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Thread started 02/13/10 3:21pm

LazarusHeart

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What happens when U run out of ideas about the future?

I'm not scared of the future. I never have been. But, sometimes I feel like it's nothing more than a hazy horizon out there somewhere that I've yet to reach. I have no clue if there's a city with gleaming lights waiting for me on that horizon or if there is just more endless roads.

Do you ever run out of ideas when you think about your future?
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Reply #1 posted 02/13/10 3:43pm

whistle

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yes. i have outlived any of my youthful plans or projections and i am not really sure what to do with myself now...
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Reply #2 posted 02/13/10 3:47pm

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I know exactly what that feels like.

It's pretty new to me to have any idea about what the future will look like. Other than perhaps a few months out, anyway.

This is the first time in my life I have an idea of what I want the future to look like. It's good and a little scary at the same time. If you don't have a picture, you can always be kind of pleasantly surprised, versus having a goal and possibly failing miserably.

But I don't think I'm gonna fail. I never felt that way much in the past either. lol
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Reply #3 posted 02/13/10 4:41pm

ernestsewell

Life is what happens when you're busying making plans.
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Reply #4 posted 02/13/10 4:46pm

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Well, yes I ran out of ideas two weeks ago when the professor of our faculty basically told me I'm far too psychoanalytically oriented to harbour any occupational prospects there.

Don't know, it really doesn't matter too much after a certain point. Periods of directionlessness seem to be more stressful when you're still in your early 20s or so. After that you just learn that you're going to hit your head against the wall once in a while and have to start all over. I would also be inclined to think that the way most everything in contemporary societies is handled is changing at the moment. Making "long-term" or "rational" decisions might not in all cases pay off in the end.
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Reply #5 posted 02/13/10 6:03pm

Lammastide

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hmmm Some goals are good, but maybe there's a problem in overplanning our lives. We get so fixed on an outcome that may or may not happen that we often overlook the richness of the journey.

It sounds cliché, and I too struggle with things not unfolding exactly as I envision them, but it's not so bad to plan a "skeleton" of sorts, and let life flesh itself out.
Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ
πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν
τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.”
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Reply #6 posted 02/14/10 1:00am

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No. I'm a dreamer and very goal-oriented. I would like to see many things in my future. I always have a good supply of ideas, even strategy. It's the actual step-taking that I struggle with, which slips and slides.

In other words, I can be sorta lazy. smile
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Reply #7 posted 02/14/10 1:00am

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novabrkr said:

Well, yes I ran out of ideas two weeks ago when the professor of our faculty basically told me I'm far too psychoanalytically oriented to harbour any occupational prospects there.


What in the world does it mean to be "too psychoanalytically oriented?"
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Reply #8 posted 02/14/10 8:54am

novabrkr

It means the professor doesn't understand or like psychoanalytic theory, basically.

When you write papers about psychoanalysis and they are actually about psychoanalysis, a lot of people seem to simply get mad. Most often they would just like us to articulate their own types of thoughts, just using Freudian vocabulary. When the content itself is as different as it is, they most often can't relate to it themselves. That's the biggest problem when such things are taught in the literature and philosophy dept.'s. There's only a certain point where you can take it, but once you start talking about what the actual content of the theory is, huge communication conflicts tend to ensue.
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Reply #9 posted 02/14/10 5:02pm

AeonFlux

You start thinking outside of your comfort zone.
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Reply #10 posted 02/14/10 5:48pm

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Once you've reached a certain comfort level with yourself (one that is not forced upon you by society or finance) then you will probably start seeing fewer new ideas and instead focus on fine-tuning current ones.

Think about it: when you're single, all you can think of is meeting and dating someone special who might be "the one". Once you meet that person, all new doors open but many close. Same goes for landing your dream job, having children, etc.

The reward isn't always in finding something new, it's in finding new things to appreciate in what you already have.
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Reply #11 posted 02/14/10 5:50pm

Genesia

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Planet Earth is a good example. disbelief
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Reply #12 posted 02/14/10 5:51pm

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heartbeatocean said:

No. I'm a dreamer and very goal-oriented. I would like to see many things in my future. I always have a good supply of ideas, even strategy. It's the actual step-taking that I struggle with, which slips and slides.

In other words, I can be sorta lazy. smile


When I read this, it sounds like you are contradicting yourself. I don't believe you are a "dreamer" if you are goal-oriented and have stratagies planned out.

I think of "dreamers" as wishing to win a million dollars or marry a celebrity, etc. You're better than that wink
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Reply #13 posted 02/14/10 5:57pm

Superficial

Live for the day and dont worry for the future cool
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Reply #14 posted 02/14/10 7:02pm

heartbeatocean

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novabrkr said:

It means the professor doesn't understand or like psychoanalytic theory, basically.

When you write papers about psychoanalysis and they are actually about psychoanalysis, a lot of people seem to simply get mad. Most often they would just like us to articulate their own types of thoughts, just using Freudian vocabulary. When the content itself is as different as it is, they most often can't relate to it themselves. That's the biggest problem when such things are taught in the literature and philosophy dept.'s. There's only a certain point where you can take it, but once you start talking about what the actual content of the theory is, huge communication conflicts tend to ensue.


Oh, you're talking about being an academic misfit. lol I wish I could understand exactly what you're referring to, but it would probably take a few lectures for me to get it. I studied psychoanalytic theory in college applied to linguistics, cinema and semiotics. And I just recently re-read Dora: An Analysis of a Hysteric
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Reply #15 posted 02/14/10 7:02pm

heartbeatocean

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AeonFlux said:

You start thinking outside of your comfort zone.


exactly! highfive
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Reply #16 posted 02/14/10 7:15pm

heartbeatocean

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Se7en said:

heartbeatocean said:

No. I'm a dreamer and very goal-oriented. I would like to see many things in my future. I always have a good supply of ideas, even strategy. It's the actual step-taking that I struggle with, which slips and slides.

In other words, I can be sorta lazy. smile


When I read this, it sounds like you are contradicting yourself. I don't believe you are a "dreamer" if you are goal-oriented and have stratagies planned out.

I think of "dreamers" as wishing to win a million dollars or marry a celebrity, etc. You're better than that wink


No, I'm definitely a dreamer. I had a practice for a while (and still do it, just not as regularly) where I would DREAM five minutes a day and write down anything that comes to mind. ANYTHING. Sure, I had a few outlandish dreams (collaborating with Madonna), but most of my dreams consisted of owning a house, traveling to Greece, getting paid to be a writer, etc etc. Things that seemed very far away but would come up again and again when I let my imagination run wild.

It's important to keep your dreamer intact, before the realist steps in. The dreamer needs to remain pure and alive and free.

Then later you can bring in the Realist to ask questions, and even doubt. This internal voice, which may sound negative, will help you build a strategy based on action.

Basically, a lack of ideas is a lack of imagination and lack of courage. (sorry!) Because we all have a huge amount of passion buried.

I can honestly say I've realized many dreams in the last few years, fantastic dreams!
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Reply #17 posted 02/14/10 7:57pm

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novabrkr said:

It means the professor doesn't understand or like psychoanalytic theory, basically.

When you write papers about psychoanalysis and they are actually about psychoanalysis, a lot of people seem to simply get mad. Most often they would just like us to articulate their own types of thoughts, just using Freudian vocabulary. When the content itself is as different as it is, they most often can't relate to it themselves. That's the biggest problem when such things are taught in the literature and philosophy dept.'s. There's only a certain point where you can take it, but once you start talking about what the actual content of the theory is, huge communication conflicts tend to ensue.


I recognized all you've said to be true, instantly! The majority of it being fueled largely by insecurity. Psychology is a baby, as fields of study go and they have as yet,barely scratched the surface of what we will learn about the mind and its workings.
Well look whom I found dipping their toe in the murky waters! :eyeroll: At least offer me a damn cup of coffee!
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Reply #18 posted 02/14/10 8:04pm

Mach

Lammastide said:

hmmm Some goals are good, but maybe there's a problem in overplanning our lives. We get so fixed on an outcome that may or may not happen that we often overlook the richness of the journey.

It sounds cliché, and I too struggle with things not unfolding exactly as I envision them, but it's not so bad to plan a "skeleton" of sorts, and let life flesh itself out.
nod yeahthat
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Reply #19 posted 02/14/10 8:06pm

Muse2NoPharaoh

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heartbeatocean said:

Se7en said:



When I read this, it sounds like you are contradicting yourself. I don't believe you are a "dreamer" if you are goal-oriented and have stratagies planned out.

I think of "dreamers" as wishing to win a million dollars or marry a celebrity, etc. You're better than that wink


No, I'm definitely a dreamer. I had a practice for a while (and still do it, just not as regularly) where I would DREAM five minutes a day and write down anything that comes to mind. ANYTHING. Sure, I had a few outlandish dreams (collaborating with Madonna), but most of my dreams consisted of owning a house, traveling to Greece, getting paid to be a writer, etc etc. Things that seemed very far away but would come up again and again when I let my imagination run wild.

It's important to keep your dreamer intact, before the realist steps in. The dreamer needs to remain pure and alive and free.

Then later you can bring in the Realist to ask questions, and even doubt. This internal voice, which may sound negative, will help you build a strategy based on action.

Basically, a lack of ideas is a lack of imagination and lack of courage. (sorry!) Because we all have a huge amount of passion buried.

I can honestly say I've realized many dreams in the last few years, fantastic dreams!


I like the way you think!
Well look whom I found dipping their toe in the murky waters! :eyeroll: At least offer me a damn cup of coffee!
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Reply #20 posted 02/14/10 8:07pm

Muse2NoPharaoh

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Lammastide said:

hmmm Some goals are good, but maybe there's a problem in overplanning our lives. We get so fixed on an outcome that may or may not happen that we often overlook the richness of the journey.

It sounds cliché, and I too struggle with things not unfolding exactly as I envision them, but it's not so bad to plan a "skeleton" of sorts, and let life flesh itself out.


Thats money right there!
Well look whom I found dipping their toe in the murky waters! :eyeroll: At least offer me a damn cup of coffee!
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Reply #21 posted 02/15/10 1:27am

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Muse2NoPharaoh said:

heartbeatocean said:



No, I'm definitely a dreamer. I had a practice for a while (and still do it, just not as regularly) where I would DREAM five minutes a day and write down anything that comes to mind. ANYTHING. Sure, I had a few outlandish dreams (collaborating with Madonna), but most of my dreams consisted of owning a house, traveling to Greece, getting paid to be a writer, etc etc. Things that seemed very far away but would come up again and again when I let my imagination run wild.

It's important to keep your dreamer intact, before the realist steps in. The dreamer needs to remain pure and alive and free.

Then later you can bring in the Realist to ask questions, and even doubt. This internal voice, which may sound negative, will help you build a strategy based on action.

Basically, a lack of ideas is a lack of imagination and lack of courage. (sorry!) Because we all have a huge amount of passion buried.

I can honestly say I've realized many dreams in the last few years, fantastic dreams!


I like the way you think!


highfive Hi, Muse!
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Reply #22 posted 02/15/10 1:31am

Cinnie

Might be slim on options, but never ideas
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Reply #23 posted 02/15/10 1:32am

ZombieKitten

my hazy horizon, or in my case it was always a grey neverending expanse whichever way I look at it, has been there for the last decade now.

I've kind of come to the end of my safety zone now (like the time that I've not HAD to do anything about anything)

now something HAS to happen, I have to MAKE something happen
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Reply #24 posted 02/15/10 1:54am

heartbeatocean

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Cinnie said:

Might be slim on options, but never ideas


well, you know, hip hop was not born in a board meeting lol
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Reply #25 posted 02/15/10 1:54am

heartbeatocean

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ZombieKitten said:

my hazy horizon, or in my case it was always a grey neverending expanse whichever way I look at it, has been there for the last decade now.

I've kind of come to the end of my safety zone now (like the time that I've not HAD to do anything about anything)

now something HAS to happen, I have to MAKE something happen


ooh, juicy! I love hearing stories about teutonic shifts in the soul. nod
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Reply #26 posted 02/15/10 1:57am

ZombieKitten

heartbeatocean said:

ZombieKitten said:

my hazy horizon, or in my case it was always a grey neverending expanse whichever way I look at it, has been there for the last decade now.

I've kind of come to the end of my safety zone now (like the time that I've not HAD to do anything about anything)

now something HAS to happen, I have to MAKE something happen


ooh, juicy! I love hearing stories about teutonic shifts in the soul. nod


I'm right on the precipice!

I just am not quite sure what the thing is going be, but I'm pretty confident it will come to me in a non-spontaneous fashion, but in a kind of I'll be doing it and realise after a couple of times THIS is what I should be doing, like a kind of makes SENSE kind of way? lol
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Reply #27 posted 02/15/10 3:46am

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heartbeatocean said:

ZombieKitten said:

my hazy horizon, or in my case it was always a grey neverending expanse whichever way I look at it, has been there for the last decade now.

I've kind of come to the end of my safety zone now (like the time that I've not HAD to do anything about anything)

now something HAS to happen, I have to MAKE something happen


ooh, juicy! I love hearing stories about teutonic shifts in the soul. nod


Tectonic shifts. Teutonic means German. lol
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Reply #28 posted 02/15/10 4:05am

ernestsewell

The old man said to me
Said don't always take life so seriously
Play the flute
And dance and sing your song

Try and enjoy the here and now
The future will take care of itself somehow
The grass is never greener over there
Time will wear away the stone
Gets the hereditary bone

Don't try to live your life in one day
Don't go speed your time away
Don't try to live your life in one day
Don't go speed your time away

The old man said to me
Said you can't change the world single handedly
Raise a glass enjoy the scenery
Pretend the water is champagne
And fill my glass again and again
While the wolves are gathering round your door
Time will wear away the stone
Gets the hereditary bone

The old man said to me
Said don't always take life so seriously
Play the flute
And dance and sing your song

Try and enjoy the here and now
The future will take care of itself somehow
The grass is never greener over there
Time will wear away the stone
Gets the hereditary bone

I tried to live my life in one day
Don't go speed your time away

I bit off more than I can chew
Only so much you can do

Wolves are gathering round my door
Ask them in and invite some more

I tried to live my life in one day
Don't go speed your time away

Don't try to live your life in one day
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Reply #29 posted 02/15/10 4:08am

ZombieKitten

Genesia said:

heartbeatocean said:



ooh, juicy! I love hearing stories about teutonic shifts in the soul. nod


Tectonic shifts. Teutonic means German. lol


I'm going to be moving to Germany boxed
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