Vendetta1 said:

JustErin said:

more than a couple I'm sure

RodeoSchro said:

Yeah, and he talking out the side of his neck. Any black man who defines his ass Calileboneseasianasshole or whatever the hell he calls himself cannot and must not be taken seriously. I can't stand his black ass. Not because he's a ho, but because he's negating his heritage.

Shyra said:

But his heritage isn't solely African American. He's said he identifies most with being Asian. Surely he can define himself how he wishes.

Fauxie said:

When has he said this?

SCNDLS said:

Some interview from the 90s I remember reading when there was a Tiger thread in P&R. It was about his spiritual beliefs, I think, that's he's Buddhist, how he was raised, his mental preparation and all that which makes up a large part of who he is. I think he may need to go to temple.

Fauxie said:

Wha???



For somebody self-identifying as Asian he sure know how to avoid some Asian pussy. He aint had asian pussy since asian pussy had him.

Fauxie said:

Yeah, I heard that he thinks he's Buddhist. But, I've never heard him say that he identifes racially more with his Asian heritage than his black side, hence why he came up with that bullshit term.

DesireeNevermind said:

SCNDLS said:

Yeah, not exactly the poster child. I do remember reading that part about him identifying with being Asian more as I remember posting it on a previous thread, but I just had a quick google and couldn't dig it out this time.

In looking for that I read elsewhere an interview where he said he marked both Asian and African-American on a form, saying he raised as those two only and it was all he knew (rather than White or Native American).

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JustErin said:

I would imagine quite a few! Every category of sports has its' groupies. I'm pretty sure I even know some of 'em.

DesireeNevermind said:

Like I said on that other long thread about him, Tiger Woods is a brown skin white man.

Its sad that this dude and the fact that he loved to screw is going to capture worldwide attention. He's probably gonna just say he is sorry (and not specifically admit to anything) except maybe for hurting so many, and ask for privacy while he works out his sex addiction issues.

WaterInYourBath said:

Because he's attracted to white women he's a white man? Or from something else?

Fauxie said:

I agree with this.

I remember when Fox News started saying, "...but is Obama truly black?" just after he got elected as the first black president.

Regardless of Obama's mixed background, he identifies with being black. Likewise, Tiger identifies with being Asian. It's his right. I know this annoys some folks when I say it (and I don't give a rat's ass) but I'm half white/half Asian, and I identify as Asian. I couldn't give fuckall what others think about it.

Just like you Nick. I see you as being Asian even though you don't have any Asian in you because of how 'Thai' you've become. From the waste down, I identify you as black though.

Fauxie said:

See? THAT'S what I'm talking about. He seemed like he was determined to be anything BUT black. All I'm saying is had he been born without the talent for golf or any other extraordinary virtue, he could never get away with defining himself as "multicultural." Anyone would look at him and think, "obviously black." Ain't a damn Asian feature visible unless he's got a little dick in his draws. Just sayin...

Hell, I went through that mess back in the day when some folk couldn't quite figure out my ethnic background. "Are you Spanish? Are you Polynesian? Are you Creole" I couldn't understand why they would never include black/African-American/colored/Negro. Mind you, I'm talking about a time when "Negro" was the accepted ethnic term. Many times I would just cut them off and say, "I am black or Negro," and damn proud of it. Again, "Negro" was acceptable and "politically correct" up until the late '60's.

I have this argument with my mother all the time about Tiger Woods. She adores him and feels the same way you do in that he wanted to include his mother's heritage. Plus, Ma grew up in the Jim Crow South. To this day, she still feels that some white people discriminate against her, and she could "pass" if she were so inclined. So when she goes on a tirade about some perceived slight by a white person, I tell her, "MA! Get over it! They probably don't even know you're black!"

Shyra said:

His face has definite Thai features.

"Asian" is as ubiquitous a term as 'caucasian' here, and there are several Thai poeple with features not too different from Tiger's.



His skin is darker than this guy above, but there are also Thais with very dark skin--darker than many black Americans that I knew.


The issue here isn't how he looks or what the rest of us identify him as. The issue is how he chooses to identify himself. Again, just like Obama identifying as black and Fox news insisting he should be identified as bi-racial--Isn't it Obama's choice whatever his reasons or motives?



I do think Tiger probably has racial shame in him though--or at least he's bought into the western beauty value and probably doesn't find ethnic groups outside of white attractive. But I have no proof of that, and who someone prefers to sleep with has little bearing on how they feel about themselves. Prince sleeps with women for example, and he's obviously gay.

For the record, I'm Asian and I have an enormous penis.


MASSIVE.

TheVoid said:

Again, I ask, when has HE said he's Asian? I've heard Obama and other mixed folks identify as only black. But I ain't never heard Tigga say, "I'm Asian" in the same way. Granted, I may have missed it cuz I never followed him like that OR cared cuz I was done with his tired ass when he said he was cablinasian. So, when did he say this?

Shyra said:

But true.

SCNDLS said:

He identifies as being multi-cultural and moreso as Asian thank black.

Look, even if he identified as white, it's his personal business and right.


But of course, if he invents a vitaligo excuse and bleaches his skin, gets cheek implants, and a pixie-nose, it could get a little weird.

Fauxie said:

because he has more Hoes that a Chinese phone book?
*rimshot*

Here's an interesting article about him correcting reporters who originally just identified him as black: http://www.texnews.com/ti...42197.html

It's actually interesting because it goes beyond Tiger and speaks of who other multiculturals identify themselves in general.

I know that I existed in this strange quazi-western state for years and finally thought it was just easier to say "Asian". But now here in Bangkok, I'm "farrang" which is hilarious cause that means 'western/white'.
No matter where I am, I just don't fit in.

TheVoid said:

Why bring MJ into this convo when dude DID have vitiligo? Many people that knew him before all the surgeries have confirmed this, so why even go there, especially since he ALWAYS identified as nothing but black?

TheVoid said:

Though it's 'waist'.

SCNDLS said:

MJ ain't black.

please.


But then again, neither is Tiger or OJ. All I'm saying is what someone choses is their own business. Hell, this entire thing isn't anybody's business but him and his wife's really.

Hell, MJ's white woman track record is about the same, only Tiger actually fucked his girls.

TheVoid said:

To SCNDLS, I can't find that interview anymore, but he definitely mentioned identifying with his Asian heritage more than anything else because of how Asian culture and Buddhism was part of his upbringing and values. He definitely hasn't shouted from the rooftops that he's Asian only though. In the link above he says "The various media have portrayed me as an African-American, sometimes Asian. In fact, I am both... . Truthfully, I feel very fortunate and equally proud to be both African-American and Asian". That mirrors what I've read elsewhere. So if he's denying anything, it's his white and native-american roots.

Dan, did you notice the part in the article about 'luuk khrung' in Thailand?



Definite fail there then. Not as accepted? How about put on a pedestal, a model agency's dream! Hello modeling, acting, singing!

They did say this though:



Still, that's 'luk khrung' where the child is part Thai and something generally darker than 'farang'. The term normally refers to Thai mixed with European, let's face it, which probably allows for the most opportunity in Thailand.

Lastly, there is some Thai in Tiger's facial features. I'd agree at first glance it's obvious why early in his career he was referred to as black or African-American though. His skin is darker than most (though not all) Thais, and to those not totally familiar with the nuances in physical appearance of Thais the 'Asian-ness' isn't easy to pick up on (especially if you're thinking more of Chinese, Korean or Japanese features).

TheVoid said:

You're pretty hard on MJ, I think. You probably have similar white boy track records.

Fauxie said:

Yes, I saw the luk Krunng thing

My students actually react very positively to me when they find out I'm a mut mixed with white
This country has some serious race issues

But yeah, I think I'm being selected to appear on T.V. because I'm mixed and fit a certain 'profile'. Thai's won't even hide the fact--those bitches will just come out and say it. "Luk Krunng" is handsome, yes. Very popular in Thailand, yes.

I think that's the thing though--In American Asian always means 'yellow' Asians--not the red, brown, and olive variety. I remember somebody getting really pissed at me a few years ago about a conversation I had when they referred to Asians and they meant 'Indians', and being American, I didn't see Indians as "Asian' because I was thinking of the yellow variety. Thus, when I realized what they meant, it was like we were talking past each other the entire time.

My view of what Asian is has expanded by leaps and bounds, along with my appreciation for the differences in nationalities and ethnic backgrounds just in the last 2 months alone.

Is it just me or is this shitty thread crashing the org? All the other threads open except this one.

Fauxie said:

All my white boys were men though.