I really hope that I am not the only one who is sick of the really ridiculous wire fighting scenes in EVERY Hollywood movie. I mean, there are wire fighting moves in dramas now... probably.

What is wrong with just beating the shit out of each other? Why do they think that they have to make the good guy/girl flip around 50 times and then spin a few dozen times before landing 14 kicks to the face?

It's a fashion, like wearing a clorox-box on your head...it will pass...

teller said:

One can only dream of the day when there are NO more wire fighting moves... that shit is fucking annoying.

:EVIL:

Whatever happened to "Every Which Way but Loose?"

What about when some brainless, ugly, talentless motherfucker gets in a movie, and they make him skate down a god damn railing on a dish tray?

All the while, outrunning gunshots.

teller said:

"Right turn, Clyde..."

BattierBeMyDaddy said:

Hollywood is for shit! Fuck Hollywood... my son is watching the live-action Scooby Doo and it is annoying the shit out of me...

IceNine said:

cartoons should never be turned into live action... never... it has never been done successfully... live action is just not capable of capturing the essence of a cartoon...

EllisDee said:

Right... and Hollywood always caters to the lowest common-denominator, therefore the movies will suck even more!

NARC.





that movie is the shit. no wire fighting, just pure grit.



i sound like a dumbass slogan.

IceNine said:

and as long as people keep going to the theaters to watch this bullshit, hollywood will keep cranking it out...

can you imagine in 20 years when they do "the simpsons" live action movie... i will kill somebody...

I whole-heartedly agree that wire fighting maneuvers in movies completely suck.

Thanks for the chance to get that off my chest.

salaciousV said:

You are working the promotional department now, right???

You are the one responsible for tricking the movie-going public into thinking that Vin Diesel is an "actor," right?

:LOL:

I cannot WAIT for the matrix II..!!!

DORA said:

There will be plenty of wire bullshit in that one... the Matrix helped fuck movies up really bad...

"Bullet time" and the proliferation of wire fighting are directly related to the popularity of The Matrix.

Damn them! :EVIL:

IceNine said:

hehehehe i have a pic of carrie ann moss holding one of my babies...


i love her..!!


who gives a fuck about the rest...

ice take the blue pill




really i am just playing..!! no flaming...

EllisDee said:

A live-action Simpson's movie will make me murder EVERYONE I see... :EVIL:

IceNine said:

it's coming... hollywood is going to make live action versions of every cartoon ever, no matter how good or bad it was...

when the get to "2 stupid dogs," you should begin to worry... "simpsons" will not be far behind...

EllisDee said:

You mean there's gonna be a ShirtTales and MunChiChi's live action movie?

IceNine said:

The Matrix was the absolute dogs bollocks. I love it!

The thing is, that wire fighting was brought to a new level and made popular by this film. The rest are imitators.

Also, due to the premise of the movie it is completely understandable how they can do it, unlike many of its imitators.

I'm with Dora, bring on Matrix II.

bkw said:

I am not criticizing The Matrix, really... I am saying that the imitators suck and that The Matrix is the reason that these imitators imitate... Damn, I hate that crap.

It worked in The Matrix because they were in a computer program and the laws of physics did not apply... it does not work in movies that do not take place in a world without our laws of physics. That was my point.

The Matrix = cool
All others with wire fighting and "bullet time" = shit

See where I'm coming from?

I agree.

I do have to add though, that I actually experienced great pleasure watching Bruce Lee do this.

IceNine said:

Yes I do. We are in 100% agreement!

LaVisHh said:

Bruce Lee, Jackie Chan, etal did not totally overdo the effect... many martial arts films are based out of a sort of mythology where masters had magical powers of a sort and could fly, etc. These effects are fine when used in the context of fantasy or things of that nature, but they are terribly annoying when used in every fucking fighting scene in every Hollywood movie.

How long has it been since you have seen a realistic fight in a movie? I have seen a good number of real fights and NONE of them look like anything in a movie...

:LOL:

IceNine said:

Oh, I agree with you!


I watched all the hype over Crouching Dragon, Hidden Tiger(?), then saw the movie.



PALEEZ... I know it got rave reviews and many people liked it, but all the flying?

Oh, plus I do not watch many movies. Maybe one or two a year.

LaVisHh said:

The wire things in Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon were based out of fantasy and not reality, so they actually worked. Being able to basically fly and do all that stuff is common in tradition martial arts movies and it is also part of the mythology of the whole deal. That makes it work...

What my problem with that crap is comes with the wire fighting in pretty much every movie out there... these movies are not "fantasies" so to speak, in that they are meant to be thrillers or whatever and are not based out of a fantasy world. There is no reason for a guy in a bar fight to be on wires in a police drama, but it happens...

IceNine said:

I guess I am not missing anything, eh?

The last movie I saw was Hannibal, I think. Before that, it was The Gladiator...

I rarely watch television, so that gives you a good idea of what I have seen, lately.

I'll get my nose out of a thread I have no business in.

Well, I don't pick my movies, I just fly people in them!
I do agree with ya though, I think WAY TO MUCH credit is given to wire flying. I do think most of it looks totally stupid and hokey, but I got to tell ya it's what the younger crowd wants to see. They could care less if it's real people or a computer generated one or a darn robot! They want to see anything that has an "Asain" flare to it.

The reason I say "Asian" is because the Choreographers behind the flying on "Matrix" and such are guys from China. Much of which don't speak English, but they come here on a Visa as a "Specialist." If you live in L.A. and have gone to a movie recently, you might see a minute feature prior to the movie, put on by the LA Times Newspaper. It features the "China Men" that do much of the wire choregraphy. They did Triple X and are on my show. They call the head leader of their group "The Master"! Funny thing is it shows them pulling the ropes and flying eachother, but the people who rigged all of the wires and harnessed all the people weren't them! It was the crew I'm on and we didn't get in the piece for even a second! We aren't as cool as they are I guess. We are just good hard working "Special Effects Men and Women"!

But more than that I have to ask you what is up with the craze towards Anime? My Neices and Nephews LOVE Anime Cartoons! How can the kids watch that stuff? Dragon Ball Z, oh my gosh, my 14 yr. old Niece has been watching that for yrs. It's like a Soap Opera Cartoon! I don't get it!

My boss was looking to work on "Superman", but turned it down. THANK GOODNESS! I don't want to do another movie with all the flying in it! I'm glad to be employed, but my gosh we have run this boat into the ground!

Glad to hear others agree.

Pece Ya'll

Anyone see the trailer for Kill Bill by Quentin Tarantino?
looks great!