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PrintableNDRU said: uPtoWnNY said: I'm a guy, and I always use Richard Pryor's advice.... "RUN!!!!! And teach your old lady to run, so you don't have to go back and get her ass!" That macho shit only works in action movies. Trying to be a tough guy vs. some fool with a gun will get you killed. oh yeah I would NEVER mess with a gun. Running seems like a good idea, even with a guy with a gun, how many people are really going to shoot you in the back? Lots. But most will miss.  | |
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PunkMistress said: NDRU said: oh yeah I would NEVER mess with a gun. Running seems like a good idea, even with a guy with a gun, how many people are really going to shoot you in the back? Lots. But most will miss.  I guess
I feel most people use guns to threaten and don't actually want to shoot you without a direct confrontation, but then I also believe in unicorns & candyland My Legacy
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PunkMistress said: Yay!
Have her take a RAD course. (Rape Agression Defense) They are totally rad. And you get to beat the shit out of a male cop at the end.  you've signed up for one again haven't you... after your time in lockup...A working class Hero is something to be ~ Lennon |
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it can only be good Mach. 
of course, you know I would say buy her a handgun also, right?  | |
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I want your honest opinions on ... Self Defense classes for young women prior to going off to college yeah nay and your reasons ... Thanx M A thousand times, yay. Safety is an illusion. Airport security, the police, YOUR GOVERNMENT--all these institutions promote this illusion, but it is an illusion none-the-less. And doubly so for women. There is no street you can walk down as a woman--and I don't care were the location is--no hallway, no elevator--no ANYTHING--that is completely safe. A good self-defense class may not make you stronger or more agile--but it will make you more aware . Simple rules like "the second place" in which women (at least the ones I knew who took a specific class in Tampa) where if the person assaulting you tries to force you to go to a second place, you do absolutely everything in your power not to go even if a gun is pointed at you---you will almost certainly die in the 'second place'. Just the fact that these classes help you to think differently and to be more mindful is a benefit. There are just too many college age girls who walk home from 'the bar' often alone, and often without even a passing notion that they are prime targets for burglars, rapists, etc. A thousand times, yes. | |
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TheVoid said: Mach said:
I want your honest opinions on ... Self Defense classes for young women prior to going off to college yeah nay and your reasons ... Thanx M A thousand times, yay. Safety is an illusion. Airport security, the police, YOUR GOVERNMENT--all these institutions promote this illusion, but it is an illusion none-the-less. And doubly so for women. There is no street you can walk down as a woman--and I don't care were the location is--no hallway, no elevator--no ANYTHING--that is completely safe. A good self-defense class may not make you stronger or more agile--but it will make you more aware . Simple rules like "the second place" in which women (at least the ones I knew who took a specific class in Tampa) where if the person assaulting you tries to force you to go to a second place, you do absolutely everything in your power not to go even if a gun is pointed at you---you will almost certainly die in the 'second place'. Just the fact that these classes help you to think differently and to be more mindful is a benefit. There are just too many college age girls who walk home from 'the bar' often alone, and often without even a passing notion that they are prime targets for burglars, rapists, etc. A thousand times, yes. I have never heard of the "second place" rule. Although it seems obvious in retrospect, it's a good thing to know and remember. Thanks! | |
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PunkMistress said: TheVoid said: A thousand times, yay. Safety is an illusion. Airport security, the police, YOUR GOVERNMENT--all these institutions promote this illusion, but it is an illusion none-the-less. And doubly so for women. There is no street you can walk down as a woman--and I don't care were the location is--no hallway, no elevator--no ANYTHING--that is completely safe. A good self-defense class may not make you stronger or more agile--but it will make you more aware . Simple rules like "the second place" in which women (at least the ones I knew who took a specific class in Tampa) where if the person assaulting you tries to force you to go to a second place, you do absolutely everything in your power not to go even if a gun is pointed at you---you will almost certainly die in the 'second place'. Just the fact that these classes help you to think differently and to be more mindful is a benefit. There are just too many college age girls who walk home from 'the bar' often alone, and often without even a passing notion that they are prime targets for burglars, rapists, etc. A thousand times, yes. I have never heard of the "second place" rule. Although it seems obvious in retrospect, it's a good thing to know and remember. Thanks! Yeah, it's not common knowledge for some reason. But statistically, your chances of survival are much higher (Even if they don't seem like it) if you fight like hell at the original scene. The rules are (among others): 1) run away as fast as you can 2) scream and make as much noise as you can 3) fight (which is why you're taught the things you are in defense class) 4) Never go to the second place Women simply don't survive the second place--that's where they kill you. I think all women should be allowed to take these classes for free, and insurance companies should encourage and pay for it. | |
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I had a few of those classes back in highschool, but to be honest the most I can remember is screaming "I DON'T WANT ANY TROUBLE!!!" really loudly.  [...i think i can, i think i can, i think i can...] | |
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TheVoid said: PunkMistress said: I have never heard of the "second place" rule. Although it seems obvious in retrospect, it's a good thing to know and remember. Thanks! Yeah, it's not common knowledge for some reason. But statistically, your chances of survival are much higher (Even if they don't seem like it) if you fight like hell at the original scene. The rules are (among others): 1) run away as fast as you can 2) scream and make as much noise as you can 3) fight (which is why you're taught the things you are in defense class) 4) Never go to the second place Women simply don't survive the second place--that's where they kill you. I think all women should be allowed to take these classes for free, and insurance companies should encourage and pay for it. the 2nd PLACE is bad. (PLACE not paces) [Edited 2/11/10 17:47pm] "Keep on shilling for Big Pharm!" |
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OnlyNDaUsa said: TheVoid said: Yeah, it's not common knowledge for some reason. But statistically, your chances of survival are much higher (Even if they don't seem like it) if you fight like hell at the original scene. The rules are (among others): 1) run away as fast as you can 2) scream and make as much noise as you can 3) fight (which is why you're taught the things you are in defense class) 4) Never go to the second place Women simply don't survive the second place--that's where they kill you. I think all women should be allowed to take these classes for free, and insurance companies should encourage and pay for it. the 2nd paces is bad. what do you mean? | |
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Tell her to take it for sure! Any kind of self defense course is a good idea, especially for a young woman! Ive taken many different ones through my old job and still help out teaching them now. | |
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TheVoid said: OnlyNDaUsa said: the 2nd paces is bad. what do you mean? I meant to say "the 2nd Place is bad" just like said. it is a bad place to be. "Keep on shilling for Big Pharm!" |
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TheVoid said: OnlyNDaUsa said: the 2nd paces is bad. what do you mean? ROACHES ARE SNEAKY, OKAY? | |
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PunkMistress said: TheVoid said: what do you mean? ROACHES ARE SNEAKY, OKAY? A ROACH made me make a typo! "Keep on shilling for Big Pharm!" |
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OnlyNDaUsa said: PunkMistress said: ROACHES ARE SNEAKY, OKAY? A ROACH made me make a typo! Even when they're DEAD they're sneaky! | |
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PunkMistress said: OnlyNDaUsa said: A ROACH made me make a typo! Even when they're DEAD they're sneaky! dipped in chocolate! "Keep on shilling for Big Pharm!" |
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OnlyNDaUsa said: uPtoWnNY said: I'm a guy, and I always use Richard Pryor's advice.... "RUN!!!!! And teach your old lady to run, so you don't have to go back and get her ass!" That macho shit only works in action movies. Trying to be a tough guy vs. some fool with a gun will get you killed. running is great, but you may need to know how to get away I've always heard/read one should run away in a zig-zag pattern -- most shooters would have enough trouble shooting straight on, let alone a diagonally moving target. The check. The string he dropped. The Mona Lisa. The musical notes taken out of a hat. The glass. The toy shotgun painting. The things he found. Therefore, everything seen–every object, that is, plus the process of looking at it–is a Duchamp. | |
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TheVoid said: PunkMistress said: I have never heard of the "second place" rule. Although it seems obvious in retrospect, it's a good thing to know and remember. Thanks! Yeah, it's not common knowledge for some reason. But statistically, your chances of survival are much higher (Even if they don't seem like it) if you fight like hell at the original scene. The rules are (among others): 1) run away as fast as you can 2) scream and make as much noise as you can 3) fight (which is why you're taught the things you are in defense class) 4) Never go to the second place Women simply don't survive the second place--that's where they kill you. I think all women should be allowed to take these classes for free, and insurance companies should encourage and pay for it. I remember seeing an Oprah episode where they talked about that. Your chances of survival drop drastically if your abductor takes you to a second location. The check. The string he dropped. The Mona Lisa. The musical notes taken out of a hat. The glass. The toy shotgun painting. The things he found. Therefore, everything seen–every object, that is, plus the process of looking at it–is a Duchamp. | |
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I'm thinking about doing one of these courses. I'm married to a Thai woman. MY COUSIN WORKS IN A PHARMACY AND SHE SAID THEY ENEMA'D PRANCE INTO OBLIVION WITH FENTONILS!! | |
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My Dad (as well as martial arts movies) taught me self-defense when I was in elementary school. I've never been in a fight, but I wouldn't lose one either, lol."You put water into a cup, it becomes the cup...Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend." - Bruce Lee
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PunkMistress said: Yay!
Cool ... thanx for the tipHave her take a RAD course. (Rape Agression Defense) They are totally rad. And you get to beat the shit out of a male cop at the end. | |
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JerseyKRS said: it can only be good Mach.
of course, you know I would say buy her a handgun also, right?
No guns on campus  | |
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TheVoid said: Mach said:
I want your honest opinions on ... Self Defense classes for young women prior to going off to college yeah nay and your reasons ... Thanx M A thousand times, yay. Safety is an illusion. Airport security, the police, YOUR GOVERNMENT--all these institutions promote this illusion, but it is an illusion none-the-less. And doubly so for women. There is no street you can walk down as a woman--and I don't care were the location is--no hallway, no elevator--no ANYTHING--that is completely safe. A good self-defense class may not make you stronger or more agile--but it will make you more aware . Simple rules like "the second place" in which women (at least the ones I knew who took a specific class in Tampa) where if the person assaulting you tries to force you to go to a second place, you do absolutely everything in your power not to go even if a gun is pointed at you---you will almost certainly die in the 'second place'. Just the fact that these classes help you to think differently and to be more mindful is a benefit. There are just too many college age girls who walk home from 'the bar' often alone, and often without even a passing notion that they are prime targets for burglars, rapists, etc. A thousand times, yes. | |
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TheVoid said: PunkMistress said: I have never heard of the "second place" rule. Although it seems obvious in retrospect, it's a good thing to know and remember. Thanks! Yeah, it's not common knowledge for some reason. But statistically, your chances of survival are much higher (Even if they don't seem like it) if you fight like hell at the original scene. The rules are (among others): 1) run away as fast as you can 2) scream and make as much noise as you can 3) fight (which is why you're taught the things you are in defense class) 4) Never go to the second place Women simply don't survive the second place--that's where they kill you. I think all women should be allowed to take these classes for free, and insurance companies should encourage and pay for it.  | |
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....and ladies, PLEASE, if you're going out drinking with friends, have someone walk, or ride home with you. Remember the Imette St.Guillen & Jennifer Moore cases?
http://en.wikipedia.org/w...t._Guillen [Edited 2/11/10 19:17pm] |
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Mach said: JerseyKRS said: it can only be good Mach.
of course, you know I would say buy her a handgun also, right?
No guns on campus tell that to VA Tech. 
I understand your point, Erin has the same rules at her college. In my honest opinion though Mach, I'd rather get in trouble for having a firearm on campus after an incident instead of being assualted, raped, or murdered. Just two different opinions. | |
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Yay! | |
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JerseyKRS said: Mach said:
No guns on campus tell that to VA Tech.
I understand your point, Erin has the same rules at her college. In my honest opinion though Mach, I'd rather get in trouble for having a firearm on campus after an incident instead of being assualted, raped, or murdered. Just two different opinions. Oh I understand | |
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It is a good idea for any woman to take a self defense course.
Will come in handy in any life threatening situation. Men tend to be stronger and can over power a woman. 
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luv4u said: It is a good idea for any woman to take a self defense course.
Will come in handy in any life threatening situation. Men tend to be stronger and can over power a woman. Not if you shove your thumb directly and hard into their eyeball  | |
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