In India the average salery is 2,600 a year. No I did not leave off any zeros.

A lot of companies in the US are establishing offices in the tech parks in India.

Working first hand with some of the transitions with programmers and such in India, those that I have worked with have been really good at C++, java and other various programming skills.

Although it's extreamly difficult to communicate with these guys sometimes, they have shown themseves to be very hard workers. More so than a lot of the guys that they replaced. Don't get me wrong. I've worked with tramendous talent here, but have also seen them wine and cry about raises, days off, overtime, whatever while the guys in India are just happy to have a job.

Although it has been an exteamly smart move by a lot of US businesses both financially and logistically (now you have a 24hr business), it's really sucked to see so much talent get layed off.


How many of you has this new trend in technology employment have been effected?

My company is moving them to Montreal... they get paid a LOT less there...

I hear it's everywhere really.

But you know what?
I've seen a lot of decline in our product quality as well.
It's not because of the programming skills, but lack of understanding the user requirements.


I guess you get what you paid for.

yamomma said:

You are not even kidding... the output is very bad.

How is this guy in India going to understand mortagage banking? BBO tracking? Appraisals? Title Insurance?

Last month, just before Christmas, my paycheck was all messed up and missing because they moved the payroll dept. to India.

When you try to call someone over there, they're already home in bed.


10 or 12 hour difference time zone.
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A few years ago, you didn't even need a degree to be a programmer. I feel affected.

I returned to college, to get a degree. I have always been into computers and such, and was told to get a degree and I would be hired.

Two years later, they have upped the requirements to requiring a 4 year degree!

I can't directly link myself to what is happening to technology because of the companies that have chosen to take their business there, but I am convinced that a lot more jobs would be available to me if it weren't for the current trend towards India operations.

I took part in an internship which did research on Fortune 500 compainies that are doing business in India, and was shocked to find that the greater majority are.

The amount in dollars are in the billions...

I won't EVEN get into the security issues relative to the information being passed through the networks in India. I've been told, by a man who grew up there, that information there can easily be "bought"...

I don't know where we are now, but we were ranked number two a couple of years ago. (in haveing number of employee's over there)

LaVisHh said:

GREAT!!

I hear we're about to get into credit card collections now too!

Time to polish the 'ol resume.

Yes, my company contracts with a firm in India called Ta-Ta's...

It was sad because so many of our DBA's were laid off. And the contractors retained. I must admit they are very, very smart.

They contract usually for one year in the US, and then they return home.

And I just love their attitudes, every morning your are greeted with a smile and a pleasant outlook.

sag10 said:

Same here.

American statistics of successful people showed the highest number to be First Generation Imagrants.

I hear my great grandfather was extremly wealthy and he came over from Italy with only a quater in his pocket.

Then I was told that it was the next generation that drank and squandered it away.

ya know, I always felt that I was supposed to have been born into some money.

I always see myself with a lot more than I actually have.

yamomma said:

As long as you live life to the fullest, who care...

yamomma said:

Tell that to people who want to "soak" the rich because they either inherited it or just got lucky...

I really want to try to get some chins up around here, however. It's been a long recession, and during time of cash-crunches companies have to save money--and India's programmers are cheaper than our own.

But when the economy was booming, this wasn't a problem because companies had the extra resources and could afford good american help (without the language barriers to boot).

Growing the economy is the answer. Pray that the tax cuts go through. Pray that the Fed gains enough wisdom from this past train-wreck not to tighten the dollar too much (or loosen it too much). So far, we're on track for a robust recovery in 2003--believe it or not!

WHOO HOO!

Bring it on.

I can honestly say that I feel I'm the richest person I know.

Wife, child, job doing what I want and love to do and my studio to retire to when I really want to do what I love to do on my own terms.


But...

I got to make more money to keep it afloat!

teller said:

I beleive they receive $10.00 an hour!

sag10 said:

Holy shit! Man... that is terrible.

I don't work in this field, but I've had to call plenty of tech supports in the past and it seems that they are ALL in India, esp. when you call past 10 PM.

Just my two cents. I wanted to play with the big kids.

Natsume said:

I am not a big kid! They don't want me anywhere, lol...so here I am...delivering a cyber to you.