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Michael Irvin accused of rape; No charges filed | |
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I would not put it past him. But the fact it took place in 2007 and no criminal charges were filed makes it harder for her to prove. Still don't mean it didn't happen tho especially since him and his lawyers have been negotiating a settlement for months. | |
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SCNDLS said: I would not put it past him. But the fact it took place in 2007 and no criminal charges were filed makes it harder for her to prove. Still don't mean it didn't happen tho especially since him and his lawyers have been negotiating a settlement for months.
Let say it happened.....why wait so long 2 report it? | |
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Graycap23 said: SCNDLS said: I would not put it past him. But the fact it took place in 2007 and no criminal charges were filed makes it harder for her to prove. Still don't mean it didn't happen tho especially since him and his lawyers have been negotiating a settlement for months.
Let say it happened.....why wait so long 2 report it? I don't think she waited two years, did she? I think this has been going on for awhile. | |
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SCNDLS said: Graycap23 said: Let say it happened.....why wait so long 2 report it? I don't think she waited two years, did she? I think this has been going on for awhile. It was reported in 2007. Why has it dragged on so long? It was reported to Seminole police on July 20, 2007, Seminole Tribe spokesman Gary Bitner said. ``They investigated it thoroughly,'' Bitner said. ``Although by that time there was no longer any forensic evidence or surveillance video.'' | |
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Graycap23 said: SCNDLS said: I would not put it past him. But the fact it took place in 2007 and no criminal charges were filed makes it harder for her to prove. Still don't mean it didn't happen tho especially since him and his lawyers have been negotiating a settlement for months.
Let say it happened.....why wait so long 2 report it? So playing along and saying it happened, why does it matter how long it took to report it? | |
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Graycap23 said: SCNDLS said: I don't think she waited two years, did she? I think this has been going on for awhile. It was reported in 2007. Why has it dragged on so long? It was reported to Seminole police on July 20, 2007, Seminole Tribe spokesman Gary Bitner said. ``They investigated it thoroughly,'' Bitner said. ``Although by that time there was no longer any forensic evidence or surveillance video.'' Again, lack of evidence doesn't mean it didn't happen. | |
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SCNDLS said: Graycap23 said: It was reported in 2007. Why has it dragged on so long? It was reported to Seminole police on July 20, 2007, Seminole Tribe spokesman Gary Bitner said. ``They investigated it thoroughly,'' Bitner said. ``Although by that time there was no longer any forensic evidence or surveillance video.'' Again, lack of evidence doesn't mean it didn't happen. Fine.....but how does one prove this case? | |
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JustErin said: Graycap23 said: Let say it happened.....why wait so long 2 report it? So playing along and saying it happened, why does it matter how long it took to report it? How would u prove a rape from 2 or 3 years ago with no evidence? | |
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http://www.miamiherald.co...63608.html
Although no criminal charges have been filed, the Broward State Attorney's Office has been looking into the case and is expected to reach a conclusion next week, said spokesman Ron Ishoy. The woman said the attack happened in 2007, in the late hours of July 4 or early July 5. The suit doesn't name the woman, referring to her as Jane Doe. Irvin's lawyer, Larry Friedman, called the accusations ``totally untrue.'' When asked to describe her contact with Irvin, Friedman said, ``Beyond, perhaps, meeting her, there was nothing.'' In the suit, the woman said Irvin bought her alcohol to get her drunk, then lured her to his hotel room. That's where he and another man tried stuffing money into her clothes, the suit said. She said Irvin and the other man insisted on sexual favors. She said no. That's when the unidentified man held her down and covered her mouth, according to the suit, then Irvin raped her, she said. When Irvin was done, the other man forced her to perform oral sex. Afterward, Irvin's brother, Derrick Irvin, came in and took her to another room and ``assisted in covering the sexual assault and rape up,'' according to the civil lawsuit. The one man is unidentified because the woman doesn't know who he is, said her lawyer, David Lister. It was reported to Seminole police on July 20, 2007, Seminole Tribe spokesman Gary Bitner said. ``They investigated it thoroughly,'' Bitner said. ``Although by that time there was no longer any forensic evidence or surveillance video.'' A day later, the woman signed a waiver of prosecution, which Bitner attributed to ``her desire to essentially put it behind her and not have it be splashed all over the newspapers.'' Bitner said the tribe turned over its findings to Broward prosecutors. The woman's lawyer, Lister, said he had no comment about the Seminole police investigation. He said his client had passed a polygraph test. Lister also said his client and Irvin's counsel had been in negotiations for a financial settlement, but those talks stalled, prompting the lawsuit filed three days before the Super Bowl is being played in Miami. | |
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Graycap23 said: SCNDLS said: Again, lack of evidence doesn't mean it didn't happen. Fine.....but how does one prove this case? Who negotiates to pay someone for a rape if they're innocent? | |
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SCNDLS said: Graycap23 said: Fine.....but how does one prove this case? Who negotiates to pay someone for a rape if they're innocent? Cheaper than a scandal. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Still it's nice to know, when our bodies wear out, we can get another -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- | |
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Dauphin said: SCNDLS said: Who negotiates to pay someone for a rape if they're innocent? Cheaper than a scandal. Which he STILL has to deal with now. Still don't make sense to me, especially with his record, to pay off for a RAPE, which tells me this escapade prolly DID happen. This is totally his MO, always has been. | |
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Graycap23 said: JustErin said: So playing along and saying it happened, why does it matter how long it took to report it? How would u prove a rape from 2 or 3 years ago with no evidence? I don't think it's wise to just assume that there is no evidence because it's 2 or 3 years later. People report things years later all the time, including murder, should they not bother because it's something that happened years ago? Of course not, that's ridiculous. I dunno, rape shouldn't be looked at any differently or looked at with cynical glasses just because the alleged victim didn’t report it right away. | |
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SCNDLS said: Graycap23 said: Fine.....but how does one prove this case? Who negotiates to pay someone for a rape if they're innocent? U serious? I'm not saying it did or did not happen but u know the drama celebs and people with $$ go thru. | |
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Reporting a rape years after the incident doesn't mean the person who's being accused is innocent. Albeit, it doesn't mean there's any evidence either.
I look at it this way--the victim is often traumatized. The victim feels often powerless. And the victim is often still very fearful of the rapist. It took 20+ years to for victims to report Catholic priests of rape. However, her reporting the rape may or may not be successful. But, if indeed he misbehaved (for lack of a better word right now), then it may be just what's needed for others to come out of the woodwork. It waits to be seen what will come of this case. You never know what's going to happen--never in a million years did I think OJ was going to walk, but he did. | |
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Has the Kobe case taught u anything? | |
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Graycap23 said: Has the Kobe case taught u anything?
You really should direct that question to these MARRIED athletes who continue to pick up chicks and take 'em to their hotel rooms. In that regard the answer is a resounding NO. | |
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