER WHALE KILL TRAINER?"

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Reply #75 posted 02/26/10 1:41pm

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davidoff1966 said:

Evvy said:




you just mad cause you didnt know that dolphins are whales..
hug itll be ok


No, I was correct and you were using a general term.

I was specific, you were broad.

My comment above is actually correct and your lack of consistency shows a distinct lack of understanding.



honestly- whatever- someone said that orcas are dolphins- I said no they are whales- someone said they don't kill humans- I agreed- but- I also challenged void to jump in the water with one- you know the "killer" non "killer whale"

you said I was being vague....I think that I got right to the point with full understanding-

-but we can agree to disagree
[Edited 2/26/10 13:42pm]
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Reply #76 posted 02/26/10 1:45pm

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Killa Whale MC on da mic
Ima be a bitch ORCA 2nite
Muthafuggas tryna train me
But I aint one to claim see

Drag Yo Pony Tail Weave
Aw bitch you tryna breathe?



Killa Whale MC do it RIGHT!!




that will be $2.50
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Reply #77 posted 02/26/10 1:51pm

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DesireeNevermind said:

Killa Whale MC on da mic
Ima be a bitch ORCA 2nite
Muthafuggas tryna train me
But I aint one to claim see

Drag Yo Pony Tail Weave
Aw bitch you tryna breathe?



Killa Whale MC do it RIGHT!!



that will be $2.50

Fool, you take checks??? cuz I just faint
[Edited 2/26/10 13:52pm]
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Reply #78 posted 02/26/10 1:55pm

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SCNDLS said:

DesireeNevermind said:

Killa Whale MC on da mic
Ima be a bitch ORCA 2nite
Muthafuggas tryna train me
But I aint one to claim see

Drag Yo Pony Tail Weave
Aw bitch you tryna breathe?



Killa Whale MC do it RIGHT!!



that will be $2.50

Fool, you take checks??? cuz I just faint
[Edited 2/26/10 13:52pm]



giggle I need to start making some mix tapes and shit. If Miley can rap...shit my ass can rap too.
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Reply #79 posted 02/26/10 1:58pm

davidoff1966

Evvy said:

davidoff1966 said:



No, I was correct and you were using a general term.

I was specific, you were broad.

My comment above is actually correct and your lack of consistency shows a distinct lack of understanding.



honestly- whatever- someone said that orcas are dolphins- I said no they are whales- someone said they don't kill humans- I agreed- but- I also challenged void to jump in the water with one- you know the "killer" non "killer whale"

you said I was being vague....I think that I got right to the point with full understanding-

-but we can agree to disagree
[Edited 2/26/10 13:42pm]



The part I bolded, that is where you messed up. In order to remain correct you should have said "yes, they are dolphins but they are also whales". That would have meant you had the high ground and were also correct.
The moment you said NO you actually became dead wrong on the subject. As we have shown Orcas can generally be described as whales (genus) and more specifically dolphin (family) so your statement of NO was uterrly incorrect.

As far as your assertion as to the "killer" part, I am pretty sure that there are many creatures you would not get in the water with when someone like me would have no issues doing such. It all comes down to the type of person you are.
Perhaps if you focused on researching the creature instead of focusing on the dangerous name you would understand them more.
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Reply #80 posted 02/26/10 2:00pm

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DesireeNevermind said:

Killa Whale MC on da mic
Ima be a bitch ORCA 2nite
Muthafuggas tryna train me
But I aint one to claim see

Drag Yo Pony Tail Weave
Aw bitch you tryna breathe?



Killa Whale MC do it RIGHT!!




that will be $2.50

twocents x 125
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Reply #81 posted 02/26/10 2:01pm

DesireeNevermi
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this thread needs a chill pill
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Reply #82 posted 02/26/10 2:02pm

DesireeNevermi
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FauxReal said:

DesireeNevermind said:

Killa Whale MC on da mic
Ima be a bitch ORCA 2nite
Muthafuggas tryna train me
But I aint one to claim see

Drag Yo Pony Tail Weave
Aw bitch you tryna breathe?



Killa Whale MC do it RIGHT!!




that will be $2.50

twocents x 125



what? I don't get a tip? lol
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Reply #83 posted 02/26/10 3:18pm

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DesireeNevermind said:

FauxReal said:


twocents x 125



what? I don't get a tip? lol



Sure

http://prince.org/msg/100/331014
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Reply #84 posted 02/26/10 3:27pm

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FauxReal said:

DesireeNevermind said:




what? I don't get a tip? lol



Sure

http://prince.org/msg/100/331014




Ok you are so wrong for that.



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Reply #85 posted 02/26/10 4:39pm

XxAxX

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DesireeNevermind said:

Killa Whale MC on da mic
Ima be a bitch ORCA 2nite
Muthafuggas tryna train me
But I aint one to claim see

Drag Yo Pony Tail Weave
Aw bitch you tryna breathe?



Killa Whale MC do it RIGHT!!






that will be $2.50


spit :excellent:

$2.50 edit nod
[Edited 2/26/10 16:39pm]
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Reply #86 posted 02/26/10 4:52pm

XxAxX

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wtf??? eek biggrin you have not seen the shows, if this is what you think. they are doing tricks. absolutely

Been to seaworld many times,,kids love shamu...these whales are very intelligent and well taken care of and are great performers.



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Reply #87 posted 02/26/10 5:09pm

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neutral I guess no one bothered to read my post... but a bit of info..
Orcas are called killer whales because they hunt in pods to take down humpback whale mother/child pairs on their way north. They work together to separate mother and calf in order to eat the calf. They have been known to hunt down and kill full grown whales as well.

ok... carry on. geek
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Reply #88 posted 02/26/10 5:21pm

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http://www3.canisius.edu/...s/orca.htm

okay. they live as long as we do, some are travelers, others not, they are highly social, at the top of their food chain.

let's just say i have no desire to go in an orca tank. ever.
eek
Common Name: Killer Whale or Orca
Class: Mammalia
Order: Cetacea
Suborder: Odontoceti
Family: Delphinidae
Genus: Orcinus
Species: Orcinus orca
Taxonomy/Description

Orcas belong to the Mammalian Order Cetacea, in the suborder Odontoceti. All toothed whales belong to the suborder Odontoceti, which is Latin for "toothed whales". The orca is the largest member of the oceanic dolphin family, Delphinidae. Other members of this family include the bottlenose dolphin, long-beaked common dolphin, and pilot whale. The orca's scientific name is Orcinus orca, which means "whale-like whale".

Killer whales are black with white eye patches, white side patches, and a white underbelly. A gray patch posterior to the dorsal fin is called the "saddle patch". Males are larger than females, exceeding lengths of 30ft and weights of 8-9 tons. Females usually attain lengths of about 20ft, and weights of four tons. Adult males are also distinguished from females and juvenile males by their very large dorsal fins. Females and young whales have curved dorsal fins, usually no taller than three feet. Adult males however, have six foot tall, triangular dorsal fins. These dorsal fins are the largest of all whales.
Habitat/Diet

The intelligence of orcas is widely known. Marine parks throughout the world display killer whales as main attractions. Orcas perform a wide variety of learned behaviors in marine shows. Such playful interactions between orcas and humans has lead to the misconception that orcas are gentle animals of the ocean. Killer whales are appropriately named. They fiercely attack prey in cooperative hunting groups, feeding on a wide variety of prey.

Orcas are found in all oceans of the world. Such a wide distribution implies a varied diet. Killer whales feed on a large variety of marine animals. Thirty fish species, including salmon, herring, and shark species are hunted. Even the largest shark, the whale shark, falls prey to the orca. Five seal species, seven seabird species, sea lions, penguins, squid, sea otters, and sea turtles are common prey. Larger aquatic mammals, like dugongs are also hunted. Fascinatingly, 24 different species of cetacean are hunted by orcas. Dall's porpoise isn't even fast enough to escape the orca. The enormous size of baleen whales is not a deterrent either. In fact, orcas seem to enjoy the baleen whale tongue. After slowing down a much larger baleen whale by biting its fins and flukes, a killer whale pod will devour the tongue. Eating to their fill, the orcas then leave the remainder of the carcass. Successful attacks on sperm whales, the largest species of toothed whale have been documented. Their wide distribution, variety of prey, group hunting technique, and aggressive hunting tactics have given rise to the nickname "wolves of the sea".

Behavior/Reproduction

Distinct populations of wild orcas exist. This has lead to the development of characteristic vocal dialects and hunting techniques within populations. While geographical location has a large part in the prey species an orca may hunt, some orca pods in the same region hunt different animals. For example, two types of orcas live in the waters of the North American Pacific Northwest. One type feeds primarily on fish species, mainly the Pacific salmon. These killer whales are called "resident" orcas. They do not travel far from this region, remaining there to feed on the continuous supply of local fish. The second type of orca in this area feeds primarily on other marine mammals. Harbor seals, gray whale, and harbor porpoise are just a few potential prey species. These killer whales travel along the coast of North America, tapping a variety of different food sources. The cause of differentiation between orca pods, and their relationships with one another are still unknown. Incidentally, a third type of orca pod occasionally visits the Pacific Northwest. Researchers refer to these pods as "offshore" orcas. Little is known about where, what, or how they hunt, but it is assumed they have different techniques from the resident and transient orcas.

The social structure of such pods differs as well. Resident orca pods are matrilineal and very stable. Orcas in these pods remain with their mothers their entire lives. Transient pods are more fluid, with mother and calf pairs entering and leaving pods. The structure of offshore pods is currently being studied. The year round presence of calves leads scientists to believe that orcas may breed all year. After a gestation period of 16 months, a female orca gives birth to a single calf. The calf is about six feet long, weighing 300-400lbs. The calf will remain with its mother for 3-7 years. A single female gives birth about every 8 years. Females become sexually mature at 9-12 years of age. Males reach sexual maturity at 13-16 years. Male puberty is characterized by the growth of pectoral and dorsal fins. Called "sprouting", the male's juvenile curved dorsal fin grows much larger and straighter. His pectoral fins also become larger. Females live longer than males, aging 80 years. Males live well into their fifties.

Conservation

The global population of orcas is unknown. It is estimated by some to be at least 100,000. They have no natural predators. Whalers did not hunt orcas as thoroughly as other whale species. Orcas rely on fish directly, as their primary food source, or indirectly, eating marine mammals that feed primarily on fish. Overfishing is therefore a threat to orcas. Less available food resources will result in less orcas. Water pollutants are dangerous to all cetaceans, the orca being no exception. A decrease in water pollution and commercial fishing aid in killer whale conservation.
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Reply #89 posted 02/26/10 5:23pm

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i keep looking at this thread and seeing
'Orlando SeaWorld worker killed by whistle'

i didn't do it! innocent
everyone's a fruit & nut case
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