RodeoSchro said:

They're already doing it.

Random testing is mandatory for events such as the Olympics, but what about your everyday sports??

uPtoWnNY said:

And I'm not OK with that.

luv4u said:

I've never understood why minor league baseball players can be tested for anything, but major league players can't be.

I didn't care then, don't care now (and that goes for Bonds as well)

RodeoSchro said:

I don't blame him. Why go to jail for using steroids that weren't illegal at the time he did them, while MLB and it's fans turned a blind eye to what should have been obvious at the time? And as much as I agree that steroids absolutely helped him hit home runs, he may honestly believe that the benefit in that regard was negligible.

As far as you or any us know, he did 'come clean'.

I like when he says performance enhancing drugs did not enhance his performance....

and I guess Viagra doesn't give him a hard on either....

lazycrockett said:

Tho' not the same substance, Agassi also took an illegal substance he would have been suspended a long time for, if he still would have played. But they both only admitted to doing it after they retired, preventing any sanctions.

I have an issue with that.

who cares that he used steroids...the real story lies in what really happened in that bathroom between McGwire and Canseco. Canseco says he injected McGwire in the ass with steroids in a bathroom stall. McGwire is swearing up and down that Canseco is lying and nothing happened and Canseco is demanding that McGwire be given a polygraph test. Am I the only one seeing the gay tryst gone wrong here?

RodeoSchro said:

U can't be serious. The percentage of players who think they have a "future" in sports is, was, and will continue 2 use no matter what. That is a FACT jack.

DesireeNevermind said:

At certain points I believe Canseco. Look at how he outed ARod. He said that he was using roids, ARod denied, then his ass later admitted that he was during his Rangers period. Which I myself saw how big he had gotten by 2003. Canseco knows some truth behind some of these players.

tmp said:

obviously McGwire was the bottom in this situation...
and obviously his shit do stink.
Team Canseco!

tmp said:

Canseco was vilified when he first brought this out, but he turned out to be right.

As for the butt injections, hey, how else would you do that shit?

uPtoWnNY said:

you can inject anywhere can't you?


Didn't Canseco out all the roid users in his tell all book? Maybe he needs a follow up. I'm thinking all of these baseball players are roided up. Hell lets throw in football, tennis, track, golf and soccer. The only athletes not hooked on roids are the Sumo wrestlers. They're most likely hooked on Dunkin Donuts and ice cream.

RodeoSchro said:

I've read horror stories about what these high-school & college kids do to get an edge over the competition. The fight for a possible scholarship/NFL contract is a mfer. Sometimes the parents are clueless as to what's going on.

DesireeNevermind said:

Don't forget the Olympic athletes. I wouldn't be surprised if Bolt was up to something, you never know who's clean(or not) these days.

The big thing now is HGH.

uPtoWnNY said:

Seriously.

uPtoWnNY said:

Now see,,,isn't HGH natural as in our bodies make it up to a certain age? Why not allow some enhancements since athletes are using them anyway?

DesireeNevermind said:

I heard it gets into your system faster if you take it in the butt, but what do I know?

uPtoWnNY said:

he is a fukin cry baby.... everybody knows...sugar is sweet... water is wet... everbody knows.


[Edited 1/13/10 11:08am]

Canseco says McGwire still lying

Jose Canseco says Mark McGwire is still lying about his use of steroids and his former manager Tony La Russa isn’t telling the truth either.

McGwire admitted Monday that he used steroids for a decade, including when he hit 70 homers in 1998, but denied Canseco’s claims that he injected himself and McGwire with steroids in bathroom stalls.

“I’ve defended Mark, I know a lot of good things about him,” Canseco told ESPN 1000 radio in Chicago on Tuesday. “I can’t believe he just called me a a liar. Umm, there’s something very strange going on here.

“I even polygraphed that I injected him, and I passed it completely. So I want to challenge him on national TV to a polygraph examination. I want to see him call me a liar under a polygraph examination.”

In Canseco’s 2005 book, “Juiced: Wild Times, Rampant ‘Roids, Smash Hits, and How Baseball Got Big,” Canseco claimed he introduced McGwire and other stars to steroids and performance-enhancing drugs. He wrote about injecting himself and McGwire in bathroom stalls, and how the effects of the drugs were the reason he hit 462 career home runs.

Canseco and McGwire helped lead the Athletics to a World Series sweep in 1989.

“Jose is out there doing what he’s doing, but I’m not going to stoop down to his level,” McGwire told ESPN on Tuesday. “None of that stuff happened. He knows it. I know it. I’m not going to stoop down to that level.”

La Russa was McGwire’s manager for nearly all of his 16-year career in both Oakland and St. Louis. He was also his fiercest defender, especially after The Associated Press reported McGwire used androstenedione during his record-breaking season in ’98. Andro, as it was known, was made a controlled substance until 2004, when it also was banned by baseball.

The manager said he didn’t know until Monday that McGwire used steroids.

“That’s a blatant lie,” Canseco said. “There are some things here that are so ridiculous, and so disrespectful for the public and the media to believe. I just can’t believe it. I’m in total shock. These guys remind me of politicians that go up and just lie to the public and expect to get elected.”

McGwire, who retired in 2001, had been widely ridiculed since he evaded questions before a congressional committee five years ago, repeatedly saying he wasn’t there to address his past. His confession was sparked by the Cardinals’ decision in October to hire him as hitting coach.

Canseco has said he is considering filing a class-action lawsuit against Major League Baseball and the players’ association. He says he’s been ostracized for going public with tales of steroids use in the sport.

“I’ve proved it. I’m 100 percent accurate,” he told the radio station. “I never exaggerate, I told it the way it actually happened. I’m the only one who told it the way it actually happened.”

uPtoWnNY said:

In light of all that, what KILLS me about McGwire is that this hypocritical lyin' bitch has the audacity to call the father of a kid here in the Dallas area who killed himself while on 'roids. The father testified the same day McGwire was there lying about not juicing. I woulda hung up in his damn face.

http://www.nbcdfw.com/new...30607.html

Moments before Mark McGwire's steroid admission made headlines, he called a North Texas father to personally apologize.

Don Hooton formed a foundation to stop steroid use in schools after his son, Taylor, committed suicide in July of 2003. He testified before congress moments before McGwire in 2005, but the two never spoke until Monday.

"I answered the phone. He said, 'It's Mark McGwire,' and he was just calling to express his personal condolences or sorrow for what had happened and his behavior and wanted to make sure that we, among a number of other people as it turns out, heard from him directly as opposed to reading it in the newspaper," said Hooton.

Duh.