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Reply #60 posted 02/16/10 11:43am

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MrsMdiver said:



I enjoyed breast feeding for the most part and wished I could have done it longer but he just used me as a pacifier.
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You can still express the milk for his feedings... even though it is a chore.
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nod That's what I did
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Reply #61 posted 02/16/10 11:49am

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The health visitors come put almost daily when the babies first come home for a few weeks, until they feel that all is well with mom and baby.
Then there is an 8 week check by the GP, then the vaccines with the nurse. Other than that, he has only seen the GP for his dry skin rash that was not clearing on it's own. That is when she told me that he could not be teething when I told her he is chewing on everything, fussy, cheeks getting red, drooling...



That is interesting. I assume (hope) it is something you can always and with out question opt out of. (I love the support but I cherish privacy).

Also, does the UK system allow parents to decline the vaccines?

In the US it is up to the parent. Some states will even let the kids go to school (if they apply for exemption) without them.

I would opt to have them spread out as mush as I could. Let their immune system develop some on its own.
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Reply #62 posted 02/16/10 11:50am

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Mach said:

paintedlady said:



You can still express the milk for his feedings... even though it is a chore.
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nod That's what I did



my sister in law used to spray me! OR she would bring me a glass and say "want some milk?" I got her back, I drank it!
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Reply #63 posted 02/16/10 11:56am

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Mach said:

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You can still express the milk for his feedings... even though it is a chore.
hug



nod That's what I did


I did express for a while but was not getting enough out to feed him much. I had a c section and it took a while to get much in and then he was just comforting himself on them so it was not encouraging my body to produce much.
I was just getting an ounce out here and there so I got to the point that it was too time consuming for that little amount.
He was and still is feeding every 2 hrs so it made it hard to have time to express in between.
I did it for as long as I could so hopefully he got some good stuff.
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Reply #64 posted 02/16/10 12:03pm

Mach

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Mach said:




nod That's what I did


I did express for a while but was not getting enough out to feed him much. I had a c section and it took a while to get much in and then he was just comforting himself on them so it was not encouraging my body to produce much.
I was just getting an ounce out here and there so I got to the point that it was too time consuming for that little amount.
He was and still is feeding every 2 hrs so it made it hard to have time to express in between.
I did it for as long as I could so hopefully he got some good stuff.
Oh yeah then - that's not gonna be enough and that's perfectly OK ~ never feel bad hug


I had TONS of milk ...I mean tons mad I had enough to feed 3 babies and it took a LONG time to NOT have milk drips neutral

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Reply #65 posted 02/16/10 12:14pm

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Mach said:

MrsMdiver said:



I did express for a while but was not getting enough out to feed him much. I had a c section and it took a while to get much in and then he was just comforting himself on them so it was not encouraging my body to produce much.
I was just getting an ounce out here and there so I got to the point that it was too time consuming for that little amount.
He was and still is feeding every 2 hrs so it made it hard to have time to express in between.
I did it for as long as I could so hopefully he got some good stuff.
Oh yeah then - that's not gonna be enough and that's perfectly OK ~ never feel bad hug


I had TONS of milk ...I mean tons mad I had enough to feed 3 babies and it took a LONG time to NOT have milk drips neutral

hug



Just like babies, mommies are all different too.
I am just thankful that I healed very quickly from my C-section and was able to get up and down stairs and take care of him myself.

I told the health visitor that he got paired up with the wrong boobs.
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She told me early on that he is a hungry, lazy feeder. I did not believe her at first, it did not take long to realise she was right.
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Reply #66 posted 02/16/10 12:16pm

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I breastfed my daughter and my family was so against it. One of the things I learned was pay attention to her weight etc. As long as she appeared fine, don't worry. My family wanted to start her on soft food at 3 months and she had no interest. By the end of the fourth month she was ready. It's like walking or sitting up etc. I really do believe that each child is different.
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Reply #67 posted 02/16/10 12:31pm

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MrsMdiver said:

MoniGram said:




That's very interesting...WIC here in the States always starts out with rice cereal, but like I said, everyone does things differently. Heck my Mom use to try and get me to add sugar to water and give it to my kids. Not happening Mom. lol



The health visitor here that I spoke to said that there are new studies being done regarding infants that are started on rice cereals early and then fruits & veg later. They are finding a higher percentage of babies with speech issues that start on rice cereals. The theory is that the rice cereals are just a bit thicker than formulas and the babies need more textures to encourage better speech patterns, something to that effect.
Also there is a concern for allergies with giving them rice instead of fruits & veg. She recommended adding some rice cereal to fruits and veggies once they were established and well received, just to thicken them a bit when he is ready for something heavier.

Who knows.
This is my first and only time doing this. Just want to get it right.

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That is so interesting...I love how they find new things all the time. Val, you have to remember my eldest is going to be 24 this year...so I know much has changed. giggle
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Reply #68 posted 02/16/10 12:32pm

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That's very interesting...WIC here in the States always starts out with rice cereal, but like I said, everyone does things differently. Heck my Mom use to try and get me to add sugar to water and give it to my kids. Not happening Mom. lol



omg !!! My mom tried to get me to do that too! Was that a common practice back then?

I did learn a trick though... as my babies started teething, I would put an icecube in the bottle of water/juice in order to calm the gums while they drank.



I think it was. lol My Mom use to say that the babies needed water, and it was best to make it sweet. Well I didn't listen to her. lol
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Reply #69 posted 02/16/10 12:42pm

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When I would go to WIC when I first had my daughter back in "86" they use to tell me putting cereal in the bottle can delay a child's ability to learn to eat with a spoon. So I never did it. I would put my daughter in her bouncing seat, and mix the rice cereal with formula, and made it very thin, like water.

But like it has been said before, everyone does what's best for their child. No way is really the wrong way. If I would go back to some of the things my Mom or Grandmother did back in the day, we would all be thinking what was wrong with those women. lol


I know...and like CarrieAnn just said we're not "supposed" to even start them on any solids till 6 months!! ha! yeah right! I did the very watered down rice cereal with formula by spoon too. The in the bottle thing was a short term solution in a brief window of time. smile My mom told me when I was a baby I couldn't keep any formula down...probably was lactose related or something...well she says my Meme took the bottle, filled it with whole milk and some caro syrup and that's what I drank till I was on solids. omfg stunted my growth though. falloff (j/k about it causing my short-ness)


My Mom use to try and get me to do that when my kids had well "pooping" troubles...she said it worked like a laxative. Funny how things like that were used back then. And my Mom always says..."You are here aren't you? I didn't kill you." lol lol
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Reply #70 posted 02/16/10 12:45pm

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Mach said:

Farmers' Almanac ...

always wean when the signs are in the feet


I switched from breast to bottle around 4-6 months and by 10-12 months they both were 100% on a cup and had very little issue with missing the bottle

we started feeing homemeade mashed foods much younger then medical Dr.s say you're "supposed" to ...

there really is no set "right way" and usually you will know more by listening to yourself and your baby then outside info
best wishes

hug

great advice, right there smile

Ben was on bottles when i went back to work during the day, coz expressing was too hard, with morning an night feeds.
He was on solids as well by then.

gave up the night feed when he was able to drink cows milk (12mths) and morning feed went 2 mths after (no choice, i got sick..dried up!)
still had a bottle of milk morning and night for ages..milk is great for growing bones.

started solids around 3 1/2- 4 mths...rice cereal..then pureed vegies (and custard my sister got him one day while i was at work mad wanted him to get used to savoury before sweets)
i hope that all makes sense, i just woke up lol

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seems that i was busy doing something close to nothing, but different than the day before music beret
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Reply #71 posted 02/16/10 1:03pm

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prb said:

Mach said:

Farmers' Almanac ...

always wean when the signs are in the feet


I switched from breast to bottle around 4-6 months and by 10-12 months they both were 100% on a cup and had very little issue with missing the bottle

we started feeing homemeade mashed foods much younger then medical Dr.s say you're "supposed" to ...

there really is no set "right way" and usually you will know more by listening to yourself and your baby then outside info
best wishes

hug

great advice, right there smile

Ben was on bottles when i went back to work during the day, coz expressing was too hard, with morning an night feeds.
He was on solids as well by then.

gave up the night feed when he was able to drink cows milk (12mths) and morning feed went 2 mths after (no choice, i got sick..dried up!)
still had a bottle of milk morning and night for ages..milk is great for growing bones.

started solids around 3 1/2- 4 mths...rice cereal..then pureed vegies (and custard my sister got him one day while i was at work mad wanted him to get used to savoury before sweets)
i hope that all makes sense, i just woke up lol

hug


I bet he loved the custard. lol

I gave him carrot first before banana because I did not want him to want sweets over savory. He did not want the carrots, loved the banana.
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Reply #72 posted 02/16/10 1:12pm

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MrsMdiver said:

prb said:


great advice, right there smile

Ben was on bottles when i went back to work during the day, coz expressing was too hard, with morning an night feeds.
He was on solids as well by then.

gave up the night feed when he was able to drink cows milk (12mths) and morning feed went 2 mths after (no choice, i got sick..dried up!)
still had a bottle of milk morning and night for ages..milk is great for growing bones.

started solids around 3 1/2- 4 mths...rice cereal..then pureed vegies (and custard my sister got him one day while i was at work mad wanted him to get used to savoury before sweets)
i hope that all makes sense, i just woke up lol

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I bet he loved the custard. lol

I gave him carrot first before banana because I did not want him to want sweets over savory. He did not want the carrots, loved the banana.

yes he did, i walked in the door just as she was feeding it to him .. drool lol

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Reply #73 posted 02/16/10 1:18pm

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I just love watching babies try a new food. The expressions on their faces...so cute! giggle
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Reply #74 posted 02/16/10 2:11pm

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MrsMdiver said:

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I never got off the boob myself...I've got nothing...


Smart man thumbs up!

I was just going to address org mom's but then I did not want to miss out on what the dad's had to say.
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Reply #75 posted 02/16/10 2:15pm

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i mixed rice cereal with breast milk in a bowl..very thin texture at about 4 mos or so when the milk alone was not doing the job ..its so fun first feeding your baby with a spoon..my kids ate more veggies (baby food) as infants than they do now..so when he is ready..introduce all the good veggies and fruits you can!
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Reply #76 posted 02/16/10 8:45pm

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I kinda love the idea of the kid being raised collectively by the org. mr.green
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Reply #77 posted 02/16/10 8:49pm

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My daughters were both eating eggplant parmigiana by 8 months. smile
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Reply #78 posted 02/16/10 8:50pm

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Here in the UK, the infants see the regular GP's for most everything and I have little faith in asking them questions about infants.
The last one that we went to said that babies do not start to teeth until they are at least 6 months old. I know that is not 100% true but I did not argue with her.


WHAAAAT? Some babies teeth at six WEEKS old! It's rare, but it happens. There's no cutoff age for babies to start teething. rolleyes
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Reply #79 posted 02/16/10 9:08pm

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Shit, Nong New is 2 years old and he consumes about 8 cartons of milk per day. He will eat some noodles, rice, little bits of chicken and fish if someone else is eating it and gives him some but in general he basically consumes milk only. He drinks a lot of water too, which is good, but we really need to get him eating more solid food.
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Reply #80 posted 02/16/10 11:02pm

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My daughter was a greedy baby and looked like Winston Churchill at 6 months - ha ha!!

I started her off on Farleys Rusk with warm milk and mashed to a mush and just took it very slowly - maybe one or two teaspoons at a time. She loved apple sauce and chcoclate pudding if I remember correctly!!! Its all just experimenting with what your child will also tolerate as every baby is different. Mashed potato was a great favourite if I remember correctly as well. I used the milk formula until they were 12 months old and then went onto milk. Aso by the time they were 12 months they were on children's cups and the bottles went (thank goodness). You have to go with what the child feels comfortable with as if you push something too early is just stresses you both out. Just a little at a time and you will get there.

Now potty training will be a different matter,,,,, lol lol
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Reply #81 posted 02/17/10 2:25am

MrsMdiver

Thanks for everyone's tips and sharing what they did.

It helps. A few of my dear friends that I would rely on for tips and pointers are back in the states. Two of my closest girlfriends are not huge computer users and are very busy with their children. I do not get to talk to them much especially with the time difference. So, it helps to have the org during times like these.

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Reply #82 posted 02/17/10 4:08am

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Reply #83 posted 02/17/10 9:00am

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I kinda love the idea of the kid being raised collectively by the org. mr.green


omg hmph!

...we would completely ruin any chances for a normal life...
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Reply #84 posted 02/17/10 9:18am

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tackam said:

I kinda love the idea of the kid being raised collectively by the org. mr.green


omg hmph!

...we would completely ruin any chances for a normal life...


Define normal. cool
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Reply #85 posted 02/17/10 9:21am

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MrsMdiver said:

PurpleJedi said:



omg hmph!

...we would completely ruin any chances for a normal life...


Define normal. cool


...the complete opposite of the collective consciousness of the Org!
lol
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Reply #86 posted 02/17/10 9:31am

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Shorty said:

we've talked about this already but....contrary to what paintedlady thinks trying a little cereal in the bottle is NOT just for "a lazy mom who wants a sleepy fat kid" confused in your case...as you've told me he's a big hungry boy who's not too stable sitting up yet and his neck is still a little weak. So I think you could try a little cereal in the bottle. Just to introduce it to him and help satisfy his growing hunger which will help him sleep a bit longer. (that's a good thing..not a bad thing) Other than that I would start experimenting with just a lil bit of the baby cereal mixed with formula or juice or water. Even just a fraction of a spoonfull at first...see if he is repulsed by it or intrigued.
good luck! smile

oop...it seems you've already introduced him to some stuff. smile you're doing great.
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When I would go to WIC when I first had my daughter back in "86" they use to tell me putting cereal in the bottle can delay a child's ability to learn to eat with a spoon. So I never did it. I would put my daughter in her bouncing seat, and mix the rice cereal with formula, and made it very thin, like water.

But like it has been said before, everyone does what's best for their child. No way is really the wrong way. If I would go back to some of the things my Mom or Grandmother did back in the day, we would all be thinking what was wrong with those women. lol


i put a teaspoon in my second son's bottle in the morning and at night
at 3 weeks!!
he was going thru more than a quart(32 ounces) a day of formula and
still seemed hungry.. doctor's couldn't give any reason for it..and it didn't seem to cause any problems with eating from a spoon starting a 4 months either..
but every baby is different..
and he was sleeping from about 11 pm to 7am..
all night..by a month old, and 1 short nap during the day eek
this kid missed nothing..
he's 19 now..
and is 6 feet 3 inches tall.. (taller than either of his parents)
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Reply #87 posted 02/17/10 9:41am

MrsMdiver

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MoniGram said:




When I would go to WIC when I first had my daughter back in "86" they use to tell me putting cereal in the bottle can delay a child's ability to learn to eat with a spoon. So I never did it. I would put my daughter in her bouncing seat, and mix the rice cereal with formula, and made it very thin, like water.

But like it has been said before, everyone does what's best for their child. No way is really the wrong way. If I would go back to some of the things my Mom or Grandmother did back in the day, we would all be thinking what was wrong with those women. lol


i put a teaspoon in my second son's bottle in the morning and at night
at 3 weeks!!
he was going thru more than a quart(32 ounces) a day of formula and
still seemed hungry.. doctor's couldn't give any reason for it..and it didn't seem to cause any problems with eating from a spoon starting a 4 months either..
but every baby is different..
and he was sleeping from about 11 pm to 7am..
all night..by a month old, and 1 short nap during the day eek
this kid missed nothing..
he's 19 now..
and is 6 feet 3 inches tall.. (taller than either of his parents)



Sounds familiar with the amount of food being consumed.

Though we have only had 4 nights so far where he has done more than 5 hrs at night, 3 of those nights he had a cold and did not have much of an appetite.

Now that his appetite has returned, he is doing 3 eight ounce bottles through the night to the morning.
Whenever I have talked to the health visitors about it, they just say, he is a hungry baby and it will change soon.
17 weeks in and I am still waiting for it to slow down.
Somethings gotta give soon, mommy and daddy are tired.
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Reply #88 posted 02/17/10 9:45am

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MoniGram said:




That's very interesting...WIC here in the States always starts out with rice cereal, but like I said, everyone does things differently. Heck my Mom use to try and get me to add sugar to water and give it to my kids. Not happening Mom. lol



omg !!! My mom tried to get me to do that too! Was that a common practice back then?

I did learn a trick though... as my babies started teething, I would put an icecube in the bottle of water/juice in order to calm the gums while they drank.


yep!!!
it was a way for them to get them to drink the water..my mom would do that and i would tell her that she didn't need to he would drink it anyway..
and the cool water/juice stuff does work.. i'm sure it felt good against those gums
my older son started not wanting to drink his formula if it was warmed up.. (both of mine were formula babies..poor things would've starved off me.. giggle )
trying to figure out why he wouldn't was driving me crazy!!!
crazy as it sounds he was drinking it cold from the fridge at about 6 and a half months..i tried to warm it for ten seconds but he just hmph!
and i don't know if its connected to that or not, but he was spitting up less..
it could have had something to do with his age but i'll never know..
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Reply #89 posted 02/17/10 10:11am

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MrsMdiver said:

peb319 said:



i put a teaspoon in my second son's bottle in the morning and at night
at 3 weeks!!
he was going thru more than a quart(32 ounces) a day of formula and
still seemed hungry.. doctor's couldn't give any reason for it..and it didn't seem to cause any problems with eating from a spoon starting a 4 months either..
but every baby is different..
and he was sleeping from about 11 pm to 7am..
all night..by a month old, and 1 short nap during the day eek
this kid missed nothing..
he's 19 now..
and is 6 feet 3 inches tall.. (taller than either of his parents)



Sounds familiar with the amount of food being consumed.

Though we have only had 4 nights so far where he has done more than 5 hrs at night, 3 of those nights he had a cold and did not have much of an appetite.

Now that his appetite has returned, he is doing 3 eight ounce bottles through the night to the morning.
Whenever I have talked to the health visitors about it, they just say, he is a hungry baby and it will change soon.
17 weeks in and I am still waiting for it to slow down.
Somethings gotta give soon, mommy and daddy are tired.
sigh


hug
i remember his doctor saying that he would go on an eating spree around 3
weeks or so..yeah he just never came off it..
after a week of putting a teaspoon of cereal.. in an 8 ounce bottle..
i put it in every one of them for another week..
which didn't seem to change anything so i started making little bowls of it
and feeding him that 3 times a day..
soon it was veggies and some fruits.
and he had a tooth at 5 months also..
somewhere i have video tape of him..
where i ask him if he's 'yessing'
and he would nod his head yes..
on his belly on a blanket holding his head up and when u ask if he's yessing
he would nod eek
but i feel for that sleeping thru the night thing hug
his older brother was sleeping thru at 2 months..and him(Branden) at just over a month.

i also found it strange that Branden( the younger) was not really napping like his older brother had..just one nap a day..
even when i put him down for his naps, he would just entertain himself..til
it was time to get up
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