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Thread started 04/13/10 7:18pm

Mars23

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Marvel set to tank The Avengers before it even starts.

Word is that perennial hack and consistent TV failure Joss Whedon is in final talks to direct "The Avengers".

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Reply #1 posted 04/14/10 12:08am

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Reply #2 posted 04/14/10 4:32am

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Oh, no. Alien Resurrection was horrible! omfg
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Reply #3 posted 04/14/10 5:55am

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okay, first of all I wasn't that crazy about the idea when i first heard it either. but it's not the WORST thing in the world.

secondly, he didn't direct Alien Resurrection. he wrote it. just like he only wrote the original Buffy The Vampire Slayer movie.

The man can write and direct. Serenity was a damn good flick. And it shows what the man can do when he writes and directs.

As to his "tv failures", I wish I could fail as much as he has. He made Buffy a cultural phenomenon and kept it on the air for 7 years between 2 networks, had Angel on the air for 5. Yeah, Firefly was only on for a season but critically it's gone down as one of the best "cancelled" shows in the history of television NOT TO MENTION how many cancelled tv shows get green lit to be made a movie? And Dollhouse. Once again, personally I think the plug got pulled too soon. Which goes to show if there is a knock on Joss it's that he really pays a lot of attention to character development in his storytelling, and today's tv audience has no patience for that.

That won't be a problem with the Avengers as all of the primary characters will be well known to the audience. I don't have a huge problem with Joss directing it IF he gets to have some control writing wise as well.
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Reply #4 posted 04/14/10 6:10am

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ButterscotchPimp said:

okay, first of all I wasn't that crazy about the idea when i first heard it either. but it's not the WORST thing in the world.

secondly, he didn't direct Alien Resurrection. he wrote it. just like he only wrote the original Buffy The Vampire Slayer movie.

The man can write and direct. Serenity was a damn good flick. And it shows what the man can do when he writes and directs.

As to his "tv failures", I wish I could fail as much as he has. He made Buffy a cultural phenomenon and kept it on the air for 7 years between 2 networks, had Angel on the air for 5. Yeah, Firefly was only on for a season but critically it's gone down as one of the best "cancelled" shows in the history of television NOT TO MENTION how many cancelled tv shows get green lit to be made a movie? And Dollhouse. Once again, personally I think the plug got pulled too soon. Which goes to show if there is a knock on Joss it's that he really pays a lot of attention to character development in his storytelling, and today's tv audience has no patience for that.

That won't be a problem with the Avengers as all of the primary characters will be well known to the audience. I don't have a huge problem with Joss directing it IF he gets to have some control writing wise as well.

i don't like team-up or VS. movies (freddy vs jason, aliens vs predator) much to begin with.

but whedon rocks as a writer. buffy is AMAZING, angel is great, firefly is great, as are a lot of his comic runs, the runaways and astonishing x-men, especially.
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Reply #5 posted 04/14/10 6:13am

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cborgman said:

ButterscotchPimp said:

okay, first of all I wasn't that crazy about the idea when i first heard it either. but it's not the WORST thing in the world.

secondly, he didn't direct Alien Resurrection. he wrote it. just like he only wrote the original Buffy The Vampire Slayer movie.

The man can write and direct. Serenity was a damn good flick. And it shows what the man can do when he writes and directs.

As to his "tv failures", I wish I could fail as much as he has. He made Buffy a cultural phenomenon and kept it on the air for 7 years between 2 networks, had Angel on the air for 5. Yeah, Firefly was only on for a season but critically it's gone down as one of the best "cancelled" shows in the history of television NOT TO MENTION how many cancelled tv shows get green lit to be made a movie? And Dollhouse. Once again, personally I think the plug got pulled too soon. Which goes to show if there is a knock on Joss it's that he really pays a lot of attention to character development in his storytelling, and today's tv audience has no patience for that.

That won't be a problem with the Avengers as all of the primary characters will be well known to the audience. I don't have a huge problem with Joss directing it IF he gets to have some control writing wise as well.

i don't like team-up or VS. movies (freddy vs jason, aliens vs predator) much to begin with.

but whedon rocks as a writer. buffy is AMAZING, angel is great, firefly is great, as are a lot of his comic runs, the runaways and astonishing x-men, especially.



In general, I don't like those kind of movies either. But, Marvel's had a hard-on for this project forever. And it will be interesting considering all of their stand alone movies have been leading up to this one. It just might be a game-changer.
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Reply #6 posted 04/14/10 6:19am

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Word is that perennial hack and consistent TV failure Joss Whedon is in final talks to direct "The Avengers".

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Reply #7 posted 04/14/10 6:26am

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Unless Joss concocts some reason to put Fran Kranz onscreen... disbelief
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Reply #8 posted 04/14/10 7:28am

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I was hoping for some consistency like Spider-Man's or Iron Man's Director. granted, I have yet to see how Iron Man 2 turns out...
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Reply #9 posted 04/14/10 10:11am

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ButterscotchPimp said:

okay, first of all I wasn't that crazy about the idea when i first heard it either. but it's not the WORST thing in the world.

secondly, he didn't direct Alien Resurrection. he wrote it. just like he only wrote the original Buffy The Vampire Slayer movie.

The man can write and direct. Serenity was a damn good flick. And it shows what the man can do when he writes and directs.

As to his "tv failures", I wish I could fail as much as he has. He made Buffy a cultural phenomenon and kept it on the air for 7 years between 2 networks, had Angel on the air for 5. Yeah, Firefly was only on for a season but critically it's gone down as one of the best "cancelled" shows in the history of television NOT TO MENTION how many cancelled tv shows get green lit to be made a movie? And Dollhouse. Once again, personally I think the plug got pulled too soon. Which goes to show if there is a knock on Joss it's that he really pays a lot of attention to character development in his storytelling, and today's tv audience has no patience for that.

That won't be a problem with the Avengers as all of the primary characters will be well known to the audience. I don't have a huge problem with Joss directing it IF he gets to have some control writing wise as well.


Agree with all that, and he DOES know how to handle large casts, no doubt about that, and his run on the Buffy comics has been pretty sweet. I like Joss, he's a good writer and script doctor. He deserves a shot at a large studio movie.
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Reply #10 posted 04/14/10 10:45am

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I gotta tell ya, I'm a Marvel honk and all, but I think the whole super hero team thing only works in pulp form.

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They should just make a West Coast Avengers with some hot chicks as Mockingbird and Tigra.

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Reply #11 posted 04/14/10 10:47am

JellyBean

Man,if this is true, this sucks!! I am looking forward to this movie. I hope that they don't screw it up.
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Reply #12 posted 04/14/10 10:48am

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I was always a DC guy, but I can't wait for this movie. I think Joss will do all right here if he's the guy they end up going with.
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Reply #13 posted 04/15/10 3:10am

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With the exception of X-men and X2, I can't recall any comic book movie being able to deal with more than one superhero successfully, although I'd say The Dark Knight didn't have any trouble with the multiple villains. Maybe they could pull it off but I'm not optimistic.
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Reply #14 posted 04/18/10 8:56pm

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Maybe there will be musical numbers added! boogie dancing jig
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