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Reply #30 posted 01/28/10 1:43pm

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SCNDLS said:

DesireeNevermind said:




that's crazy. having cancer in one's family is no guarantee that one will get cancer themselves. lemme guess...she's getting her breasts removed and replacing them with a nice set of implants. I've heard in some cases insurance will cover cosmetic surgery if cancer is involved. kind of like the free rhinoplasty if you say you have a deviated septum. I'm not saying this is the case each and every time but for this to turn into some sort of trend is disturbing to say the least. I mean damn, no sign of cancer or if there is a sign, they aren't going to bother with chemo? confused

When women do this it's not JUST the cancer running in the family that is the issue. There are MANY factors combined that increase your chances exponentially besides JUST having it in your family. If all those factors add up against you, you are likely to get breast cancer that is more virulent and harder to fight unless you take drastic, preemptive measures.

Like I said, BOTH of Rene's parents had breast cancer and she had a host of other signs that left her real boobs chopped up to hell from all the biopsies. There's also a psychological component to consider when all these variables are present. Plus, when a woman's father has breast cancer that is a HUGE negative in her odds and is compounded by her mother also getting it. Under these kinds of circumstances, they could have my titties on a platter vs. me taking a wait and see and be constantly stressed out approach.



I'm worried though that this would be the first option and that women would be encouraged by their doctors to go this route over other therapies. I expect if it's the only guarantee then maybe they would. It's all quite scary. It's a shame the exact cause is still unknown. And dayum the risk factors are insane. They now say that starting menstruation early and having it end early are contributing factors. disbelief
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Reply #31 posted 01/28/10 1:44pm

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SCNDLS said:

DesireeNevermind said:




that's crazy. having cancer in one's family is no guarantee that one will get cancer themselves. lemme guess...she's getting her breasts removed and replacing them with a nice set of implants. I've heard in some cases insurance will cover cosmetic surgery if cancer is involved. kind of like the free rhinoplasty if you say you have a deviated septum. I'm not saying this is the case each and every time but for this to turn into some sort of trend is disturbing to say the least. I mean damn, no sign of cancer or if there is a sign, they aren't going to bother with chemo? confused

When women do this it's not JUST the cancer running in the family that is the issue. There are MANY factors combined that increase your chances exponentially besides JUST having it in your family. If all those factors add up against you, you are likely to get breast cancer that is more virulent and harder to fight unless you take drastic, preemptive measures.

Like I said, BOTH of Rene's parents had breast cancer and she had a host of other signs that left her real boobs chopped up to hell from all the biopsies. There's also a psychological component to consider when all these variables are present. Plus, when a woman's father has breast cancer that is a HUGE negative in her odds and is compounded by her mother also getting it. Under these kinds of circumstances, they could have my titties on a platter vs. me taking a wait and see and be constantly stressed out approach.



nod She's correct. I'm a survivor. Went through countless biopsies and finally was diagnosed with a very rare form of BC back in '96. I had one removed with reconstruction. There was never a history of cancer in my family except for my daddy who died of lung cancer. However, I was diagnosed years before he was.
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Reply #32 posted 01/28/10 1:50pm

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Shyra said:

SCNDLS said:


When women do this it's not JUST the cancer running in the family that is the issue. There are MANY factors combined that increase your chances exponentially besides JUST having it in your family. If all those factors add up against you, you are likely to get breast cancer that is more virulent and harder to fight unless you take drastic, preemptive measures.

Like I said, BOTH of Rene's parents had breast cancer and she had a host of other signs that left her real boobs chopped up to hell from all the biopsies. There's also a psychological component to consider when all these variables are present. Plus, when a woman's father has breast cancer that is a HUGE negative in her odds and is compounded by her mother also getting it. Under these kinds of circumstances, they could have my titties on a platter vs. me taking a wait and see and be constantly stressed out approach.



nod She's correct. I'm a survivor. Went through countless biopsies and finally was diagnosed with a very rare form of BC back in '96. I had one removed with reconstruction. There was never a history of cancer in my family except for my daddy who died of lung cancer. However, I was diagnosed years before he was.



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Reply #33 posted 01/28/10 2:21pm

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DesireeNevermind said:

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nod She's correct. I'm a survivor. Went through countless biopsies and finally was diagnosed with a very rare form of BC back in '96. I had one removed with reconstruction. There was never a history of cancer in my family except for my daddy who died of lung cancer. However, I was diagnosed years before he was.



hug


Thanks, sweetie!
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Reply #34 posted 01/28/10 4:10pm

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Mach said:

to prevent breast cancer possibilities ...

eek

I understand it on one hand ... BUT

what do you think about it ?


They're f***ing idiots (IMDHO). disbelief

What's next, men cut off their penises to prevent prostate cancer possibilities?!? WTF?

Women need to have the courage to fight breast cancer to the bitter end if necessary. But good grief, don't get rid of the breasts. Women wouldn't be the same without their puppies, and they know it.


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Reply #35 posted 01/28/10 4:15pm

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TonyVanDam said:

What's next, men cut off their penises to prevent prostate cancer possibilities?!? WTF?


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Reply #36 posted 01/28/10 4:17pm

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I understand it, I have a strong BC history and 2 daughters, we all have very dense breasts, fibrous and full. My birth grandmother died of breast cancer when my birth mom was 12 which put her in her late 30's or early 40's when she died. I had a cousin who had 3 kids, breast fed them all and died of breast cancer at 31. My birth mom is a survivor she was 50 when she was diagnosed and had a double mast for precaution and got implants. So if I have the counseling and something turns up I may consider this procedure. They are breasts and I love them but I can get some more, and bigger lol As for my life, well I can't be replaced and I would rather be here with implants than not at all. nod


Amazing story. What good is any of it if you lose your life. Having breasts, natural or not, does not make you a woman but they certainly do make you "feel" like one. wink
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Reply #37 posted 01/28/10 5:58pm

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TonyVanDam said:

Mach said:

to prevent breast cancer possibilities ...

eek

I understand it on one hand ... BUT

what do you think about it ?


They're f***ing idiots (IMDHO). disbelief

What's next, men cut off their penises to prevent prostate cancer possibilities?!? WTF?

Women need to have the courage to fight breast cancer to the bitter end if necessary. But good grief, don't get rid of the breasts. Women wouldn't be the same without their puppies, and they know it.



rolleyes Now, I shoulda stopped reading this dumb shit with the first sentence since, penises and prostates are the same thing an' all. hah!
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Reply #38 posted 01/28/10 6:05pm

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Genesia said:

SCNDLS said:


When women do this it's not JUST the cancer running in the family that is the issue. There are MANY factors combined that increase your chances exponentially besides JUST having it in your family. If all those factors add up against you, you are likely to get breast cancer that is more virulent and harder to fight unless you take drastic, preemptive measures.

Like I said, BOTH of Rene's parents had breast cancer and she had a host of other signs that left her real boobs chopped up to hell from all the biopsies. There's also a psychological component to consider when all these variables are present. Plus, when a woman's father has breast cancer that is a HUGE negative in her odds and is compounded by her mother also getting it. Under these kinds of circumstances, they could have my titties on a platter vs. me taking a wait and see and be constantly stressed out approach.


Well said.

I mean...does anyone actually believe these women just woke up one morning and said, "Gee...what should I do today? I know! I'll get my breasts removed. Just...you know...on the off-chance that I might get cancer." This has to be a gut-wrenching decision - and definitely not one that is made lightly.
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Exactly! And it happens in very rare cases when there's an almost definite chance they'll get breast cancer. Like both parents had it. I know someone who's mother, an aunt, and two sisters died from BC. If I was her I'd be having surgery tomorrow. My life is more valuable than some boobs.
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Reply #39 posted 01/28/10 6:09pm

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TonyVanDam said:

Mach said:

to prevent breast cancer possibilities ...

eek

I understand it on one hand ... BUT

what do you think about it ?


They're f***ing idiots (IMDHO). disbelief

What's next, men cut off their penises to prevent prostate cancer possibilities?!? WTF?

Women need to have the courage to fight breast cancer to the bitter end if necessary. But good grief, don't get rid of the breasts. Women wouldn't be the same without their puppies, and they know it.


This is the stupidest shit I have ever read on the org.

my grandmother had breast cancer and since my mother died at 43, i don't know if she would have developed it or not. if i get tested and they tell me there is a chance i could get it, off they go. They are tits. Bags of fat. If a man can't love a woman without them, fuck his punk ass.
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Reply #40 posted 01/28/10 6:11pm

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DesireeNevermind said:

SCNDLS said:


When women do this it's not JUST the cancer running in the family that is the issue. There are MANY factors combined that increase your chances exponentially besides JUST having it in your family. If all those factors add up against you, you are likely to get breast cancer that is more virulent and harder to fight unless you take drastic, preemptive measures.

Like I said, BOTH of Rene's parents had breast cancer and she had a host of other signs that left her real boobs chopped up to hell from all the biopsies. There's also a psychological component to consider when all these variables are present. Plus, when a woman's father has breast cancer that is a HUGE negative in her odds and is compounded by her mother also getting it. Under these kinds of circumstances, they could have my titties on a platter vs. me taking a wait and see and be constantly stressed out approach.



I'm worried though that this would be the first option and that women would be encouraged by their doctors to go this route over other therapies. I expect if it's the only guarantee then maybe they would. It's all quite scary. It's a shame the exact cause is still unknown. And dayum the risk factors are insane. They now say that starting menstruation early and having it end early are contributing factors. disbelief

I don't think that would be a first option cuz so many women are adamant they want to keep their breasts. That's why prophylactic mastectomies are still so rare. Doctors only bring this up after weighing ALL the factors and that genetic testing is a biggie and a pretty good indicator of breast cancer.
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Reply #41 posted 01/28/10 6:11pm

Mach

TonyVanDam said:



What's next, men cut off their penises to prevent prostate cancer possibilities?!? WTF?



My husband and I are prostate cancer survivors ~ this statement is beyond silly - the penis has nothing to do with prostate cancer really

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Reply #42 posted 01/28/10 6:22pm

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Shyra said:

SCNDLS said:


When women do this it's not JUST the cancer running in the family that is the issue. There are MANY factors combined that increase your chances exponentially besides JUST having it in your family. If all those factors add up against you, you are likely to get breast cancer that is more virulent and harder to fight unless you take drastic, preemptive measures.

Like I said, BOTH of Rene's parents had breast cancer and she had a host of other signs that left her real boobs chopped up to hell from all the biopsies. There's also a psychological component to consider when all these variables are present. Plus, when a woman's father has breast cancer that is a HUGE negative in her odds and is compounded by her mother also getting it. Under these kinds of circumstances, they could have my titties on a platter vs. me taking a wait and see and be constantly stressed out approach.



nod She's correct. I'm a survivor. Went through countless biopsies and finally was diagnosed with a very rare form of BC back in '96. I had one removed with reconstruction. There was never a history of cancer in my family except for my daddy who died of lung cancer. However, I was diagnosed years before he was.

hug That's some tough stuff.

I just found out today my best friend's mother-in-law, who tells everyone I'm her daughter, has cancer in her lymph nodes and in her pelvic bone. The crazy part is she went in about 4 months ago complaining about discomfort in her abdomen and they were like, we're going in today. They found a cancerous tumor the size of grapefruit. When they asked her who her gyno was she said she didn't have one. shocked

Really, WTF??? So basically this mess coulda been caught at an annual exam. She did her chemo and 3 weeks ago they told her she was cancer free. Then last friday she goes in with pain, and we find out today about it spreading to her nodes and bones, possible stage 3. disbelief
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Reply #43 posted 01/28/10 6:27pm

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Vendetta1 said:

This is the stupidest shit I have ever read on the org.

my grandmother had breast cancer and since my mother died at 43, i don't know if she would have developed it or not. if i get tested and they tell me there is a chance i could get it, off they go. They are tits. Bags of fat. If a man can't love a woman without them, fuck his punk ass.


I'm calling them "bags of fat" from now on. nod
batting eyes ACRYLIC batting eyes
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I only do things for fun.

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Reply #44 posted 01/28/10 6:30pm

SCNDLS

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Vendetta1 said:

TonyVanDam said:



They're f***ing idiots (IMDHO). disbelief

What's next, men cut off their penises to prevent prostate cancer possibilities?!? WTF?

Women need to have the courage to fight breast cancer to the bitter end if necessary. But good grief, don't get rid of the breasts. Women wouldn't be the same without their puppies, and they know it.


This is the stupidest shit I have ever read on the org.

my grandmother had breast cancer and since my mother died at 43, i don't know if she would have developed it or not. if i get tested and they tell me there is a chance i could get it, off they go. They are tits. Bags of fat. If a man can't love a woman without them, fuck his punk ass.

nod And that's saying a WHOLE lot. confused
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Reply #45 posted 01/29/10 11:09am

TonyVanDam

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Vendetta1 said:

TonyVanDam said:



They're f***ing idiots (IMDHO). disbelief

What's next, men cut off their penises to prevent prostate cancer possibilities?!? WTF?

Women need to have the courage to fight breast cancer to the bitter end if necessary. But good grief, don't get rid of the breasts. Women wouldn't be the same without their puppies, and they know it.


This is the stupidest shit I have ever read on the org.

my grandmother had breast cancer and since my mother died at 43, i don't know if she would have developed it or not. if i get tested and they tell me there is a chance i could get it, off they go. They are tits. Bags of fat. If a man can't love a woman without them, fuck his punk ass.


rolleyes

1. THIS thread is about women getting their breasts cut-off BEFORE finding out if they even have cancer at all. THAT is the real stupid shit idea.

2. Breasts are not just "bags of fat". Breasts are very special body parts AND symbols that made women very special life forms. cool
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Reply #46 posted 01/29/10 11:10am

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Mach said:

TonyVanDam said:



What's next, men cut off their penises to prevent prostate cancer possibilities?!? WTF?



My husband and I are prostate cancer survivors ~ this statement is beyond silly - the penis has nothing to do with prostate cancer really

confused


I know that. I'm just saying that people cutting off their body parts without checking to see if they even have cancer at all is just crazy.
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Reply #47 posted 01/29/10 11:12am

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futurebaybeemama said:

butterfli25 said:

I understand it, I have a strong BC history and 2 daughters, we all have very dense breasts, fibrous and full. My birth grandmother died of breast cancer when my birth mom was 12 which put her in her late 30's or early 40's when she died. I had a cousin who had 3 kids, breast fed them all and died of breast cancer at 31. My birth mom is a survivor she was 50 when she was diagnosed and had a double mast for precaution and got implants. So if I have the counseling and something turns up I may consider this procedure. They are breasts and I love them but I can get some more, and bigger lol As for my life, well I can't be replaced and I would rather be here with implants than not at all. nod


Amazing story. What good is any of it if you lose your life. Having breasts, natural or not, does not make you a woman but they certainly do make you "feel" like one. wink
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hmmm
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Reply #48 posted 01/29/10 11:16am

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Vendetta1 said:

This is the stupidest shit I have ever read on the org.

my grandmother had breast cancer and since my mother died at 43, i don't know if she would have developed it or not. if i get tested and they tell me there is a chance i could get it, off they go. They are tits. Bags of fat. If a man can't love a woman without them, fuck his punk ass.


...says the woman who wants at least 9 inches from her men. evillol
everyone's a fruit & nut case
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Reply #49 posted 01/29/10 11:19am

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whistle said:

Vendetta1 said:

This is the stupidest shit I have ever read on the org.

my grandmother had breast cancer and since my mother died at 43, i don't know if she would have developed it or not. if i get tested and they tell me there is a chance i could get it, off they go. They are tits. Bags of fat. If a man can't love a woman without them, fuck his punk ass.


...says the woman who wants at least 9 inches from her men. evillol


Did she say that? I thought it was "7 inches or more" like Vanity 6. I just want to know so that I can start catching the 8+ mens that fall out of favor.
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Reply #50 posted 01/29/10 11:41am

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whistle said:

Vendetta1 said:

This is the stupidest shit I have ever read on the org.

my grandmother had breast cancer and since my mother died at 43, i don't know if she would have developed it or not. if i get tested and they tell me there is a chance i could get it, off they go. They are tits. Bags of fat. If a man can't love a woman without them, fuck his punk ass.


...says the woman who wants at least 9 inches from her men. evillol


Thank you for called Vendetta out for being hypocritical. lol
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Reply #51 posted 01/29/10 11:52am

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TonyVanDam said:

Vendetta1 said:

This is the stupidest shit I have ever read on the org.

my grandmother had breast cancer and since my mother died at 43, i don't know if she would have developed it or not. if i get tested and they tell me there is a chance i could get it, off they go. They are tits. Bags of fat. If a man can't love a woman without them, fuck his punk ass.


rolleyes

1. THIS thread is about women getting their breasts cut-off BEFORE finding out if they even have cancer at all. THAT is the real stupid shit idea.

2. Breasts are not just "bags of fat". Breasts are very special body parts AND symbols that made women very special life forms. cool
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I know you don't like the word "retard" vendetta but here I make my case...
"not a fan" falloff yeah...ok
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Reply #52 posted 01/29/10 11:57am

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Shorty said:

TonyVanDam said:



rolleyes

1. THIS thread is about women getting their breasts cut-off BEFORE finding out if they even have cancer at all. THAT is the real stupid shit idea.

2. Breasts are not just "bags of fat". Breasts are very special body parts AND symbols that made women very special life forms. cool
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I know you don't like the word "retard" vendetta but here I make my case...


Oh piss off (and BTW, thank you for showing your prejudice beforehand). rolleyes You're just hating because I'm in favor of trying to save women from cutting off their breasts if it isn't necessary.

And I stand by my opinion that it's crazy for anyone to be cut-off breasts without even bother to find out if they have cancer at all first.
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Reply #53 posted 01/29/10 1:11pm

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TonyVanDam said:

Shorty said:



I know you don't like the word "retard" vendetta but here I make my case...


Oh piss off (and BTW, thank you for showing your prejudice beforehand). rolleyes You're just hating because I'm in favor of trying to save women from cutting off their breasts if it isn't necessary.

And I stand by my opinion that it's crazy for anyone to be cut-off breasts without even bother to find out if they have cancer at all first.
cool

falloff
you really are.
no...I'm "hating" (further proof) because if you bothered to read many of the posts...or if you could read at all, you'd see that NO ONE...is making a case for cutting off breasts with out even "bothering" to find out if they have cancer at all first. Comments like "Women wouldn't be the same without their puppies, and they know it." are RETARDED!
"not a fan" falloff yeah...ok
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Reply #54 posted 01/29/10 1:14pm

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I just LOVE it when someone sends me an orgnote...then chicken out and deletes it before I get a chance to read it.
"not a fan" falloff yeah...ok
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Reply #55 posted 01/29/10 2:37pm

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Between both sides of my family 7 women died of breast cancer and 2 survived. I underwent genetic testing 14 years ago. There might well be a great big C on my DNA. Faced with that information and having gone through several scares I made the choice to have a prophylactic radical mastectomy. Cut those bitches off and got me a new pair! Yes surgery has plenty of risk but I was looking at a lifetime of risk. It was an easy decision. One I have never regretted.
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Reply #56 posted 01/29/10 2:42pm

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Mach said:

to prevent breast cancer possibilities ...

eek

I understand it on one hand ... BUT

what do you think about it ?




my friend who had mother and sister die of breast cancer wasted no time in getting a double mastectomy.
I can understand that nod
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Reply #57 posted 01/29/10 2:44pm

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Genesia said:

My cousin's wife was diagnosed a couple years with cancer in one breast. They could have just done a lumpectomy with follow-up radiation and chemo. But she decided that, based on her family history and the fact that the kinds of cancers that occur in younger women tend to be more aggressive, she would go for a double mastectomy, hardcore radiation and chemo, and reconstruction afterward.

She is cancer free now - and we all hope she stays that way.


pray and I say good on her! clapping
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Reply #58 posted 01/29/10 2:50pm

Vendetta1

whistle said:

Vendetta1 said:

This is the stupidest shit I have ever read on the org.

my grandmother had breast cancer and since my mother died at 43, i don't know if she would have developed it or not. if i get tested and they tell me there is a chance i could get it, off they go. They are tits. Bags of fat. If a man can't love a woman without them, fuck his punk ass.


...says the woman who wants at least 9 inches from her men. evillol
confused

I won't go back and quote myself from that thread but I do not see how what I said has any bearing on the stupid comment made by Tony. A man's dick is not the end all be all for me and if a guy I was seeing decided he was going to have it removed to avoid getting cancer, I would support him 100%.

I've gone years at time without sex voluntarily so guess what? I could not give a damn about dick size. Perhaps you and Tony should re-read what I said
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Reply #59 posted 01/29/10 2:54pm

Vendetta1

TonyVanDam said:

Shorty said:



I know you don't like the word "retard" vendetta but here I make my case...


Oh piss off (and BTW, thank you for showing your prejudice beforehand). rolleyes You're just hating because I'm in favor of trying to save women from cutting off their breasts if it isn't necessary.

And I stand by my opinion that it's crazy for anyone to be cut-off breasts without even bother to find out if they have cancer at all first.
cool
Apparently these women are being tested for their risk of cancer before they do this and are making informed choices about whether they want to suffer through cancer treatments in the future.

Perhaps you don't know anyone with breast cancer but I do. I am sorry that women doing what best for them makes some poor man uncomfortable. Too bad for you that women are not here for you aesthetic entertainment.
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