NDRU said:

As much as I loved Firefly, I think it Whedon's "Dr. Horrible" that made me go back and check out Buffy and Angel. I'm also a big fan of Dollhouse. It got off to a rocky start, but the unaired 13th episode is monumentally phenomenal and the last few episodes have been close to perfect. When executed correctly, I'm convinced it's his most intriguing concept.

cborgman said:

But that's how Joss works his magic, he really sets up the story slowly and well, so when he references something in season 6 you suddenly recall something that was mentioned as a throw away line from season 1. That is why hes such a creative writer. Unfortunately TV doesn't give time anymore to building a story. Dollhouse is a perfect example of this. The first season was slow untill half way and by the end you were like "WOW", specially after you see where civilization is headed. Now in the 2nd season the last 6 episodes of this now canceled show is firing like a souped up hot road with the end of humanity the next exit.

AlexdeParis said:

LOL jinx, but I totally agree this little show is gonna be talked bout for years to come. He's just gonna let it all blow up and end it with no one getting out alive. That's why I love him, he's not afraid to kill his characters. I think he secretly loves it.

lazycrockett said:

it's not so much the charactors or the normal girl buffy part of the first season that i mean. it's more the big bad of the season and that build-to-the-big-bad arc that lacks a bit in first season. it ends up being lots of scooby one episode monster story lines. in later seasons, they got much better at building each big bad of the season and balancing one-off stories.

i haven't watched dollhouse yet. i honestly don't think i have seen any of his shows while they are on air.

AlexdeParis said:

Yes, the first few episodes of Dollhouse didn't do much for me either, but then Joss turns everything upside down so by the end of season one, he had me watching with my mouth agape.

I have Dr Horrible on DVD, but haven't watched it yet.

sextonseven said:

What are you waiting for? It's short, it's utterly hilarious, and some of the songs are excellent. It really made me see Neil Patrick Harris in a new light.

sextonseven said:

I liked Dr. Horrible. Maybe not the end so much, but the songs are really good.

I wasn't really aware of Joss Whedlan (or whatever his name is) until I watched Dr. Horrible, and the extras were saying what a sensation it was on the internet even before it came out. Where was I during that? Looking at some mullet haired poodle man?
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NDRU said:

That's no surprise. The soundtrack from the Buffy The Vampire Slayer musical episode Once More With Feeling is one of my top 10 favorite albums from this decade.

OMG, how the hell did I forget Veronica Mars?!?

sextonseven said:

I remember seeing ads for the Buffy musical thinking "WTF is that?" I guess I just didn't get the tone of the show, since I never saw the film either. It's nice that TV is occasionally hipper than we expect it to be.

NDRU said:

The film is terrible--totally a different beast from the TV show. Please don't waste your time with it.

i liked Chasers War on Everything. pity only about 3 other orgers have probably even heard of it.

whistle said:

I thought it was too much to be honest. It was funny, of course....but there were too many moments that made me cringe., thinking those fellas were going too far.

connorhawke said:

yeah, pretty much nothing and no-one is sacred on that programme.

whistle said:

Where's Scrubs?

whistle said:

have you seen the IKEA returns?

ZombieKitten said:

How do people let these fellas get away with this stuff all the time?

there was another one i liked called The Glass House. is that one still going?

whistle said:

No, they were apparently taken off the air because they were too hard on the Prime Minister and the network got a railing.

Rubbish...he deserved it!

connorhawke said:

that Dave Hughes is a funny bastard.

connorhawke said:

what about Kevin Rudd PM
now there is a good show

In no real order here is my top shows of 2000-2009 (no shows that started in the 90's)

4400
Monk
The Dead Zone
Justice League Unlinited
lost
Freaky Links
Smallville
Wolf Lake
Haunted
Birds of prey
Fire fly
Veronica Mars
Super Natural
True Blood
Medium
Jericho
Heros
Chuck
Journeyman
Merlin
[Edited 12/27/09 20:03pm]

I also think Six Feet Under is a MAJOR omission. Any critic worth their salt would surely place it top 20, if not top 5. And no Curb Your Enthusiasm! Such influential shows. This guy mustve been smokin some major greenery to have forgotten those!

Also rate Peep Show, The Office original and Extras highly.