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Reply #90 posted 01/15/10 8:27pm

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Graycap23 said:

SCNDLS said:


confuse What's to understand about not breaking the law, in general, but ESPECIALLY when you have so much to lose?

Ask Oj, Arenas, .....and many others.

Those are examples of complete idiots. But I still don't understand why you think following the law is part of a "game" for the famous.
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Reply #91 posted 01/15/10 8:53pm

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SCNDLS said:

Graycap23 said:


Ask Oj, Arenas, .....and many others.

Those are examples of complete idiots. But I still don't understand why you think following the law is part of a "game" for the famous.

See orgnote.
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Reply #92 posted 01/15/10 8:56pm

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Graycap23 said:

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Those are examples of complete idiots. But I still don't understand why you think following the law is part of a "game" for the famous.

See orgnote.

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Reply #93 posted 01/15/10 8:56pm

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TheBoyfromtheBand said:

i dont think he deserves jail time.

He broke the law. Why doesn't he deserve jail time?
IF he's an example it's only because he's in the public eye.
Why should he get off when the neighborhood no name IS getting a prison sentence?
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Reply #94 posted 01/15/10 8:57pm

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SUPRMAN said:

TheBoyfromtheBand said:

i dont think he deserves jail time.

He broke the law. Why doesn't he deserve jail time?
IF he's an example it's only because he's in the public eye.
Why should he get off when the neighborhood no name IS getting a prison sentence?

nod The atty on ESPN even said that him being out on bail would be unheard of for a regular joe with the same charge. confused
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Reply #95 posted 01/15/10 9:00pm

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JerseyKRS said:

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No, that, I'm sure is real.
It's illegal to possess firearms in D.C. so they are trying to minimize it to avoid the District bringing charges.
Apparently none of the players are talking so we're left with the cover story.
And what happened to Crittenden's gun . . . ?



It's not illegal to possess firearms in D.C.


Really? Why not?

Washington Wizards guard Gilbert Arenas was charged Thursday with felony gun possession in connection with a Dec. 21 locker room confrontation with a teammate.

Prosecutors charged Arenas with one count of carrying a pistol without a license, which carries a maximum penalty of five years in prison. The charges were filed in D.C. Superior Court in an "information," a document that often signals a plea deal.

http://www.cbsnews.com/st...7898.shtml


So why has he pled guilty and why was he charged in the District of Columbia?
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Reply #96 posted 01/15/10 9:01pm

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TheBoyfromtheBand said:

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Deserves??? Why not he broke a law that they are serious about. If this was the average brutha on the street in DC he'd sho nuf go to jail. So, oh well, too sad too bad.


right, thats why there is so much violence in dc as is because dc police are really throwing everyone with a gun in jail. be real.
Arenas had registered guns, that weren't registered in DC. illegal, yes. but i think dc has much more to worry about than gilbert arenas jacking caron butler's locker for a pair of shoes with 4 unloaded guns. how about community service or some productive punishment that makes use of his public status.


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Reply #97 posted 01/15/10 9:02pm

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BlackAdder7 said:

I heard on sports radio, that according to witnesses, Arenas was actually sorta innocent, that the OTHER guy was the bad guy in this incident..

It's not about what happened during the "incident" between them.
He's being charged with having an unlicensed weapon in the District of Columbia in violation of District law.
The rest is irrelevant. Doesn't matter if he were provoked or not.
He clearly violated the law before being provoked.
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Reply #98 posted 01/15/10 9:04pm

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SUPRMAN said:

JerseyKRS said:




It's not illegal to possess firearms in D.C.


Really? Why not?

Washington Wizards guard Gilbert Arenas was charged Thursday with felony gun possession in connection with a Dec. 21 locker room confrontation with a teammate.

Prosecutors charged Arenas with one count of carrying a pistol without a license, which carries a maximum penalty of five years in prison. The charges were filed in D.C. Superior Court in an "information," a document that often signals a plea deal.

http://www.cbsnews.com/st...7898.shtml


So why has he pled guilty and why was he charged in the District of Columbia?

I think what added to the charge was that the arena was within 100 feet or yards from a school or day care and that makes it a more serious charge.
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Reply #99 posted 01/15/10 9:50pm

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SUPRMAN said:

JerseyKRS said:




It's not illegal to possess firearms in D.C.


Really? Why not?

Washington Wizards guard Gilbert Arenas was charged Thursday with felony gun possession in connection with a Dec. 21 locker room confrontation with a teammate.

Prosecutors charged Arenas with one count of carrying a pistol without a license, which carries a maximum penalty of five years in prison. The charges were filed in D.C. Superior Court in an "information," a document that often signals a plea deal.

http://www.cbsnews.com/st...7898.shtml


So why has he pled guilty and why was he charged in the District of Columbia?


because his guns were not registered in DC
yea, i know...
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Reply #100 posted 01/15/10 9:51pm

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SUPRMAN said:

TheBoyfromtheBand said:

i dont think he deserves jail time.

He broke the law. Why doesn't he deserve jail time?
IF he's an example it's only because he's in the public eye.
Why should he get off when the neighborhood no name IS getting a prison sentence?


because people break the law everyday, that doesn't mean jail time is the appropriate punishment.
yea, i know...
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Reply #101 posted 01/15/10 10:23pm

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TheBoyfromtheBand said:

SUPRMAN said:


He broke the law. Why doesn't he deserve jail time?
IF he's an example it's only because he's in the public eye.
Why should he get off when the neighborhood no name IS getting a prison sentence?


because people break the law everyday, that doesn't mean jail time is the appropriate punishment.


But the law is written with the penalty included.
It's not whether jail time is appropriate or not. IF that's the penalty under the law then it has been deemed appropriate.

Are you suggesting that the law should apply to some, but not all? Why?
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Reply #102 posted 01/15/10 10:23pm

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TheBoyfromtheBand said:

SUPRMAN said:



Really? Why not?

Washington Wizards guard Gilbert Arenas was charged Thursday with felony gun possession in connection with a Dec. 21 locker room confrontation with a teammate.

Prosecutors charged Arenas with one count of carrying a pistol without a license, which carries a maximum penalty of five years in prison. The charges were filed in D.C. Superior Court in an "information," a document that often signals a plea deal.

http://www.cbsnews.com/st...7898.shtml


So why has he pled guilty and why was he charged in the District of Columbia?


because his guns were not registered in DC


Which is a violation of the law and he admits he violated the law. So face the penalty written into the law . . . .
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Reply #103 posted 01/15/10 10:29pm

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SUPRMAN said:

TheBoyfromtheBand said:



because people break the law everyday, that doesn't mean jail time is the appropriate punishment.


But the law is written with the penalty included.
It's not whether jail time is appropriate or not. IF that's the penalty under the law then it has been deemed appropriate.

Are you suggesting that the law should apply to some, but not all? Why?

the punishment should match the crime
yea, i know...
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Reply #104 posted 01/15/10 10:45pm

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TheBoyfromtheBand said:

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But the law is written with the penalty included.
It's not whether jail time is appropriate or not. IF that's the penalty under the law then it has been deemed appropriate.

Are you suggesting that the law should apply to some, but not all? Why?

the punishment should match the crime

That's what you said before. Again, should the law apply to some, not all?
When the law was written the punishment was included. But now that it's applied to someone you favor, like, etc., it shouldn't apply?
Shouldn't the law be impartial?
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Reply #105 posted 01/16/10 1:01am

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SUPRMAN said:

TheBoyfromtheBand said:


the punishment should match the crime

That's what you said before. Again, should the law apply to some, not all?
When the law was written the punishment was included. But now that it's applied to someone you favor, like, etc., it shouldn't apply?
Shouldn't the law be impartial?

The law is written, but it's an unwritten code that people that brake the law over and over and over again will get it worse than a first time lawbreaker.
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Reply #106 posted 01/16/10 1:01am

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LittleBLUECorvette said:

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That's what you said before. Again, should the law apply to some, not all?
When the law was written the punishment was included. But now that it's applied to someone you favor, like, etc., it shouldn't apply?
Shouldn't the law be impartial?

The law is written, but it's an unwritten code that people that brake the law over and over and over again will get it worse than a first time lawbreaker.

Um this is his SECOND gun possession conviction.
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Reply #107 posted 01/16/10 1:21am

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SCNDLS said:

LittleBLUECorvette said:


The law is written, but it's an unwritten code that people that brake the law over and over and over again will get it worse than a first time lawbreaker.

Um this is his SECOND gun possession conviction.

Yeah, he had one back in 2003 with the Warriors.
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Reply #108 posted 01/16/10 6:44pm

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SCNDLS said:

SUPRMAN said:



Really? Why not?

Washington Wizards guard Gilbert Arenas was charged Thursday with felony gun possession in connection with a Dec. 21 locker room confrontation with a teammate.

Prosecutors charged Arenas with one count of carrying a pistol without a license, which carries a maximum penalty of five years in prison. The charges were filed in D.C. Superior Court in an "information," a document that often signals a plea deal.

http://www.cbsnews.com/st...7898.shtml


So why has he pled guilty and why was he charged in the District of Columbia?

I think what added to the charge was that the arena was within 100 feet or yards from a school or day care and that makes it a more serious charge.


I'm not questioning the sentence. But if it's not illegal to possess a firearm in D.C. as was alleged earlier on this thread, then why plead guilty to something that isn't illegal? How are you even charged if it's not illegal.
That's BEFORE and sentencing enhancements.
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Reply #109 posted 01/16/10 6:45pm

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LittleBLUECorvette said:

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That's what you said before. Again, should the law apply to some, not all?
When the law was written the punishment was included. But now that it's applied to someone you favor, like, etc., it shouldn't apply?
Shouldn't the law be impartial?

The law is written, but it's an unwritten code that people that brake the law over and over and over again will get it worse than a first time lawbreaker.

'Unwritten code' is not the law. And depending on how the law is written it may not allow for a reduced sentence. Then there is no room for the 'unwritten code.'
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Reply #110 posted 01/16/10 6:47pm

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LittleBLUECorvette said:

SCNDLS said:


Um this is his SECOND gun possession conviction.

Yeah, he had one back in 2003 with the Warriors.

So you aren't counting that one? Or is he just a first time offender in D.C. and that should earn leniency?
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Reply #111 posted 01/16/10 9:08pm

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SUPRMAN said:

LittleBLUECorvette said:


Yeah, he had one back in 2003 with the Warriors.

So you aren't counting that one? Or is he just a first time offender in D.C. and that should earn leniency?

I am counting that one
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Reply #112 posted 01/17/10 12:34pm

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SUPRMAN said:

JerseyKRS said:




It's not illegal to possess firearms in D.C.


Really? Why not?

Washington Wizards guard Gilbert Arenas was charged Thursday with felony gun possession in connection with a Dec. 21 locker room confrontation with a teammate.

Prosecutors charged Arenas with one count of carrying a pistol without a license, which carries a maximum penalty of five years in prison. The charges were filed in D.C. Superior Court in an "information," a document that often signals a plea deal.

http://www.cbsnews.com/st...7898.shtml


So why has he pled guilty and why was he charged in the District of Columbia?



he's charged with the felony because his DUMB RICH ass didn't even have his firearms REGISTERED.


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Reply #113 posted 01/17/10 1:31pm

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SUPRMAN said:

SCNDLS said:


I think what added to the charge was that the arena was within 100 feet or yards from a school or day care and that makes it a more serious charge.


I'm not questioning the sentence. But if it's not illegal to possess a firearm in D.C. as was alleged earlier on this thread, then why plead guilty to something that isn't illegal? How are you even charged if it's not illegal.
That's BEFORE and sentencing enhancements.


It's not illegal to possess a REGISTERED firearm in D.C. (since 07). He plead guilty to carrying a pistol without a license. How he got away without further charges I'll attribute to his wealth and fame.

I'm not trying to beat a dead horse, but it seems very simple to me SUPRAMAN.

The firearms control regulations act was passed in 1976. This law effectively prohibited residents from owning firearms simply because you could no longer register them. Exceptions were extended to police officers and guns registered before 1977. The law also required ANY registered firearms kept in the home to be "unloaded, disassembled, or bound by a trigger lock or similar device", basically neutering any attempt at self defense in your home.

In 2007, certain parts of the act were judged unconstitutional and in violation of our Second Amendment. DC moved to have "en banc" hearing (a pretty big deal BTW), which was denied, so they appealed in 08. The second court upheld that the ban and trigger lock provision violate individuals Second Amendment right to handgun ownership.

Sooooo, all Mr. Arenas had to do was legally register his firearms whenever he purchased them. He was arrested for "carrying a pistol without a license", a felony. Bringing said firearms to the arena violated NBA policy, but more importantly, also violated DC law for bringing a firearm (registered or not) into a privately owned public place.

Let me add, that if reports are true that he has upwards of 200 firearms, and they are ALL unregistered, he deserves the full extent of the law. His goofball defense, or the other excuse about taking the guns out of his home because of his daughter are insulting. Even if either of them were true, he was still not handling and owning firearms correctly or LEGALLY. If you're going to be a gun owner, be a responsible owner for christ's sake. rolleyes


oh, on a last note, what he thought he was going to do with a .50 S&W is a joke. The kick on that sidearm would break his spoiled little rich boy's wrists.


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Reply #114 posted 01/17/10 8:13pm

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JerseyKRS said:

SUPRMAN said:



Really? Why not?

Washington Wizards guard Gilbert Arenas was charged Thursday with felony gun possession in connection with a Dec. 21 locker room confrontation with a teammate.

Prosecutors charged Arenas with one count of carrying a pistol without a license, which carries a maximum penalty of five years in prison. The charges were filed in D.C. Superior Court in an "information," a document that often signals a plea deal.

http://www.cbsnews.com/st...7898.shtml


So why has he pled guilty and why was he charged in the District of Columbia?



he's charged with the felony because his DUMB RICH ass didn't even have his firearms REGISTERED.

He has them registered, but not in D.C.
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Reply #115 posted 01/17/10 10:23pm

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LittleBLUECorvette said:

JerseyKRS said:




he's charged with the felony because his DUMB RICH ass didn't even have his firearms REGISTERED.

He has them registered, but not in D.C.



even worse. rolleyes


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Reply #116 posted 01/27/10 10:21pm

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Damn.....both suspended without pay 4 the rest of the season.
OUCH.
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Reply #117 posted 01/27/10 10:24pm

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faint I was sooo gonna post this after reading this story hah!


Reading this thread late, but this episode immediately came to mind a few posts in.
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Reply #118 posted 01/27/10 11:12pm

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LittleBLUECorvette said:

BlackAdder7 said:

this is why I stopped watching Pro Basketball...there are no heroes in the league..not like back in the day of Walt Clyde...

Clyde dressed like a pimp.


He damn sure did. In a nutshell,Gilbert is one of the good
guys in the league.He just made a stupid decision and didn't
know how to react to a situation he made bad for himself.
I hope he puts this behind him and get back to doing what
he does best. Gilbert is one of those guys you enjoy watching
play when he's healthy.
Don't laugh at my funk
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Reply #119 posted 01/28/10 1:59am

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phunkdaddy said:

LittleBLUECorvette said:


Clyde dressed like a pimp.


He damn sure did. In a nutshell,Gilbert is one of the good
guys in the league.He just made a stupid decision and didn't
know how to react to a situation he made bad for himself.
I hope he puts this behind him and get back to doing what
he does best. Gilbert is one of those guys you enjoy watching
play when he's healthy.

Bingo ...


Arrenas and Jarvis banned for the season by Commish Stern
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