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are funerals for the living or for the dead? do we have funerals to help us cope with the inevitable death of a loved one or is it for their sake, even though they are gone. was just wondering because in detroit there are 100's of bodies just laying around in the morgue because folks can't afford a funeral/burial [Edited 1/6/10 8:19am] | |
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they're for the living.
once you're dead you don't know any differently. |
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For the living ~ overall | |
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It depends on your faith. | |
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the living We all should know that diversity makes for a rich tapestry, and we must understand that all the threads of the tapestry are equal in value no matter what their color. Maya Angelou | |
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for the dead, who can afford it, attended by the living who can't... A working class Hero is something to be ~ Lennon |
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it's a closure for the living..
what goes down after living is mystery.. "Dead in the middle of Little Italy little did we know
that we riddled some middleman who didn't do diddily"--BP | |
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purplewisdom said: it's a closure for the living..
what goes down after living is mystery.. Perfectly stated. I just can't stand the way families "come together" when someone dies. I remember when my father passed, I saw relatives I had never even seen before and haven't seen since. Obviously, they didn't come visit in life, but were front and center pretending to be so torn up and concerned after death. I say, show me you care, bring me flowers, tell me you love me, while I'm still here. Otherwise, don't bother once I'm gone. | |
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xpertluva said: purplewisdom said: it's a closure for the living..
what goes down after living is mystery.. Perfectly stated. I just can't stand the way families "come together" when someone dies. I remember when my father passed, I saw relatives I had never even seen before and haven't seen since. Obviously, they didn't come visit in life, but were front and center pretending to be so torn up and concerned after death. I say, show me you care, bring me flowers, tell me you love me, while I'm still here. Otherwise, don't bother once I'm gone. I fully concour and relate to this part, with my dad's departure, i saw a bunch of monkeys at my place eating food, talking shyt, and day after til now, they seize to exist. "Dead in the middle of Little Italy little did we know
that we riddled some middleman who didn't do diddily"--BP | |
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CarrieMpls said: they're for the living.
once you're dead you don't know any differently. you don't really know that for sure..... | |
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xpertluva said: purplewisdom said: it's a closure for the living..
what goes down after living is mystery.. Perfectly stated. I just can't stand the way families "come together" when someone dies. I remember when my father passed, I saw relatives I had never even seen before and haven't seen since. Obviously, they didn't come visit in life, but were front and center pretending to be so torn up and concerned after death. I say, show me you care, bring me flowers, tell me you love me, while I'm still here. Otherwise, don't bother once I'm gone. I generally agree, though I think the grief of even folk who were absent in life can be genuine in some cases. Nevertheless, it would be nice to see us nurture relationships in life. It's fleeting, and we should all appreciate that. [Edited 1/6/10 10:51am] Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.” | |
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BklynBabe said: CarrieMpls said: they're for the living.
once you're dead you don't know any differently. you don't really know that for sure..... Just as you don’t know for sure that unicorns don’t exist. But until evidence shows otherwise... That really has little to do with the topic. The deceased isn’t present at the funeral (in any discernable way), so of course it’s not about them, that's all I'm saying. |
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CarrieMpls said: BklynBabe said: you don't really know that for sure..... Just as you don’t know for sure that unicorns don’t exist. But until evidence shows otherwise... That really has little to do with the topic. The deceased isn’t present at the funeral (in any discernable way), so of course it’s not about them, that's all I'm saying. | |
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I think it's both. Like people have said, the living need closure, but also, its showing dignity for the person who has passed on.
"Bring friends, bring your children and bring foot spray 'cause it's gon' be funky." ~ Prince
A kiss on the lips, is betta than a knife in the back ~ Sheila E Darkness isn't the absence of light, it's the absence of U ~ Prince | |
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CarrieMpls said: BklynBabe said: you don't really know that for sure..... Just as you don’t know for sure that unicorns don’t exist. But until evidence shows otherwise... That really has little to do with the topic. The deceased isn’t present at the funeral (in any discernable way), so of course it’s not about them, that's all I'm saying. It's a ritual for the living to give them some sort of official closure. Of course any sense of real closure comes from within. Once you're physically dead unless you pass over you won't know. Of course if you do cross over you know you've gone, well that's what i get from the readings i give. Unless science broadens it's horizons there will never be any evidence but that doesn't mean its not there or real. We all have souls but there's no scientic proof of it. But that's another topic. [Edited 1/6/10 11:59am] [Edited 1/6/10 12:02pm] | |
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sorry to switch the subject, but has anyone else tried DMT? I have.. after doing this, i have placed the object of death as a continuation of where i am. Great experinece. "Dead in the middle of Little Italy little did we know
that we riddled some middleman who didn't do diddily"--BP | |
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Most definitely for the living. As are cemeteries. | |
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xpertluva said: purplewisdom said: it's a closure for the living..
what goes down after living is mystery.. Perfectly stated. I just can't stand the way families "come together" when someone dies. I remember when my father passed, I saw relatives I had never even seen before and haven't seen since. Obviously, they didn't come visit in life, but were front and center pretending to be so torn up and concerned after death. I say, show me you care, bring me flowers, tell me you love me, while I'm still here. Otherwise, don't bother once I'm gone. I fully agree with this. Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life. ~Berthold Auerbach | |
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Depends, sometimes for the living, sometimes for the dead, sometimes both [Edited 1/6/10 13:05pm] | |
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CarrieMpls said: BklynBabe said: you don't really know that for sure..... Just as you don’t know for sure that unicorns don’t exist. But until evidence shows otherwise... That really has little to do with the topic. The deceased isn’t present at the funeral (in any discernable way), so of course it’s not about them, that's all I'm saying. Unicorns dont exist next you'll be saying theres no Santa as for the topic, funerals are for the living....but they should be a celebration of the departeds life. seems that i was busy doing something close to nothing, but different than the day before | |
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purplewisdom said: sorry to switch the subject, but has anyone else tried DMT? I have.. after doing this, i have placed the object of death as a continuation of where i am. Great experinece.
What's a DMT? Some sort of reading that tries to contact the other side? Sounds interesting. | |
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If I'm not dead enough for life, am I alive enough for death? | |
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