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Thread started 01/06/10 4:17pm

Fury

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are funerals for the living or for the dead?

do we have funerals to help us cope with the inevitable death of a loved one or is it for their sake, even though they are gone. was just wondering because in detroit there are 100's of bodies just laying around in the morgue because folks can't afford a funeral/burial
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Reply #1 posted 01/06/10 4:18pm

CarrieMpls

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they're for the living.

once you're dead you don't know any differently.
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Reply #2 posted 01/06/10 4:40pm

Mach

For the living ~ overall
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Reply #3 posted 01/06/10 4:42pm

TheVoid

It depends on your faith. lol
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Reply #4 posted 01/06/10 4:45pm

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the living
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Reply #5 posted 01/06/10 5:12pm

RenHoek

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for the dead, who can afford it, attended by the living who can't... confused
A working class Hero is something to be ~ Lennon
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Reply #6 posted 01/06/10 5:16pm

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it's a closure for the living..
what goes down after living is mystery..
"Dead in the middle of Little Italy little did we know
that we riddled some middleman who didn't do diddily"--BP
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Reply #7 posted 01/06/10 6:12pm

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purplewisdom said:

it's a closure for the living..
what goes down after living is mystery..


Perfectly stated.

I just can't stand the way families "come together" when someone dies. I remember when my father passed, I saw relatives I had never even seen before and haven't seen since. Obviously, they didn't come visit in life, but were front and center pretending to be so torn up and concerned after death.

I say, show me you care, bring me flowers, tell me you love me, while I'm still here. Otherwise, don't bother once I'm gone.
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Reply #8 posted 01/06/10 6:29pm

purplewisdom

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xpertluva said:

purplewisdom said:

it's a closure for the living..
what goes down after living is mystery..


Perfectly stated.

I just can't stand the way families "come together" when someone dies. I remember when my father passed, I saw relatives I had never even seen before and haven't seen since. Obviously, they didn't come visit in life, but were front and center pretending to be so torn up and concerned after death.

I say, show me you care, bring me flowers, tell me you love me, while I'm still here. Otherwise, don't bother once I'm gone.


I fully concour and relate to this part, with my dad's departure, i saw a bunch of monkeys at my place eating food, talking shyt, and day after til now, they seize to exist.
"Dead in the middle of Little Italy little did we know
that we riddled some middleman who didn't do diddily"--BP
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Reply #9 posted 01/06/10 6:32pm

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CarrieMpls said:

they're for the living.

once you're dead you don't know any differently.


you don't really know that for sure.....
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Reply #10 posted 01/06/10 6:50pm

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xpertluva said:

purplewisdom said:

it's a closure for the living..
what goes down after living is mystery..


Perfectly stated.

I just can't stand the way families "come together" when someone dies. I remember when my father passed, I saw relatives I had never even seen before and haven't seen since. Obviously, they didn't come visit in life, but were front and center pretending to be so torn up and concerned after death.

I say, show me you care, bring me flowers, tell me you love me, while I'm still here. Otherwise, don't bother once I'm gone.

I generally agree, though I think the grief of even folk who were absent in life can be genuine in some cases.

Nevertheless, it would be nice to see us nurture relationships in life. It's fleeting, and we should all appreciate that.
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Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ
πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν
τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.”
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Reply #11 posted 01/06/10 7:04pm

CarrieMpls

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BklynBabe said:

CarrieMpls said:

they're for the living.

once you're dead you don't know any differently.


you don't really know that for sure.....

Just as you don’t know for sure that unicorns don’t exist. But until evidence shows otherwise...

That really has little to do with the topic. The deceased isn’t present at the funeral (in any discernable way), so of course it’s not about them, that's all I'm saying.
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Reply #12 posted 01/06/10 7:32pm

Alej

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CarrieMpls said:

BklynBabe said:



you don't really know that for sure.....

Just as you don’t know for sure that unicorns don’t exist. But until evidence shows otherwise...

That really has little to do with the topic. The deceased isn’t present at the funeral (in any discernable way), so of course it’s not about them, that's all I'm saying.


lol
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Reply #13 posted 01/06/10 7:38pm

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I think it's both. Like people have said, the living need closure, but also, its showing dignity for the person who has passed on.


eek WOW! How long do they keep bodies around in Detroit?? In some states there's a law that if a body hasn't been claimed in a certain amount of time, it gets cremated.
"Bring friends, bring your children and bring foot spray 'cause it's gon' be funky." ~ Prince

A kiss on the lips, is betta than a knife in the back ~ Sheila E

Darkness isn't the absence of light, it's the absence of U ~ Prince
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Reply #14 posted 01/06/10 7:59pm

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CarrieMpls said:

BklynBabe said:



you don't really know that for sure.....

Just as you don’t know for sure that unicorns don’t exist. But until evidence shows otherwise...

That really has little to do with the topic. The deceased isn’t present at the funeral (in any discernable way), so of course it’s not about them, that's all I'm saying.


It's a ritual for the living to give them some sort of official closure. Of course any sense of real closure comes from within. Once you're physically dead unless you pass over you won't know. Of course if you do cross over you know you've gone, well that's what i get from the readings i give. Unless science broadens it's horizons there will never be any evidence but that doesn't mean its not there or real. We all have souls but there's no scientic proof of it. But that's another topic.
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Reply #15 posted 01/06/10 8:01pm

purplewisdom

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sorry to switch the subject, but has anyone else tried DMT? I have.. after doing this, i have placed the object of death as a continuation of where i am. Great experinece.
"Dead in the middle of Little Italy little did we know
that we riddled some middleman who didn't do diddily"--BP
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Reply #16 posted 01/06/10 8:26pm

johnart

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Most definitely for the living. As are cemeteries.
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Reply #17 posted 01/06/10 8:29pm

EmeraldSkies

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xpertluva said:

purplewisdom said:

it's a closure for the living..
what goes down after living is mystery..


Perfectly stated.

I just can't stand the way families "come together" when someone dies. I remember when my father passed, I saw relatives I had never even seen before and haven't seen since. Obviously, they didn't come visit in life, but were front and center pretending to be so torn up and concerned after death.

I say, show me you care, bring me flowers, tell me you love me, while I'm still here. Otherwise, don't bother once I'm gone.


I fully agree with this. nod
Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life. ~Berthold Auerbach
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Reply #18 posted 01/06/10 8:36pm

kpowers

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Depends, sometimes for the living, sometimes for the dead, sometimes both
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Reply #19 posted 01/06/10 10:27pm

prb

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CarrieMpls said:

BklynBabe said:



you don't really know that for sure.....

Just as you don’t know for sure that unicorns don’t exist. But until evidence shows otherwise...

That really has little to do with the topic. The deceased isn’t present at the funeral (in any discernable way), so of course it’s not about them, that's all I'm saying.

Unicorns dont exist eek


bawl


next you'll be saying theres no Santa hmph!


wink


as for the topic, funerals are for the living....but they should be a celebration of the departeds life.
seems that i was busy doing something close to nothing, but different than the day before music beret
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Reply #20 posted 01/07/10 1:09am

xpertluva

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purplewisdom said:

sorry to switch the subject, but has anyone else tried DMT? I have.. after doing this, i have placed the object of death as a continuation of where i am. Great experinece.


What's a DMT? Some sort of reading that tries to contact the other side? Sounds interesting.
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Reply #21 posted 01/07/10 1:15am

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If I'm not dead enough for life, am I alive enough for death?
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