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Reply #30 posted 02/24/10 12:14pm

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they rocked it! nod

however , i never understood, nor do i care to, why people have this notion that "whites" can't dance. rhythm is not colour specific.

black, white, puerto rican...everybody's just a-freakin' dancing jigdancing jigdancing jig
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Reply #31 posted 02/24/10 12:19pm

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SCNDLS said:


Yet another sign of the apocalypse shake

But seriously, is this a "black" sorority? If not, I ain't impressed cuz anybody with rhythm can learn choreography. bored

But any white male or female who gets PLEDGED (for real) in a black sorority or frat, now THAT is more meaningful to me. I know quite a few white girls and guys 20 years ago who actually JOINED black organizations and stepped their asses off so they got the FULL meaning and purpose behind steppin'. It's not just steps contrary to popular belief. rolleyes

I think I may see what you mean. At my undergrad school, our Omegas taught a white fraternity, Delta Tau Delta, how to step. They performed at a step show and they BROUGHT it! eek headbang ...But it was soon forgotten.

On the other hand, there was a lone white guy who pledged Phi Beta Sigma. He got his ASS KICKED on line shake and he was roundly disrespected by both the black and white student body for years. He was an average stepper at first -- no worse than some of the black bros, but people used to show up to step shows and Sigma jams just to diss him. disbelief Anyway, he showed his loyalty to the organization, he learned its history and legacy like the back of his hand, and his bros always stuck up for him -- and these days he gets CRAZY respect from just about everyone who was part of the campus community when he was there. He's actively involved in the Sigma's alumni chapter at my undergrad school, and in many ways he's now the glue of their fraternity there.

It's something I'd not put myself through -- and something I think he shouldn't have had to go through -- but in hindsight there really is something special about the totality of that experience he took on.
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yeahthat That's precisely what I'm talking about.

I grew up in Austin, a college town with about 100,000 college students. Only about 5% black so the Greeks were extra close. Greek weekends were MAJOR down there so they came from several states to compete. I was going to step shows that lasted 6 hours or more since 10th grade. I also stepped in college myself.

I ain't taking nothing away from these gals, they did their thing and I already got this email yesterday from some black folks. But white folks stepping ain't nothing new to me but they were usually part of a black organization which meritted real respect from me and most black Greeks I know because of what they went through to get it. Also, white Greeks being taught to step by black Greeks has also been a common novelty at step shows for ages. My point, which I said from the start, is that this, in and of itself is meaningless to ME, without the full context of pledging to a black fraternity or sorority. shrug

Didn't you go to school up North? What's ironic to me from your story is that anytime white folks pledged down here, they became instant celebs on the yard and INSTANTLY got mad respect after crossing over based on the fact that they would willingly join a black frat/sorority and subject themselves to shit that would NEVER happen if they pledged a white one. They were generally viewed as being really "down" because of their commitment as long as they didn't "act black" or try to be something they're not.
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Reply #32 posted 02/24/10 12:22pm

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CHIC0 said:

they rocked it! nod

however , i never understood, nor do i care to, why people have this notion that "whites" can't dance. rhythm is not colour specific.

black, white, puerto rican...everybody's just a-freakin' dancing jigdancing jigdancing jig

whofarted Sheeeeetttt some of the madness I saw going on last night at the JayZ concert would definitely dispute your opinion. I've always known white folks who can dance their asses off. But don't kid yourself, there are definitely some excessively rhythmically challenged white folks walking around. It is what it is.
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Reply #33 posted 02/24/10 12:31pm

2elijah

I want to see some black folks try and learn that Irish step dancing(?) that Michael Flatley does. It looks hard. I watched his show that he did on broadway about 4 or 5 year ago on PBS and fell in love with it. Sh*t I watched it twice as a matter of fact, and not embarassed to say as a Black female, I love to watch that type of dancing. I also agree that in today's generation, many of the white kids can dance a whole lot better than the young generation before the mid 80s, that's for sure.
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Reply #34 posted 02/24/10 12:33pm

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lol
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Reply #35 posted 02/24/10 12:38pm

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2elijah said:

I want to see some black folks try and learn that Irish step dancing(?) that Michael Flatley does. It looks hard. I watched his show that he did on broadway about 4 or 5 year ago on PBS and fell in love with it. Sh*t I watched it twice as a matter of fact, and not embarassed to say as a Black female, I love to watch that type of dancing. I also agree that in today's generation, many of the white kids can dance a whole lot better than the generation before the mid 80s, that's for sure.
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Why? Brothers have tap.....
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Reply #36 posted 02/24/10 2:41pm

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2elijah said:

I want to see some black folks try and learn that Irish step dancing(?) that Michael Flatley does. It looks hard. I watched his show that he did on broadway about 4 or 5 year ago on PBS and fell in love with it. Sh*t I watched it twice as a matter of fact, and not embarassed to say as a Black female, I love to watch that type of dancing. I also agree that in today's generation, many of the white kids can dance a whole lot better than the young generation before the mid 80s, that's for sure.
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Irish step dancing is pretty impressive. Was it not Flatley who did a duo performance with Savion Glover some years ago on an award show? confuse If I recall correctly, it started out choreographed as a battle, but it progressed into them dancing together in their complementary styles. It was very cool.
Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ
πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν
τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.”
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Reply #37 posted 02/24/10 2:48pm

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SCNDLS said:



Didn't you go to school up North? What's ironic to me from your story is that anytime white folks pledged down here, they became instant celebs on the yard and INSTANTLY got mad respect after crossing over based on the fact that they would willingly join a black frat/sorority and subject themselves to shit that would NEVER happen if they pledged a white one. They were generally viewed as being really "down" because of their commitment as long as they didn't "act black" or try to be something they're not.

Yep, I did undergrad in Ohio. And the story is ironic against yours, given how the Northern U.S. has always liked to think of itself as so much more racially progressive than the South. It was weird: He'd always hung out with black students, and folk generally left him alone. But the minute he pledged Sigma, you'd have thought he came out of the closet as a Martian. omfg He caught hell from all sides.
Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ
πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν
τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.”
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Reply #38 posted 02/24/10 2:57pm

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Lammastide said:

SCNDLS said:



Didn't you go to school up North? What's ironic to me from your story is that anytime white folks pledged down here, they became instant celebs on the yard and INSTANTLY got mad respect after crossing over based on the fact that they would willingly join a black frat/sorority and subject themselves to shit that would NEVER happen if they pledged a white one. They were generally viewed as being really "down" because of their commitment as long as they didn't "act black" or try to be something they're not.

Yep, I did undergrad in Ohio. And the story is ironic against yours, given how the Northern U.S. has always liked to think of itself as so much more racially progressive than the South. It was weird: He'd always hung out with black students, and folk generally left him alone. But the minute he pledged Sigma, you'd have thought he came out of the closet as a Martian. omfg He caught hell from all sides.

Now, don't get me wrong, they definitely got "pledged" within an inch of their lives but after they went over it was all good. Don't fuck around and let them white boys be able to step too cuz then they were bonafide stars and would get extra props and cheers at the parties and step shows. So, WE have been giving it up to white steppers for awhile now. nod
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Reply #39 posted 02/24/10 3:11pm

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SCNDLS said:

Lammastide said:


Yep, I did undergrad in Ohio. And the story is ironic against yours, given how the Northern U.S. has always liked to think of itself as so much more racially progressive than the South. It was weird: He'd always hung out with black students, and folk generally left him alone. But the minute he pledged Sigma, you'd have thought he came out of the closet as a Martian. omfg He caught hell from all sides.

Now, don't get me wrong, they definitely got "pledged" within an inch of their lives but after they went over it was all good. Don't fuck around and let them white boys be able to step too cuz then they were bonafide stars and would get extra props and cheers at the parties and step shows. So, WE have been giving it up to white steppers for awhile now. nod

One thing that I suspect made it tougher for this particular white dude is he wasn't bad looking. Once he decided to pledge, a certain cache of the sisters on the yard were ALL OVER him! cool That confused some of the other sisters and, of course, pissed off the bros. And the white folk on campus simply didn't know what the hell to make of this mess. confuse

It was a 3-ring circus of haters there for a while... but he won out in the end. lol
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μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ
πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν
τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.”
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Reply #40 posted 02/24/10 3:19pm

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Lammastide said:

SCNDLS said:


Now, don't get me wrong, they definitely got "pledged" within an inch of their lives but after they went over it was all good. Don't fuck around and let them white boys be able to step too cuz then they were bonafide stars and would get extra props and cheers at the parties and step shows. So, WE have been giving it up to white steppers for awhile now. nod

One thing that I suspect made it tougher for this particular white dude is he wasn't bad looking. Once he decided to pledge, a certain cache of the sisters on the yard were ALL OVER him! cool That confused some of the other sisters and, of course, pissed off the bros. And the white folk on campus simply didn't know what the hell to make of this mess. confuse

It was a 3-ring circus of haters there for a while... but he won out in the end. lol

spit Po baby! lol

In my experience, all the white dudes who pledged a black frat only dated sistas and the white girls only dated black guys. The guys were usually cutie pies too. We had a white Alpha that was known as Todd the White Alpha. That became his first name after awhile. He had NO shortage of chocolate honeys after him. We were friends and I used to kick it at his apartment and it was a veritable parade of hoes in and out of that joint. lol

Now, I know from personal experience that non-black girls pledging definitely got questioned about their "preference" while on line and prolly had it worse, in that regard, than the white guys pledging.
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Reply #41 posted 02/24/10 4:52pm

2elijah

Graycap23 said:

2elijah said:

I want to see some black folks try and learn that Irish step dancing(?) that Michael Flatley does. It looks hard. I watched his show that he did on broadway about 4 or 5 year ago on PBS and fell in love with it. Sh*t I watched it twice as a matter of fact, and not embarassed to say as a Black female, I love to watch that type of dancing. I also agree that in today's generation, many of the white kids can dance a whole lot better than the generation before the mid 80s, that's for sure.
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Why? Brothers have tap.....


It's a different kind of tap though. lol
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Reply #42 posted 02/24/10 4:57pm

2elijah

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why did you have to emphasize on them being white? damn people playin race cards up in her like it's poker night n shit


Hey, those girls did a great job. Very creative in their moves, not boring. It's just that step dancing has been done more by African-Americans, so I guess this is why this received the reaction it did.
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Reply #43 posted 02/24/10 5:24pm

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TonyVanDam said:

SIDE NOTE: This is history in the making. Congrats to these ladies for earning it.

http://www.eurweb.com/?p=9531

*Here’s something you just don’t see every day. An all-white girl step crew … winning a stepping contest. It happened recently in the Atl at the Sprite Step Off Challenge.

And just who are these white chicks? They’re representing Zeta Tau Alpha out of … Arkansas and they stepped away with the $100,000 grand prize. Chew on that while you’re checking them out.



Hell yes. lol
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Reply #44 posted 02/24/10 5:29pm

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ThreadCula said:

IAintTheOne said:

why did you have to emphasize on them being white? damn people playin race cards up in her like it's poker night n shit



Because, traditionally its practiced by black fraternities and sororities. No race cards


Thank you. nod
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Reply #45 posted 02/24/10 5:33pm

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SCNDLS said:

thejason said:

fuckin' white girls...woot!

Yet another sign of the apocalypse shake

But seriously, is this a "black" sorority? If not, I ain't impressed cuz anybody with rhythm can learn choreography. bored

But any white male or female who gets PLEDGED (for real) in a black sorority or frat, now THAT is more meaningful to me. I know quite a few white girls and guys 20 years ago who actually JOINED black organizations and stepped their asses off so they got the FULL meaning and purpose behind steppin'. It's not just steps contrary to popular belief. rolleyes


Maybe those white girls had a great black dance/step instructor. Who knows. AFAIC, they deserved to win.
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Reply #46 posted 02/24/10 5:39pm

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johnart said:

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shrug I'm referring to not being impressed on the basis that they're white. That's not impressive to me.


AAh! Meaning that if they were with a black sorrority it wouldn't matter because black or white (or whatever) they would be expected to have (or learn) those skills? I get that.

I'm just sayin that even if they come from Lilly White U.S.A. I like seein the crowd give 'em props.

I've always liked that sort of thing. Like when on Showtime @ the Apollo some white chick or dude came out on amateur night and you'd hear the crowd all hrmph and then be on their feet if they kicked ass. I like when skill transcends color. Corny but it makes me all mushy.
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That's how I as a black man felt about Expose when they earned a huge props at The Apollo in the late 80's. If you can funk & soul, you can funk & soul. cool
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Reply #47 posted 02/24/10 5:41pm

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DesireeNevermind said:

those were white girls? I thought they was just light skinned.


During a close up, I thought one of them were latina at first.
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Reply #48 posted 02/24/10 5:44pm

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CHIC0 said:

they rocked it! nod

however , i never understood, nor do i care to, why people have this notion that "whites" can't dance. rhythm is not colour specific.

black, white, puerto rican...everybody's just a-freakin' dancing jigdancing jigdancing jig


.....good times a rollin'!
dancing jig nod
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Reply #49 posted 02/24/10 5:45pm

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TonyVanDam said:

SCNDLS said:


Yet another sign of the apocalypse shake

But seriously, is this a "black" sorority? If not, I ain't impressed cuz anybody with rhythm can learn choreography. bored

But any white male or female who gets PLEDGED (for real) in a black sorority or frat, now THAT is more meaningful to me. I know quite a few white girls and guys 20 years ago who actually JOINED black organizations and stepped their asses off so they got the FULL meaning and purpose behind steppin'. It's not just steps contrary to popular belief. rolleyes


Maybe those white girls had a great black dance/step instructor. Who knows. AFAIC, they deserved to win.

rolleyes I didn't say they didn't deserve to win.
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Reply #50 posted 02/24/10 5:48pm

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2elijah said:

I want to see some black folks try and learn that Irish step dancing(?) that Michael Flatley does. It looks hard. I watched his show that he did on broadway about 4 or 5 year ago on PBS and fell in love with it. Sh*t I watched it twice as a matter of fact, and not embarassed to say as a Black female, I love to watch that type of dancing. I also agree that in today's generation, many of the white kids can dance a whole lot better than the young generation before the mid 80s, that's for sure.
[Edited 2/24/10 12:38pm]


Oh please, rolleyes MC Hammer already killed Michael Flatley's candy-ass on the dancefloor years ago. lol

.....or maybe that was a lost episode of Celebrity Death Match that I was watching. boxed
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Reply #51 posted 02/24/10 5:50pm

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SCNDLS said:

TonyVanDam said:



Maybe those white girls had a great black dance/step instructor. Who knows. AFAIC, they deserved to win.

rolleyes I didn't say they didn't deserve to win.


I know. I was just saying! wink
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Reply #52 posted 02/24/10 5:55pm

fec06

Look who won the Fraternity category:

FRATERNITY
1ST PLACE

Alpha Phi Alpha:
Delta Xi

SORORITY 1ST PLACE

Zeta Tau Alpha:
Epsilon
2ND PLACE

Alpha Phi Alpha:
Alpha Phi
2ND PLACE

Alpha Kappa Alpha:
Tau
3RD PLACE

Phi Beta Sigma:
NJ Citywide
3RD PLACE

Delta Sigma Theta:
Sigma

BRRRRR!!!!!
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Reply #53 posted 02/24/10 6:01pm

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fec06 said:

Look who won the Fraternity category:

FRATERNITY
1ST PLACE

Alpha Phi Alpha:
Delta Xi

SORORITY 1ST PLACE

Zeta Tau Alpha:
Epsilon
2ND PLACE

Alpha Phi Alpha:
Alpha Phi
2ND PLACE

Alpha Kappa Alpha:
Tau
3RD PLACE

Phi Beta Sigma:
NJ Citywide
3RD PLACE

Delta Sigma Theta:
Sigma

BRRRRR!!!!!

lol Need a sweater??? shake
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Reply #54 posted 02/24/10 6:02pm

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SCNDLS said:

fec06 said:

Look who won the Fraternity category:

FRATERNITY
1ST PLACE

Alpha Phi Alpha:
Delta Xi

SORORITY 1ST PLACE

Zeta Tau Alpha:
Epsilon
2ND PLACE

Alpha Phi Alpha:
Alpha Phi
2ND PLACE

Alpha Kappa Alpha:
Tau
3RD PLACE

Phi Beta Sigma:
NJ Citywide
3RD PLACE

Delta Sigma Theta:
Sigma

BRRRRR!!!!!

lol Need a sweater??? shake



Naww, I'm cold by nature!!!! nod nod
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Reply #55 posted 02/24/10 6:03pm

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fec06 said:

SCNDLS said:


lol Need a sweater??? shake



Naww, I'm cold by nature!!!! nod nod

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Reply #56 posted 02/24/10 6:04pm

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fec06 said:

Look who won the Fraternity category:

FRATERNITY
1ST PLACE

Alpha Phi Alpha:
Delta Xi

SORORITY 1ST PLACE

Zeta Tau Alpha:
Epsilon
2ND PLACE

Alpha Phi Alpha:
Alpha Phi
2ND PLACE

Alpha Kappa Alpha:
Tau
3RD PLACE

Phi Beta Sigma:
NJ Citywide
3RD PLACE

Delta Sigma Theta:
Sigma

BRRRRR!!!!!

S'up, frat? cool
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Reply #57 posted 02/24/10 6:06pm

fec06

Yes sir! Frat took care of business as usual 1st and 2nd.
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Reply #58 posted 02/25/10 12:01am

missmad

that was hot!!!!! go gals go!
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Reply #59 posted 02/25/10 3:49am

JellyBean

Gotta give them their props, they good.
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