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PrintableDesireeNevermind said: as long as he is past the age of 30
didn't kill his baby momma for stealing his tylenol didn't use any of the following weapons: machete, uzi, glock 9, nail gun and didn't just get outta jail oh...and he should be good looking but not so much so that your gut tells you he paid his dues in prison whilst on his knees. and he better not be missing any teeth either! l'amour l'amour Ladies and Gentlemen, this is what what I like to call...Low Standards  "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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DesireeNevermind said: SCNDLS said: Chile you know I'm Oprah and was interrogating her ass. Surprisingly, she had answers for everything which tells me he was pretty open with her about it. This was his first and only offense of any kind, not even a speeding ticket before. He had EXCELLENT lawyers if he got only 6 years from a jury in TEXAS for killing someone in a drug deal. if he black then sho nuff that was a good deal...especially for texas. 
damn, i guess i better not turn my nose up at them fools hanging at the county courthouse. 
on second thought....hell nah. if you did your time then you dont need none of mine.  I can't fuck wit 'em like that  | |
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bboy87 said: DesireeNevermind said: as long as he is past the age of 30
didn't kill his baby momma for stealing his tylenol didn't use any of the following weapons: machete, uzi, glock 9, nail gun and didn't just get outta jail oh...and he should be good looking but not so much so that your gut tells you he paid his dues in prison whilst on his knees. and he better not be missing any teeth either! l'amour l'amour Ladies and Gentlemen, this is what what I like to call...Low Standards  | |
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SCNDLS said: MarySharon said: That's my idea of self defense Someone coming to your home to shoot you is self-defense also which is what happened in this case. The dude apparently owed him money and came to HIS house to rob him or sumthin and shot at him first, hence why he only got 6 years. Lawd, this all a hot ass mess  That's survival instinct then. Would you like to be shot down? I wouldn't. Ok he got 6 years; what could he be thinking at this very moment? Maybe "better jail than death", it's a common human trait to give in to panic. There's not any cruelty in it; you just want to save up you own life Is there any place of refuge one can flee from this insanity | |
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if only he had hid the drugs and money before the popos came. | |
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MarySharon said: SCNDLS said: Someone coming to your home to shoot you is self-defense also which is what happened in this case. The dude apparently owed him money and came to HIS house to rob him or sumthin and shot at him first, hence why he only got 6 years. Lawd, this all a hot ass mess That's survival instinct then. Would you like to be shot down? I wouldn't. Ok he got 6 years; what could he be thinking at this very moment? Maybe "better jail than death", it's a common human trait to give in to panic. There's not any cruelty in it; you just want to save up you own life So, would you date him? | |
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DesireeNevermind said: if only he had hid the drugs and money before the popos came.
He actually turned himself in the next day.  | |
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SCNDLS said: DesireeNevermind said: if only he had hid the drugs and money before the popos came.
He actually turned himself in the next day. the hell????  | |
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SCNDLS said: Shawnt27 said: What have you got yourself into?  Them fools shoulda had my muthafuckin' money! 
But for real ... I found out a friend is dating a dude with a record and it was murder case from 10 years ago, Dude only got 6 years because it was self defense. I met him a few times and he's the most soft spoken, polite person EVER so I was shocked like a mug when she told me. So, I was wondering if I could be that open-minded/forgiving. Would you date a chick that killed someone in self defense? That's kinda of an oxymoron. Is this what he's telling everyone because I never known anyone who killed someone in self defense had to serve time in jail. Maybe he was convicted of involuntary manslaughter. Answer to the question, no. ===== [Edited 1/6/10 16:28pm] | |
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SCNDLS said: MarySharon said: That's survival instinct then. Would you like to be shot down? I wouldn't. Ok he got 6 years; what could he be thinking at this very moment? Maybe "better jail than death", it's a common human trait to give in to panic. There's not any cruelty in it; you just want to save up you own life So, would you date him? At least I'd try to get to know him better before dating him, give it time. Is there any place of refuge one can flee from this insanity | |
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TD3 said: SCNDLS said: Them fools shoulda had my muthafuckin' money!
But for real ... I found out a friend is dating a dude with a record and it was murder case from 10 years ago, Dude only got 6 years because it was self defense. I met him a few times and he's the most soft spoken, polite person EVER so I was shocked like a mug when she told me. So, I was wondering if I could be that open-minded/forgiving. Would you date a chick that killed someone in self defense? That's kinda of an oxymoron. Is that's what he's telling everyone because I never known anyone who killed someone in self defense had to serve time in jail. Maybe he was convicted of involuntary manslaughter. Answer to the question, no. You know, i thought that was fishy but maybe the drug thing was an extenuating circumstance or something. Cuz I know some crimes have added penalties if drugs are involved. Maybe it was involuntary manslaughter, couldn't have been straight up murder, huh? I didn't ask her the specific charge tho I was stuck on that nucca killed somebody and you dating him. | |
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SCNDLS said: TD3 said: That's kinda of an oxymoron. Is that's what he's telling everyone because I never known anyone who killed someone in self defense had to serve time in jail. Maybe he was convicted of involuntary manslaughter. Answer to the question, no. You know, i thought that was fishy but maybe the drug thing was an extenuating circumstance or something. Cuz I know some crimes have added penalties if drugs are involved. Maybe it was involuntary manslaughter, couldn't have been straight up murder, huh? I didn't ask her the specific charge tho I was stuck on that nucca killed somebody and you dating him. i got a feeling if she ask him anymore questions that self-defense story gonna take a dramatic turn. Your Friend: "I can't get my mind around you gettin 6 years for self-defense." Ex-Con Potential Mate: "Self-defense? Oh yeah, yeah...self-defense...um....well you see baby..." | |
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DesireeNevermind said: SCNDLS said: You know, i thought that was fishy but maybe the drug thing was an extenuating circumstance or something. Cuz I know some crimes have added penalties if drugs are involved. Maybe it was involuntary manslaughter, couldn't have been straight up murder, huh? I didn't ask her the specific charge tho I was stuck on that nucca killed somebody and you dating him. i got a feeling if she ask him anymore questions that self-defense story gonna take a dramatic turn. Your Friend: "I can't get my mind around you gettin 6 years for self-defense." Ex-Con Potential Mate: "Self-defense? Oh yeah, yeah...self-defense...um....well you see baby..." then | |
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SCNDLS said: TD3 said: That's kinda of an oxymoron. Is that's what he's telling everyone because I never known anyone who killed someone in self defense had to serve time in jail. Maybe he was convicted of involuntary manslaughter. Answer to the question, no. You know, i thought that was fishy but maybe the drug thing was an extenuating circumstance or something. Cuz I know some crimes have added penalties if drugs are involved. Maybe it was involuntary manslaughter, couldn't have been straight up murder, huh? I didn't ask her the specific charge tho I was stuck on that nucca killed somebody and you dating him. Is she embarassed to talk about it? Is there any place of refuge one can flee from this insanity | |
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MarySharon said: SCNDLS said: You know, i thought that was fishy but maybe the drug thing was an extenuating circumstance or something. Cuz I know some crimes have added penalties if drugs are involved. Maybe it was involuntary manslaughter, couldn't have been straight up murder, huh? I didn't ask her the specific charge tho I was stuck on that nucca killed somebody and you dating him. Is she embarassed to talk about it? No, not with me she wasnt. But I'm sure she wouldnt want this getting out, especially if she decides to get serious with him. | |
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I'd be prepared to give him a second chance. 
But warn him first, no more murdering or killing. If he can't respect that little caveat, then the relationship might suffer. I think that's fair.  | |
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DesireeNevermind said: bboy87 said: Ladies and Gentlemen, this is what what I like to call...Low Standards  "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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DesireeNevermind said: SCNDLS said: You know, i thought that was fishy but maybe the drug thing was an extenuating circumstance or something. Cuz I know some crimes have added penalties if drugs are involved. Maybe it was involuntary manslaughter, couldn't have been straight up murder, huh? I didn't ask her the specific charge tho I was stuck on that nucca killed somebody and you dating him. i got a feeling if she ask him anymore questions that self-defense story gonna take a dramatic turn. Your Friend: "I can't get my mind around you gettin 6 years for self-defense." Ex-Con Potential Mate: "Self-defense? Oh yeah, yeah...self-defense...um...well you see baby..." Uh uh. Exactly. I've heard this b.s. line more times than I care to recall. "Ms. Trina. You know.. see... it, it went down like this". 
I just say-in'. Sista girl needs to leave ol'boy alone, he hasn't been straight up about why he was found guilty of murder. | |
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TD3 said: SCNDLS said: Them fools shoulda had my muthafuckin' money!
But for real ... I found out a friend is dating a dude with a record and it was murder case from 10 years ago, Dude only got 6 years because it was self defense. I met him a few times and he's the most soft spoken, polite person EVER so I was shocked like a mug when she told me. So, I was wondering if I could be that open-minded/forgiving. Would you date a chick that killed someone in self defense? That's kinda of an oxymoron. Is that's what he's telling everyone because I never known anyone who killed someone in self defense had to serve time in jail. Maybe he was convicted of involuntary manslaughter. Answer to the question, no. That was my first thought as well. I'm only experienced in British law, and things may be different over there, but the law on serious crimes tends to be very similar (because, historically, US law is based on the law of England and Wales). Over here, if someone kills in self-defence, then that is a complete defence to murder and if they show that they acted to prevent harm to themselves or others, and if the level of force used was reasonable, they will be acquitted. If not, then they will either be convicted of murder, or one of the various forms of manslaughter (provocation, diminished responsibility, unlawful act or gross negligence). I'd do a LOT more digging if I were you. If he's lying to her about the true nature of his conviction, then what else is he hiding? Even if I didn't have my doubts about what they had actually done time for, if it were one of my friends, then unless the guy has completely turned their life around and is not only going straight, but doesn't live in the same type of area as he used to, or hang around with the same type of people, then I'd probably be advising my friend to give the guy a swerve. He may be a Dennis "Cutty" Wise, but then again, he could be an Avon Barksdale. Susan - turn the guitar up a little bit.... | |
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DesireeNevermind said: bboy87 said: Ladies and Gentlemen, this is what what I like to call...Low Standards Don't hurt him.  surviving on the thought of loving you, it's just like the water
I ain't felt this way in years... | |
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If he was really hot! | |
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JustErin said: If he was really hot!
You need to quit it! | |
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TD3 said: DesireeNevermind said: i got a feeling if she ask him anymore questions that self-defense story gonna take a dramatic turn. Your Friend: "I can't get my mind around you gettin 6 years for self-defense." Ex-Con Potential Mate: "Self-defense? Oh yeah, yeah...self-defense...um...well you see baby..." Uh uh. Exactly. I've heard this b.s. line more times than I care to recall. "Ms. Trina. You know.. see... it, it went down like this".
I just say-in'. Sista girl needs to leave ol'boy alone, he hasn't been straight up about why he was found guilty of murder. Like I said, I didn't ask about the specific charge and she may have just said it was murder cuz he killed somebody even tho that may not be the actual legal charge. So, I'm not saying dude lied or wasn't up front cuz, regardless he admitted to serving time for killing somebody and I wasn't there so I may not be getting the complete explanation. In your opinion, does the 6 years sound reasonable for manslaughter? | |
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IDontBelieveYouHeardMe said: TD3 said: That's kinda of an oxymoron. Is that's what he's telling everyone because I never known anyone who killed someone in self defense had to serve time in jail. Maybe he was convicted of involuntary manslaughter. Answer to the question, no. That was my first thought as well. I'm only experienced in British law, and things may be different over there, but the law on serious crimes tends to be very similar (because, historically, US law is based on the law of England and Wales). Over here, if someone kills in self-defence, then that is a complete defence to murder and if they show that they acted to prevent harm to themselves or others, and if the level of force used was reasonable, they will be acquitted. If not, then they will either be convicted of murder, or one of the various forms of manslaughter (provocation, diminished responsibility, unlawful act or gross negligence). I'd do a LOT more digging if I were you. If he's lying to her about the true nature of his conviction, then what else is he hiding? Even if I didn't have my doubts about what they had actually done time for, if it were one of my friends, then unless the guy has completely turned their life around and is not only going straight, but doesn't live in the same type of area as he used to, or hang around with the same type of people, then I'd probably be advising my friend to give the guy a swerve. He may be a Dennis "Cutty" Wise, but then again, he could be an Avon Barksdale. Duly noted. And yes, he moved to another city and has apparently cleaned up his life and hasn't had any issues since. He's even raising his kids alone while their mother is deployed in the Army. If it was me tho, I ain't trynna hear all these details. I'm out! | |
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JustErin said: If he was really hot!
He is. REALLY. So, is that a yes from you? | |
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Sorry but you don't get 6 years for 'self defense'. | |
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He's even raising his kids alone while their mother is deployed in the Army.
what??? he got kids and a baby momma trained to use military weapons?  | |
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no way. what if his victim's friends/family come looking for revenge? you might catch some buckshot... everyone's a fruit & nut case | |
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Tremolina said: Sorry but you don't get 6 years for 'self defense'.
So under what circumstances would you get only 6 years for killing someone? I'm really trynna understand how that's possible.  [Edited 1/6/10 16:49pm] | |
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DesireeNevermind said: He's even raising his kids alone while their mother is deployed in the Army.
what??? he got kids and a baby momma trained to use military weapons? That's a problem for me even without the murder rap  | |
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