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TheVoid

The Space WITHOUT & the Space WITHIN is Emptiness.



The scale of the Solar has never, ever, …. ever been accurately portrayed in any science book, museum, or display…ever.

It is simply impossible to fit it into any book, museum, or for that matter any indoor facility built or conceived whatsoever. Just impossible. All the books you’ve ever seen could never in a million years convey the enormity and emptiness of the solar system. Even the numbers which are given to us with regards to the boundless distances voyager 1 and voyager II have traveled are completely meaningless and impossible, no matter how hard we try, for us to accurately picture---it is just simply an impoosible task.
http://www.phrenopolis.co...larsystem/
This website (above) attempts to show you the scale of the Solar system, with the sun shrunken down to approximately 6 inches in diameter (keep in mind that the earth is 8,000 miles wide while the sun is over 100,000 miles wide!). If we shrunk our 100,000 mile wide sun down to the size to a 6 inch diameter ball, Pluto (the planet that we are currently sending a satellite to) would be a half a mile distant! The true edge of the solar system would be at least a 1,000 kilometers away, and the nearest star, in Alpha Centary, would be over 2,000 kilometers away!
Given what we know about Einstein’s theory of relativity, and current and near-future technologies involving propulsion, there is no way man will ever reach the edge of our own solar system… It is just too far away.
Space, as Bill Bryson puts it in his eloquent and absorbing book, A Brief History of Nearly Everything is just enormous. … just ENORMOUS.

But let’s look at something even more staggering, shall we? Let’s blow up the nucleus of an atom to the size of the sun model (6 inches in diameter). Keep in mind that if you took a single strand of hair, according to Mr. Bryson again, and sliced it into a thousand pieces, then you took one of those tiny, tiny, tiny pieces and sliced it into 10,000 smaller pieces, you’d come close to the size of an atom. It is just too small to imagine accurately. Thus if you blew the nucleus of the atom up to about 6 inches in diameter (the size of the sun in this model), and keeping mind that Pluto would be a half mile away, if Pluto in this case were an electron circling the atom, it would need 100 times more distance and space. The space inside an atom, compared to the individual components, is just enormous. It’s beyond fathoming, really.
Everything you see around you is 99.99999 (taken out several hundred spaces) empty space—the solid nature of things is an illusion and due to a force within the atom itself—not due to the matter within the atom. Even a solid block of lead, at an atomic level is almost entirely empty space….far more in scale than the space contained within our own solar system!

The point I’m trying to make here, is that if you looked at the smartest of us orgers, say Lammastide or TheAudience…or even 2the9s, then you’d realize that their heads are nothing but completely empty space…. Completely void of any substantial matter….

That’s all I’m sayin’


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Reply #1 posted 02/24/10 8:07am

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I've reached in darkness and come out with treasure
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Whats it all worth only the heart can measure
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Reply #2 posted 02/24/10 8:20am

MrsMdiver

So THAT is why you are TheVoid
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Reply #3 posted 02/24/10 8:33am

MacDaddy

What's up with Uranus?
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Reply #4 posted 02/24/10 8:41am

ernestsewell

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What's up with Uranus?

I was just going to ask YOU that.
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Reply #5 posted 02/24/10 8:42am

TheVoid

Well, so much for the science lol



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Reply #6 posted 02/24/10 9:02am

RodeoSchro

Is there a cooler planet than Saturn?

Seriously. It's just so cocky, what with its rings and all.
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Reply #7 posted 02/24/10 9:29am

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right on, man! stoned weed

TheVoid said:



The scale of the Solar has never, ever, …. ever been accurately portrayed in any science book, museum, or display…ever.

It is simply impossible to fit it into any book, museum, or for that matter any indoor facility built or conceived whatsoever. Just impossible. All the books you’ve ever seen could never in a million years convey the enormity and emptiness of the solar system. Even the numbers which are given to us with regards to the boundless distances voyager 1 and voyager II have traveled are completely meaningless and impossible, no matter how hard we try, for us to accurately picture---it is just simply an impoosible task.
http://www.phrenopolis.co...larsystem/
This website (above) attempts to show you the scale of the Solar system, with the sun shrunken down to approximately 6 inches in diameter (keep in mind that the earth is 8,000 miles wide while the sun is over 100,000 miles wide!). If we shrunk our 100,000 mile wide sun down to the size to a 6 inch diameter ball, Pluto (the planet that we are currently sending a satellite to) would be a half a mile distant! The true edge of the solar system would be at least a 1,000 kilometers away, and the nearest star, in Alpha Centary, would be over 2,000 kilometers away!
Given what we know about Einstein’s theory of relativity, and current and near-future technologies involving propulsion, there is no way man will ever reach the edge of our own solar system… It is just too far away.
Space, as Bill Bryson puts it in his eloquent and absorbing book, A Brief History of Nearly Everything is just enormous. … just ENORMOUS.

But let’s look at something even more staggering, shall we? Let’s blow up the nucleus of an atom to the size of the sun model (6 inches in diameter). Keep in mind that if you took a single strand of hair, according to Mr. Bryson again, and sliced it into a thousand pieces, then you took one of those tiny, tiny, tiny pieces and sliced it into 10,000 smaller pieces, you’d come close to the size of an atom. It is just too small to imagine accurately. Thus if you blew the nucleus of the atom up to about 6 inches in diameter (the size of the sun in this model), and keeping mind that Pluto would be a half mile away, if Pluto in this case were an electron circling the atom, it would need 100 times more distance and space. The space inside an atom, compared to the individual components, is just enormous. It’s beyond fathoming, really.
Everything you see around you is 99.99999 (taken out several hundred spaces) empty space—the solid nature of things is an illusion and due to a force within the atom itself—not due to the matter within the atom. Even a solid block of lead, at an atomic level is almost entirely empty space….far more in scale than the space contained within our own solar system!

The point I’m trying to make here, is that if you looked at the smartest of us orgers, say Lammastide or TheAudience…or even 2the9s, then you’d realize that their heads are nothing but completely empty space…. Completely void of any substantial matter….

That’s all I’m sayin’


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Reply #8 posted 02/24/10 9:33am

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RodeoSchro said:

Is there a cooler planet than Saturn?

Seriously. It's just so cocky, what with its rings and all.



Saturn has always been my favorite planet. nod














I can't believe I'm actually checking this thread. eek
I've reached in darkness and come out with treasure
I layed down with love and I woke up with lies
Whats it all worth only the heart can measure
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Reply #9 posted 02/24/10 9:40am

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TheVoid said:

The scale of the Solar has never, ever, …. ever been accurately portrayed in any science book, museum, or display…ever.


Wrong.

Bike through the solar system in Madison, Wisconsin

During the International Year of Astronomy (IYA), there’s no shortage of events and activities revolving around astronomy. Another opened in south-central Wisconsin on Monday, May 4. The Planet Trek Dane County (PTDC) scale-model solar system begins in Madison and extends some 23.5 miles along hiking and biking trails. For those of you in the area who want to get outdoors and appreciate the scale of the solar system, this is a good way to do it.

When solar system models try to fit the scale within a football-field size area, it limits people’s understanding of the sizes. (If Earth is the size of a peppercorn, how do you show Mercury?)

The University of Wisconsin-Madison’s Space Place (astronomy outreach center) designed the scale model with a ratio of 200 million to one. At this scale, Earth is the size of an apple, Saturn is the size of a large beach ball, and Mercury is the size of a walnut. PTDC starts at Monona Terrace on the shore of Lake Monona in downtown Madison. “Pluto” is located in the nearby village of Mt. Horeb.


They took this down in October...but I actually managed to bike from the sun to Neptune last year!
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Reply #10 posted 02/24/10 9:49am

ernestsewell

RodeoSchro said:

Is there a cooler planet than Saturn?

Seriously. It's just so cocky, what with its rings and all.

Jupiter might be the largest, but Saturn is a MFing pimp. That's why Pluto is gone. It wasn't pulling its weight, and Saturn was like "I got other moons, bitch! Now get lost!"
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Reply #11 posted 02/24/10 11:11am

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I am definitely full of hot air.

I'm sure many orgers would gladly affirm that of late. wacky
Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ
πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν
τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.”
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Reply #12 posted 02/24/10 11:38am

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ernestsewell said:

RodeoSchro said:

Is there a cooler planet than Saturn?

Seriously. It's just so cocky, what with its rings and all.

Jupiter might be the largest, but Saturn is a MFing pimp. That's why Pluto is gone. It wasn't pulling its weight, and Saturn was like "I got other moons, bitch! Now get lost!"

And God created Saturn. And he liked it, so he put a ring on it.

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Reply #13 posted 02/24/10 11:45am

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We don t approach life as an empty space. We don t create from empty space, we react to life because of the psychological identity that we have created.
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Reply #14 posted 02/24/10 11:48am

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Saturn isn't the only one with rings, y'all!

I am surprised to see how big Jupiter & Saturn are in comparison to the sun. Big fuckin planets
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Reply #15 posted 02/24/10 11:51am

NDRU

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My friend said recently "I'm not much of a star gazer."

I never understand when people are not interested in this stuff.
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Reply #16 posted 02/24/10 12:00pm

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NDRU said:

My friend said recently "I'm not much of a star gazer."

I never understand when people are not interested in this stuff.



Ya. Mazzy Star rocks.
I've reached in darkness and come out with treasure
I layed down with love and I woke up with lies
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It's not whats in the mirror but what's left inside
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Reply #17 posted 02/24/10 12:04pm

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TotalANXiousNESS said:

NDRU said:

My friend said recently "I'm not much of a star gazer."

I never understand when people are not interested in this stuff.



Ya. Mazzy Star rocks.


Big Star, Starchild, Jefferson Starship, Starfish & Coffee, Son Volt, Sun Ra, The Spiders from Mars.

It's a big universe. Hella big.
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Reply #18 posted 02/24/10 12:19pm

ernestsewell

florescent said:

ernestsewell said:


Jupiter might be the largest, but Saturn is a MFing pimp. That's why Pluto is gone. It wasn't pulling its weight, and Saturn was like "I got other moons, bitch! Now get lost!"

And God created Saturn. And he liked it, so he put a ring on it.

my current facebook status comment

I'm TOTALLY stealing that.
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Reply #19 posted 02/24/10 12:25pm

florescent

ernestsewell said:

florescent said:


And God created Saturn. And he liked it, so he put a ring on it.

my current facebook status comment

I'm TOTALLY stealing that.

Steal away!
It makes me think of God dancing like Beyonce. lol
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Reply #20 posted 02/24/10 2:35pm

TheVoid

Genesia said:

TheVoid said:

The scale of the Solar has never, ever, …. ever been accurately portrayed in any science book, museum, or display…ever.


Wrong.

Bike through the solar system in Madison, Wisconsin

During the International Year of Astronomy (IYA), there’s no shortage of events and activities revolving around astronomy. Another opened in south-central Wisconsin on Monday, May 4. The Planet Trek Dane County (PTDC) scale-model solar system begins in Madison and extends some 23.5 miles along hiking and biking trails. For those of you in the area who want to get outdoors and appreciate the scale of the solar system, this is a good way to do it.

When solar system models try to fit the scale within a football-field size area, it limits people’s understanding of the sizes. (If Earth is the size of a peppercorn, how do you show Mercury?)

The University of Wisconsin-Madison’s Space Place (astronomy outreach center) designed the scale model with a ratio of 200 million to one. At this scale, Earth is the size of an apple, Saturn is the size of a large beach ball, and Mercury is the size of a walnut. PTDC starts at Monona Terrace on the shore of Lake Monona in downtown Madison. “Pluto” is located in the nearby village of Mt. Horeb.


They took this down in October...but I actually managed to bike from the sun to Neptune last year!


Where has it been accurately depicted? confuse
Of course, I took my information from Bryson's book which was published in 2003/2004-ish though, but the only accurate scale at that time (indoor scale) only stretched out as far as Jupiter I believe.
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Reply #21 posted 02/24/10 2:41pm

TheVoid

ConsciousContact said:

We don t approach life as an empty space. We don t create from empty space, we react to life because of the psychological identity that we have created.


We reacted to the illusory nature of all things through consciousness derived from dependent origination and thus subject to discriminating ideas and thoughts about existence.
As the Zen Buddhist say, flies are attracted to rotten meat--indeed they love it--but it is still just putrid rotten meat. We react to what we are conditioned to react to via countless generations of evolution. All things are interdependently co-arisen and therefore illusory in nature when divided into their infinitely dependent 'parts' or conditions. An atom now has well over 150 sub particles, proven and postulated. Some scientists are now assuming that those sub-parts may go on and on.
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Reply #22 posted 02/24/10 2:42pm

ZombieKitten

NDRU said:

Saturn isn't the only one with rings, y'all!

I am surprised to see how big Jupiter & Saturn are in comparison to the sun. Big fuckin planets


they forgot to put on the ones on Neptune sad
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Reply #23 posted 02/24/10 2:42pm

TheVoid

TheVoid said:

Genesia said:



They took this down in October...but I actually managed to bike from the sun to Neptune last year!


Where has it been accurately depicted? confuse
Of course, I took my information from Bryson's book which was published in 2003/2004-ish though, but the only accurate scale at that time (indoor scale) only stretched out as far as Jupiter I believe.

Oops, and the 'solar' system in this case also means past the ort cloud...the true edge of the solar system (which of course is 2,000 kilometers depending on how large one choses to make the sun--in this case, about the size of a small bolling ball).
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Reply #24 posted 02/24/10 2:43pm

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TheVoid said:

Genesia said:



They took this down in October...but I actually managed to bike from the sun to Neptune last year!


Where has it been accurately depicted? confuse
Of course, I took my information from Bryson's book which was published in 2003/2004-ish though, but the only accurate scale at that time (indoor scale) only stretched out as far as Jupiter I believe.


Madison, Wisconsin. There is continuous bike trail that stretches from downtown Madison to Dodgeville - over 40 miles away. They put the Sun near Monona Terrace and spaced out the planets (scaled in size and distance) all the way to Mount Horeb - over 23 miles in total.

The book you're looking at pre-dated this exhibit, which was constructed last year.
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Reply #25 posted 02/24/10 2:48pm

TheVoid

oooohhhhh.


damn, that's cool!



OK, everybody please listen up. We need to pretend that this thread was posted in 2003/2004, mmmmkay? I've revised the crap out of my original post simply to get rid of spelling errors and that was EXHAUSTING. I can't do more. I just simply can't.

So keeping that in mind, please pretend this is 2003/2004. I'm sorry by the way for those of you who wanted Howard Dean to beat Kerry for the nomination, but you crazy motherfuckers who thought Kusinich(sp?) had a chance are wacky. How about the Buccaneers, huh? I told yall Gruden was a badass motherfucker! They'll keep him employed with the Bucs at least until 2020 when he's good and old, you mark my words motherfuckers! woot!
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Reply #26 posted 02/24/10 2:55pm

Genesia

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TheVoid said:

oooohhhhh.


damn, that's cool!



OK, everybody please listen up. We need to pretend that this thread was posted in 2003/2004, mmmmkay? I've revised the crap out of my original post simply to get rid of spelling errors and that was EXHAUSTING. I can't do more. I just simply can't.

So keeping that in mind, please pretend this is 2003/2004. I'm sorry by the way for those of you who wanted Howard Dean to beat Kerry for the nomination, but you crazy motherfuckers who thought Kusinich(sp?) had a chance are wacky. How about the Buccaneers, huh? I told yall Gruden was a badass motherfucker! They'll keep him employed with the Bucs at least until 2020 when he's good and old, you mark my words motherfuckers! woot!


Have you heard Musicology yet? What the fuck was Prince thinking with that mess? rolleyes

I'm totally hittin' the presale, though. nod
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Reply #27 posted 02/24/10 3:05pm

TheVoid

Genesia said:

TheVoid said:

oooohhhhh.


damn, that's cool!



OK, everybody please listen up. We need to pretend that this thread was posted in 2003/2004, mmmmkay? I've revised the crap out of my original post simply to get rid of spelling errors and that was EXHAUSTING. I can't do more. I just simply can't.

So keeping that in mind, please pretend this is 2003/2004. I'm sorry by the way for those of you who wanted Howard Dean to beat Kerry for the nomination, but you crazy motherfuckers who thought Kusinich(sp?) had a chance are wacky. How about the Buccaneers, huh? I told yall Gruden was a badass motherfucker! They'll keep him employed with the Bucs at least until 2020 when he's good and old, you mark my words motherfuckers! woot!


Have you heard Musicology yet? What the fuck was Prince thinking with that mess? rolleyes

I'm totally hittin' the presale, though. nod

No, I haven't heard it yet. I'm just glad the age of 'crazy Prince' is over and he's actually doing positive P&R things now. Those Cease and Desist episodes are long past us now. This is the beginning of the new Dawn, I can feel it! woot!
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Reply #28 posted 02/24/10 4:06pm

RodeoSchro

This thread can be saved if we turn it into one about how important NASA is.
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Reply #29 posted 02/24/10 4:40pm

FauxReal

I wish we had more than one moon like all the cool planets. They can keep the bullshit methane clouds though.
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