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Reply #30 posted 12/14/09 3:49am

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nyse said:

DesireeNevermind said:

I got back into eating meat once i started eating fish. I got into fish once I started loading on tofu sauteed with veggies in a fishy broth. The tofu led to the fish, the fish led to the chicken, the chicken led to the meat and thus I stopped being a vegetarian. Which is good cuz vegetarianism just made me chubby...all that damn bread cuz I missed having something to sink my teeth into besides raw vegs. Oh well, I probably will go back to being a vegetarian if this constipation doesn't let up.


me to... i got back into meat with fish... I was a vegitarian 4 six months.

i was the healthiest in my life.. but u started shedding a lot of weight, I went from 143 to 129. so i went back to meat cause a few family and friends were a bit worried...

so i starte with fish... then chicken... next thing i know im eating steak with blood oozing out the side as i cut into it... i'm 140 again and i concider myself "out of shape"...lol

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Reply #31 posted 12/14/09 7:36am

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i was a strict vegetarian from 1996-1999 but i gave it up because
of my mom's cooking which is incredible and she'd make the most
delicious stews and whatnot and i'd sit there with my mouth just
watering and caved in.

still restrict myself to eating red meat twice a week, at most and
include two vegetarian and one vegan day per week. fish about two
times a week and chicken once.
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Reply #32 posted 12/14/09 7:37am

vivid

I just found me some chicken and chowed down.
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Reply #33 posted 12/14/09 8:05am

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nyse said:

DesireeNevermind said:

I got back into eating meat once i started eating fish. I got into fish once I started loading on tofu sauteed with veggies in a fishy broth. The tofu led to the fish, the fish led to the chicken, the chicken led to the meat and thus I stopped being a vegetarian. Which is good cuz vegetarianism just made me chubby...all that damn bread cuz I missed having something to sink my teeth into besides raw vegs. Oh well, I probably will go back to being a vegetarian if this constipation doesn't let up.


me to... i got back into meat with fish... I was a vegitarian 4 six months.

i was the healthiest in my life.. but u started shedding a lot of weight, I went from 143 to 129. so i went back to meat cause a few family and friends were a bit worried...

so i starte with fish... then chicken... next thing i know im eating steak with blood oozing out the side as i cut into it... i'm 140 again and i concider myself "out of shape"...lol

fish2
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Reply #34 posted 12/14/09 8:57am

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KidaDynamite said:

nyse said:



me to... i got back into meat with fish... I was a vegitarian 4 six months.

i was the healthiest in my life.. but u started shedding a lot of weight, I went from 143 to 129. so i went back to meat cause a few family and friends were a bit worried...

so i starte with fish... then chicken... next thing i know im eating steak with blood oozing out the side as i cut into it... i'm 140 again and i concider myself "out of shape"...lol

fish2
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no no NO! faint

lol !
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Reply #35 posted 12/14/09 9:01am

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matthewgrant said:

KidaDynamite said:



no no NO! faint

lol !

If I see the littlest blood coming out of my meat, even if it's just a little pink I'm like "the hell if I will eat that! hmph! " lol
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Reply #36 posted 12/14/09 9:49am

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matthewgrant said:

KoolEaze said:

I used to be a vegetarian when I was 18 but I didn´t really know much about nutrition back then and I ate like a fool.I was also taking a lot of medicine at that time which depleted my system of zinc and iron so the vegetarian diet I was following wasn´t a very smart thing to do and the doctor had to give me vitamin shots and he gave me zinc and iron supplements. I started eating meat again until the whole mad cow disease thing broke out in 1999....that´s when I became a vegetarian again not only because I was worried about my health but also for ethical reasons.
This second vegetarian phase lasted from 1999-2004 but then I occasionally started eating fish again because I really craved it and noticed how my muscles grew much bigger and looked more toned. I also ate less when I started eating fish again,gone were the cravings for tons of carbs.
Actually it´s a very long story but yes, I´m an ex-vegetarian and I was pretty strict when I still was a vegetarian. I don´t feel comfortable eating meat, poultry or fish (in my opinion, there is really no such distinction, it´s all really meat to me, regardless of the species I´m eating).
What I found out is that there is no one rule for every single person. What works for one person may not work for someone else,and it also makes a huge difference whether you´re male or female or what kind of aims in life you have, how you want to look or how you want to feel.
Biologically, it´s perfectly possible to live without eating meat but that should not take away from the fact that meat really works wonders for some people.
Another point is that my decision to eat meat again was also because of the psychological stress that being a vegetarian would cause for me....like not eating food that´s being offered to you by relatives, your mom,your friends, or the social pressure, or the craving you have when you walk next to a good restaurant, or maybe being some sort of double outsider in some occasions.

awesome. thanks for the response. biggrin
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Hey, no problem, you´re welcome, it was my pleasure...your question made me reflect on those times and my current diet. wink

It seems that most people in this thread seem to have some apologetic tone when it comes to eating meat, especially red meat...like it´s okay to kill species such as fish or mussels and shrimp but not so okay to kill cows, for instance. Or some mention being a pesco-vegetarian....which is cool, BUT....in my opinion, you either are a vegetarian, or you are not. There can be no such thing as a pesco-vegetarian, really. It still involves killing an animal.

And some seem to eat meat every now and then but it´s always followed by this sorry-sounding, apologetic "....but only once in a blue moon!" lol

Of course it´s a good thing to keep your consumption of red meat or any other meat in check but hey, as an ex-vegetarian (1999-2004) I will openly admit that for me, it was never about not liking meat or anything like that.I really like meat, red or white or whatever, I don´t care, I enjoy eating dead animals regardless of the species but I don´t feel fully comfortable with it ....without wanting to go into details now....but, one thing is for sure ...whenever I DO EAT meat, I make sure to enjoy it to the fullest, because you might as well enjoy eating dead animals if you eat them anyway....no need to feel sorry or say "I eat meat but very rarely!".

Another thing is that I often hear and read about people losing weight when they are vegetarians but with me ,this really wasn´t the case, I developed an enormous craving for carbs such as bread, pasta, potato chips and fatty stuff like roasted peanuts (granted, peanuts are actually good for you).

In this thread, Thekidsgirl seems to be the only one except me who put on weight while being a vegetarian.Most people say they lost weight. A friend of mine also lost weight but he was a vegan. I put on some good 15 pounds at least.

Any other people out there who got fat while being a vegetarian?
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Reply #37 posted 12/14/09 12:46pm

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nyse said:

DesireeNevermind said:

I got back into eating meat once i started eating fish. I got into fish once I started loading on tofu sauteed with veggies in a fishy broth. The tofu led to the fish, the fish led to the chicken, the chicken led to the meat and thus I stopped being a vegetarian. Which is good cuz vegetarianism just made me chubby...all that damn bread cuz I missed having something to sink my teeth into besides raw vegs. Oh well, I probably will go back to being a vegetarian if this constipation doesn't let up.


me to... i got back into meat with fish... I was a vegitarian 4 six months.

i was the healthiest in my life.. but u started shedding a lot of weight, I went from 143 to 129. so i went back to meat cause a few family and friends were a bit worried...

so i starte with fish... then chicken... next thing i know im eating steak with blood oozing out the side as i cut into it... i'm 140 again and i concider myself "out of shape"...lol

fish2
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I hear ya....I don't eat the med rare steak anymore but when I first got back into it,,,the redder the better.


Plus red meat was cheaper than fish, although I like fish better. When I was vegetarian though, I went from 125 to 140 like nothing. Again it was all the bread/butter and pasta and nuts and tofu and beans. doh! I thought I was doing myself some sort of health favor. And I ate apples up the yang! Too many apples are fattening cuz of all that damn sugar!
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Reply #38 posted 12/14/09 8:04pm

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I personally LOVE red meat. And yes medium rare is how I order it.

I love vegetarian cuisine. And I buy a lot of vegetarian protein sources and such but can never keep up. That shit is expensive. And I basically have to buy two grocery bills, because that man will not be without pork, beef, poultry, or fish. So when my vegetarian stuff runs out, its back to meat. until I have neough money to buy that shit again.

But for the most part vegetarian food is awesome.
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Reply #39 posted 12/14/09 10:24pm

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Reply #40 posted 12/14/09 11:01pm

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I could go for a big thick steak right about now. lol
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Reply #41 posted 12/14/09 11:41pm

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vainandy said:

I could go for a big thick steak right about now. lol


I hate steak...
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Reply #42 posted 12/15/09 12:02am

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pplrain said:

vainandy said:

I could go for a big thick steak right about now. lol


I hate steak...


Try some pig ear sandwiches. They're delicious. lol

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Reply #43 posted 12/15/09 12:10am

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vainandy said:



Try some pig ear sandwiches. They're delicious. lol



My hubby had cooked a deer heart and ate it.... exclaim I almost threw up.
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Reply #44 posted 12/15/09 12:16am

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pplrain said:

vainandy said:



Try some pig ear sandwiches. They're delicious. lol



My hubby had cooked a deer heart and ate it.... exclaim I almost threw up.


I've had deer meat and I didn't see what was supposed to be so great about it. Maybe I didn't have it from someone that knew how to cook it, I don't know. But I'm not going to eat anything's heart.
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Reply #45 posted 12/15/09 12:23am

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vainandy said:



I've had deer meat and I didn't see what was supposed to be so great about it. Maybe I didn't have it from someone that knew how to cook it, I don't know. But I'm not going to eat anything's heart.


It is very lean meat and needs to be marinated for at least one day to soften.

Reminded me of a "heart, liver and kidney" scary story I heard when I was little. Nevertheless I did rib him quite a bit about the "heart, liver and kidney, I'm at your doorstep" line.
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Reply #46 posted 12/15/09 6:57am

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KoolEaze said:

Or some mention being a pesco-vegetarian....which is cool, BUT....in my opinion, you either are a vegetarian, or you are not. There can be no such thing as a pesco-vegetarian, really. It still involves killing an animal.


But pesco-vegetarian or pescetarian describes one's diet, what they eat, not one's moral code about eating animals. Just as lacto-ovo vegetarian describes someone who eats vegetables, eggs and dairy, pesco-vegetarian desribes someone who eats vegetables, fish and seafood.
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Reply #47 posted 12/15/09 7:02am

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KoolEaze said:


Any other people out there who got fat while being a vegetarian?


I'm a fat pescetarian. smile
I had a "flexitarian" diet for about 4-5 years before going fully pescetarian. I ate meat maybe 1-3 times a month or so. I've been pescetarian for a year and a half and eat fish/seafood about once every other month.

It didn't specifically cause me to gain weight, but it didn't cause me to lose either. I've been up and down but mostly up, all through cutting out meat.
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Reply #48 posted 12/15/09 9:04am

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CarrieMpls said:

KoolEaze said:

Or some mention being a pesco-vegetarian....which is cool, BUT....in my opinion, you either are a vegetarian, or you are not. There can be no such thing as a pesco-vegetarian, really. It still involves killing an animal.


But pesco-vegetarian or pescetarian describes one's diet, what they eat, not one's moral code about eating animals. Just as lacto-ovo vegetarian describes someone who eats vegetables, eggs and dairy, pesco-vegetarian desribes someone who eats vegetables, fish and seafood.



Why, then, would someone voluntarily be a pesco-vegetarian if not for ethical or health reasons? Ovo-lacto vegetarians at least don´t eat meat, so there is some sort of ethical reasoning behind it...but pesco-vegetarian? Don´t get me wrong, I´m in no way questioning or criticizing your decisions or your reasons, it´s just something I don´t really get. Maybe your case is different but, if there´s an ethical reasoning behind it, I find pesco-vegetarianism almost "racist" in the sense of being discriminating against certain animals...or, maybe "specie-ist" is a better word. It´s specieism.
Not that I have a holier than thou attitude, because, as I said previously, my vegetarian years are behind me but I think if people are pesco-vegetarians then they might as well eat red meat instead because red meat animals are at least not endangered species like most fish are.
See what I mean ? Ethically speaking , I find eating red meat and chicken more ethical, though that´s still debatable because of the suffering those poor animals go through but still...they are not endangered species like fish.
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Reply #49 posted 12/15/09 9:39am

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KoolEaze said:

CarrieMpls said:



But pesco-vegetarian or pescetarian describes one's diet, what they eat, not one's moral code about eating animals. Just as lacto-ovo vegetarian describes someone who eats vegetables, eggs and dairy, pesco-vegetarian desribes someone who eats vegetables, fish and seafood.



Why, then, would someone voluntarily be a pesco-vegetarian if not for ethical or health reasons? Ovo-lacto vegetarians at least don´t eat meat, so there is some sort of ethical reasoning behind it...but pesco-vegetarian? Don´t get me wrong, I´m in no way questioning or criticizing your decisions or your reasons, it´s just something I don´t really get. Maybe your case is different but, if there´s an ethical reasoning behind it, I find pesco-vegetarianism almost "racist" in the sense of being discriminating against certain animals...or, maybe "specie-ist" is a better word. It´s specieism.
Not that I have a holier than thou attitude, because, as I said previously, my vegetarian years are behind me but I think if people are pesco-vegetarians then they might as well eat red meat instead because red meat animals are at least not endangered species like most fish are.
See what I mean ? Ethically speaking , I find eating red meat and chicken more ethical, though that´s still debatable because of the suffering those poor animals go through but still...they are not endangered species like fish.



I'm a vegetarian -- no seafood, red meat, poultry, nothing. But I love cheese and will eat things with eggs and milk in them. (Although I don't like the taste of eggs or milk by themselves.) I grew up on a farm - every day it was steak, pork chops, roast beef, ground beef, ham, etc. barf I never liked the taste or texture of it and wouldn't eat any of it except ground beef or pork chops (Iowa chops are good!) occasionally. In college I stopped eating meat all together. Not because I'm necessarily against killing animals for food - I grew up on a working farm after all. (And I wear leather shoes/belts). I simply don't like the taste or texture of it. But yeah, I find it weird when people say they're vegetarians but eat fish or seafood.

I can't say that I crave meat. Maybe a nice grilled butterfly Iowa pork chop or a cheeseburger every now and then; but walking through the meat aisle at the grocery grosses me out so I never buy any meat. And I refuse to order meat at restaurants because I don't trust it, and I'm really picky about fat/gristle/doneness.

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Reply #50 posted 12/15/09 10:44am

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I'm a fat pescetarian. smile


I'm a fat secretarian. Love meat.
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Reply #51 posted 12/15/09 10:56am

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I am not a vegetarian (though everyone always seems to think I am for some reason!)

I have been through phases, though, and I always come to the conclusion that eating meat is gross, at best (if it's not immoral or unhealthy).

It's just so tasty. lol Plus I get bored eating the same thing. Beans are good, but eventually I need a new flavor.

I am pretty sure some day I'll try to give up meat again. I just don't know when.
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