Fauxie said:

She'll be o.k. with it.

She's a flexbian.

Actually there's an Indian place down the street here that makes the absolute best Vegan Jalfrezi


The Indian places are the best for vegitarian/vegan food. Thais are avid and religious meat eaters. I would imagine even their vegitarian dishes have fish sauce.

Fauxie said:

I'll deal. I don't consume them here and if I have the option, I'd rather not have it, but I'm also realistic enough to understand I won't be able to always know it's not in what I'm eating. With the prevalence in the cuisine there and the langauge barrior, I can live with the fact that it will likely be in many things I eat.

With as many Buddhists as Thailand has, I'm surprised vegetarian diets aren't as popular as they are in, say, India.

TheVoid said:

I'm not a flexbian!!!

I'm a vegetarian who has occasional lapses. Very occasional. Like, 3 times in the last year.

TheVoid said:

A Thai would probably say Oyyyyy bawt khii oeyyy, thong ja la bert, hong-naam yuu nai waa?... Oh, I've got the shits, my stomach's like a bomb, where the khrapin' toilets at?

CarrieMpls said:

Buddhism has no anti-meat eating stance though.

Karma isn't black and white. The act of killing something needs intent factored into it. Killing off the flue virus to save your loved one for example is still killing, but is it necessarily evil? Sad, and involving pain and death yes--but what's the karmic rule behind it?

The meat rule accepted by Buddhist is more or less a scape-goat in my opinion, but it's why buddhist will eat meat.



You simply have to consume meat to get a sense of a very important aspect of Thai culture--their food. Many of their most famous dishes (soups, salads, etc.) have meat or fish sauce in them.

CarrieMpls said:

That's flexerbating!

CarrieMpls said:

They're not spelt phonetically though!

Here's the veggie one more phonetically, as close as can be expected

Chun gin jay. Garoona ham sigh nure sutt ka

TheVoid said:

Except for the muslims, but then in most cases isn't that just once a year and only pork they don't eat?

I imagine it's very tricky to get Thai meals without anything sourced from animals at regular Thai restaurants and street stalls.

TheVoid said:

People could say the same about America (meat is all americans eat!), and I would thoroughly disagree, though.

And I really can't eat it anymore. It pretty much disgusts me. I can deal with the idea of fish sauce in everything (though I'd rather avoid it) but I couldn't eat, like, a piece of chicken anymore.

There are PLENTY of Thai dishes that are and can be made without meat.

CarrieMpls said:

I made raw vegan versions of Thai dishes without meat.


Your street vendor.... will not.

You can't avoid meat here.

Fauxie said:

You can't.
And only some of the more upscale coffee shops even have soy milk, even though soy milk is found in every 7-11 here and is very popular.

But the Indian restaurants seem to all have vegitarian options on their menus.

I'm trying to swap back over to vegitarian/vegan ...actually 'flexitarian' eating again, but navigating my options is tricky. Hopefully when I sell my house in Florida I can get a condo here with a full kitchen and I can go back to mostly raw veganism.

TheVoid said:

I can too avoid meat. I'll just have to choose carefully. If I have to shop for and prepare my own food a lot of the time, that's fine too. Like I said, I can understand the fish and oyster sauce thing, but getting food without chunks of meat in it shouldn't be that hard. And if I have to look a little longer, that's OK too.

CarrieMpls said:

You'llb e nawing on ribs by the end of your trip.








Besides yall this is NOT about what goes into Carrie's mouth, but about what comes out of that really long tube attached to her mouth and exiting the other end. (getting back on track )

TheVoid said:

Thais love their meat.

TheVoid said:

psst. There are all kinds of articles available about how to eat veggie very easily in Thailand.

Here's my first one found:
http://www.thebackpacker....iland/147/

In the comments, someone even tells you how to order everything vegan.

TheVoid said:

I imagine if you go to a regular gap khao or noodle stall and ask for it done vegetarian they won't even think about not putting stuff like fish or oyster sauce in, or may even think about it and still put it in because they won't want to compromise the taste. Also, I can picture them not giving you the meat parts of the dish, but if those have been swimming in the big pot there's plenty of oil from the meat in the broth anyway.

I can see that in Sukhumwit it might not be so difficult, eating at Indian places or going for south Thailand food.

CarrieMpls said:

GurrLLLL, you'll be nawwin' on reeebss.

Fauxie said:

There's a vegitarian place about a kilo from here (10 minutes on foot) that is Chinese I think. I've been meaning to check it out.

There's all sorts of vegetarian places hidden in minor sois all over. But they're not food 'stalls'...they're sit and eat restaurants. I'll go check this one out this weekend. I haven't had any vegetarian dishes that weren't delicious here, though I'm highly suspicious of the purity of the vegetarian foods in lieu of fish sauce.
I didn't taste any fish sauce in one dish though--it seemed they replaced it with semame oil (which was tasty).


I think Carrie will be nawing on ribs. And I'll have my camera ready.

Fauxie said:

I love throwing them my meat.

CarrieMpls said:

Cool! Careful trusting these articles though.




Trouble is, often the condiments are just there to add to what's already in the dish, per your taste.



Probably doomed to fail, using the word 'tae' like that.

As one of the comments says, it's easier to use 'jay' as in 'chun gin jay' (I eat veggie) or throw it on the end of a dish name like 'khao phad jay', 'som tam jay' etc. - it's easy to pronounce and easily understood.

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TheVoid said:

If you are going to eat meat, knowing your tastes, I'd recommend TGM (Thai-German Meat)

TheVoid said:

There's a vegetarian place in the food court in Platinum that Mon used to order from when she was dieting. I ate from there a few times. Lawd am I sick of phad phak ruamit though.

I ate a salad for breakfast. At the moment I eat salad 5 or 6 times a week because though I could stand to gain a few pounds I'm just trying to keep things light and let my body recover from alcohol and too much fat.

Fauxie said:

We really need to work on our org popularity again so we can have
a proper bangkok invasion.

I know Aksel is here in Thailand but let's face it--he's not popular.


what say you?

TheVoid said:

I agree, he's not popular.

Oh wait, you were asking for my thoughts on a Bangkok invasion.

Yes! Absolutely. Khrungthep Mahanakorn got it going on 'til the breaka dawn.



But yes, we need to up our game and tempt some people out here.

Fauxie said:

I'm going to Fiji and Europe instead now

ZombieKitten said:

That's ok. There are some pretty cool second-tier orgers in Europe.

I refuse to pay more than a dollar for shit paper.

Thank God for Family Dollar. 6 rolls for a dollar. That's what I'm talkin' 'bout.

Fauxie said:

Aksel will be back in europe by then, is that what you mean?

When you wipe the way I do, it doesn't really matter what you use.