ernestsewell said: Huggiebear said: Define virginity, as I have never been anally penetrated as I refuse to be, but have done it to men and a woman. If taking it in the rear is seen as sex only and nothing else counts, then I am a 33 year old virgin.
50 is a bloody long time to be a virgin for, thats too long I eckon, if she hasn't lost her cherry by then, its too late. Her sex drive would have peaked at least a decade ago. First off, every person is different. 50 doesn't equal sexual death by any means. The girl still looks and acts like she's 30! No one would ever clock her at 50. Second, she's a full on virgin. She's never had ANY sort of sexual contact. The most she's had with a guy are a few kisses. No groping, no anal sex, no vaginal sex, no oral sex, no hand jobs, no dry humping, no vibrators..NOTHING. I'm excited for her, just that she's FINALLY getting married, and married to a wonderful man that she knows is for her, and that she'll finally be enjoying some naked time w/ a person God put in her life. Sorry Ernest I can't agree, how a church and a woman can conspire to be totally virginial at 50 is scary. I am assuming your church is not one of the liberated gay churches like the one I belong too, that teaches us that God loves and dosen't judge. So what are u going 2 do? R u just gonna sit there and watch? I'm not gonna stop until the war is over. Its gonna take a long time | |
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Jeffiner said: JustErin said: My father is from Scotland. I think we've made our point Erin yup, all scottish chicks are double baggers | |
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Huggiebear said: Sorry Ernest I can't agree, how a church and a woman can conspire to be totally virginial at 50 is scary. I am assuming your church is not one of the liberated gay churches like the one I belong too, that teaches us that God loves and dosen't judge.
Okay if we're not going to judge, let's keep the facts straight, in comparison to what you said. 1) No one mentioned "church". I said "God". Huge difference. 2) No one said anything about a conspiracy. It's a DECISION on her part. Who are you, or anyone, to JUDGE that? 3) "Scary"? Why? Because you started sticking your dick in people when you were 15 or something? THAT is scary, but I ain't judging. There's a thing called free will, and she's exercised her will on her own. No "church" brow beat her into submission to wait. I've know this woman for just under 20 years. She's quite independent, and doesn't let ANYONE brow beat her into anything. What's scary is that people dump on someone's decision about their body, yet if someone told you to not sleep with who you're sleeping with, you'd start making signs and marching up and down Main St. before sunset. Sounds a bit hypocritical when you look at it like that. 4) My "church" and her "church" are different places. I live 1100 miles from her. We met at once church almost 20 years ago. I've not been to that church since about 1993. She's not been there since 1996. So your anti-church argument is invalid. 5) Me being gay has nothing to do with her decision to remain chaste until next Friday evening. 6) Good for you, your church is the best in the whole wide world, ever. Sounds like every other church who thinks they're the ONLY church worth attending. I grew up in a church like that, and I've long searched for a group of people that did NOT have that mindset. It's great your church is gay friendly. I wish more were, but don't judge me, or my friend, for decisions we make. So what, she's a virgin. She didn't sleep with a hundred men in order to get to the one she's going to call her husband now. Why is waiting so "scary" (a stupid term; as if you're going to run away if you were to meet her in person)? | |
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Huggiebear said: ernestsewell said: First off, every person is different. 50 doesn't equal sexual death by any means. The girl still looks and acts like she's 30! No one would ever clock her at 50. Second, she's a full on virgin. She's never had ANY sort of sexual contact. The most she's had with a guy are a few kisses. No groping, no anal sex, no vaginal sex, no oral sex, no hand jobs, no dry humping, no vibrators..NOTHING. I'm excited for her, just that she's FINALLY getting married, and married to a wonderful man that she knows is for her, and that she'll finally be enjoying some naked time w/ a person God put in her life. Sorry Ernest I can't agree, how a church and a woman can conspire to be totally virginial at 50 is scary. I am assuming your church is not one of the liberated gay churches like the one I belong too, that teaches us that God loves and dosen't judge. Huggie...follow that last line that you just typed out...because whether you realize it or not, you're judging that woman right now [Edited 12/11/09 13:58pm] | |
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unique said: Jeffiner said: I think we've made our point Erin yup, all scottish chicks are double baggers [Edited 12/11/09 15:36pm] | |
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I would love to see a virgin man my age. unlucky7 reincarnated | |
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Ottensen said: Huggiebear said: Sorry Ernest I can't agree, how a church and a woman can conspire to be totally virginial at 50 is scary. I am assuming your church is not one of the liberated gay churches like the one I belong too, that teaches us that God loves and dosen't judge. Huggie...follow that last line that you just typed out...because whether you realize it or not, you're judging that woman right now Exactly! You hit the nail on the head. I think Huggie was projecting his own hatred of the church onto a woman who made a faith based, personal decision. In a more general way, I'm not sure why certain folks seem threatened, or down right hostile, toward 1) a woman they don't know, and 2) an idea that really shouldn't be so foreign anymore, yet is an alien idea. Someone waits until they're married to have sex? Is that REALLY such a "scary" idea, as Huggie put it? What's scary is those who claim to "celebrate diversity" are the first to judge when someone isn't the same kind of diversity as they are. How fucking hypocritical. | |
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SCNDLS said: Ottensen said: That sounds very nice. I'm very happy for your friend! While I don't know any virgins of advanced age, I will say that your friend Gale will have a lot to look forward to sexually having waited this long. Something changes physiologically in a woman's body as she ages and the sexual experience becomes very intensified...it's like nerve endings go haywire (in a good way). I had always heard about this, read about it, but never gave much though to it...until after I hit 35...and holy hot damn if sex didn't suddenly become like a space shuttle blast off . I tell you, if I knew in my 20's what I know now ...I think I might not have ever married and could have been happy keeping myself locked under a chastity belt until 30, I swear to God. I've always been a very sexual being, but post 35 sex will knock the wind out of your chest on the first stroke and have you seeing stars. Your friend is going to enjoy conjugal connection with her new husband, indeed [Edited 12/8/09 23:43pm] But what if he can't fuck? Let's be real, it's a lot more non-fucking mofos walking this Earth than dudes who know how to make you see stars. Waiting for 50 years is no guarantee that HE knows what he's doing or how to teach her about sex. I'm all for being true to your beliefs but sometimes you gotta kiss some toads to find a shoe that fits. Just sayin . . . the odds of mindblowing sex the first time out the gate are definitely not good. Could you imagine being yoked up for LIFE with the first dude you had sex with??? 'why y'all trying to say goodbye? I didn't go anywhere, I'm right here, im all around you,always..'
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ernestsewell said: Ottensen said: Huggie...follow that last line that you just typed out...because whether you realize it or not, you're judging that woman right now Exactly! You hit the nail on the head. I think Huggie was projecting his own hatred of the church onto a woman who made a faith based, personal decision. In a more general way, I'm not sure why certain folks seem threatened, or down right hostile, toward 1) a woman they don't know, and 2) an idea that really shouldn't be so foreign anymore, yet is an alien idea. Someone waits until they're married to have sex? Is that REALLY such a "scary" idea, as Huggie put it? What's scary is those who claim to "celebrate diversity" are the first to judge when someone isn't the same kind of diversity as they are. How fucking hypocritical. [Edited 12/12/09 1:43am] So what are u going 2 do? R u just gonna sit there and watch? I'm not gonna stop until the war is over. Its gonna take a long time | |
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Ottensen said: Huggiebear said: Sorry Ernest I can't agree, how a church and a woman can conspire to be totally virginial at 50 is scary. I am assuming your church is not one of the liberated gay churches like the one I belong too, that teaches us that God loves and dosen't judge. Huggie...follow that last line that you just typed out...because whether you realize it or not, you're judging that woman right now [Edited 12/11/09 13:58pm] I'm not God, I am Huggiebear a mere mortal with plenty of flaws and a big old judgemental mouth. So what are u going 2 do? R u just gonna sit there and watch? I'm not gonna stop until the war is over. Its gonna take a long time | |
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did I already say I hope he can get it up? | |
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ZombieKitten said: did I already say I hope he can get it up?
That's what Viagra is for | |
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Ottensen said: ZombieKitten said: did I already say I hope he can get it up?
That's what Viagra is for it might not be a physical problem My auntie waited until she married and the guy she married simply was unable to have sex with her my mum has always advised me to try before you buy | |
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peb319 said: SCNDLS said: But what if he can't fuck? Let's be real, it's a lot more non-fucking mofos walking this Earth than dudes who know how to make you see stars. Waiting for 50 years is no guarantee that HE knows what he's doing or how to teach her about sex. I'm all for being true to your beliefs but sometimes you gotta kiss some toads to find a shoe that fits. Just sayin . . . the odds of mindblowing sex the first time out the gate are definitely not good. Could you imagine being yoked up for LIFE with the first dude you had sex with??? Exactly! Frightening prospect, huh? | |
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ZombieKitten said: Ottensen said: That's what Viagra is for it might not be a physical problem My auntie waited until she married and the guy she married simply was unable to have sex with her my mum has always advised me to try before you buy Like with shoes, or at least keep your receipt and don't scuff up the soles so you can return 'em. [Edited 12/12/09 8:56am] | |
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CalhounSq said: CarrieLee said: I work with a guy who just turned 53 and is a virgin. He's had girlfriends but I'm not sure what he's done. I can't imagine much of anything. He still lives at home, his mom brings him to work, picks him up from work and they have Saturday lunch dates every week. It's all very bizarre to me. If he were my son I'd kick him out and get him a whore.
& yes, it IS bizarre He's on vacation this week, but him and his mom are here now so he can pick up his paycheck. They're talking about how she's taking him to go get a haircut. Unbelievable! | |
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CarrieLee said: CalhounSq said: & yes, it IS bizarre He's on vacation this week, but him and his mom are here now so he can pick up his paycheck. They're talking about how she's taking him to go get a haircut. Unbelievable! So he doesn't know how to drive? Thats probably one of his many problems. What is he going to do when she meets her maker? "Nobody makes me bleed my own blood...NOBODY!"
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There's SO much emphasis on one losing virginity nowadays, it really makes me admire the ones who preserve it by CHOICE,,,,it def tell me that they're not easily influenced by peer pressure.
And you guys keep forgetting that sex is derived completely from the brain,,,,it doesn't matter how old she is, if the mind set is fresh and focused,,,,so will be the intercourse. I really think its wonderful that she'll get married, congratulations | |
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ThreadCula said: CarrieLee said: He's on vacation this week, but him and his mom are here now so he can pick up his paycheck. They're talking about how she's taking him to go get a haircut. Unbelievable! So he doesn't know how to drive? Thats probably one of his many problems. What is he going to do when she meets her maker? He used to drive, but he has an 'anger problem' which led to road rage. He's a nervous wreck all of the time. It's really sad because if his mother had just let him go he would have been fine in time. When she kicks the bucket he will stay in the house and rely on his sister that lives across the street! | |
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CarrieLee said: ThreadCula said: So he doesn't know how to drive? Thats probably one of his many problems. What is he going to do when she meets her maker? He used to drive, but he has an 'anger problem' which led to road rage. He's a nervous wreck all of the time. It's really sad because if his mother had just let him go he would have been fine in time. When she kicks the bucket he will stay in the house and rely on his sister that lives across the street! This is horrible of me to say but why do I think he has several bodies in his basement. MyeternalgrattitudetoPhil&Val.Herman said "We want sweaty truckers at the truck stop! We want cigar puffing men that look like they wanna beat the living daylights out of us" Val"sporking is spooning with benefits" | |
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CarrieLee said: CalhounSq said: & yes, it IS bizarre He's on vacation this week, but him and his mom are here now so he can pick up his paycheck. They're talking about how she's taking him to go get a haircut. Unbelievable! He's gonna be single for ever | |
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MIGUELGOMEZ said: CarrieLee said: He used to drive, but he has an 'anger problem' which led to road rage. He's a nervous wreck all of the time. It's really sad because if his mother had just let him go he would have been fine in time. When she kicks the bucket he will stay in the house and rely on his sister that lives across the street! This is horrible of me to say but why do I think he has several bodies in his basement. it does seem a bit Norman Batish | |
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MIGUELGOMEZ said: CarrieLee said: He used to drive, but he has an 'anger problem' which led to road rage. He's a nervous wreck all of the time. It's really sad because if his mother had just let him go he would have been fine in time. When she kicks the bucket he will stay in the house and rely on his sister that lives across the street! This is horrible of me to say but why do I think he has several bodies in his basement. I always look for places to hide at work in case he brings in an Uzi one day... | |
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CarrieLee said: MIGUELGOMEZ said: This is horrible of me to say but why do I think he has several bodies in his basement. I always look for places to hide at work in case he brings in an Uzi one day... Girl, you better have desk by the rear exits | |
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SCNDLS said: CarrieLee said: I always look for places to hide at work in case he brings in an Uzi one day... Girl, you better have desk by the rear exits No shit, right? I'm doomed. I should see if I can fit into my locker in the back room... | |
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SCNDLS said: peb319 said: Exactly! Frightening prospect, huh? although he gave me a beautiful child..with soulfull brown eyes (which you've noticed ) i'm glad it didn't come out that way.. and the second one too..by the way. another beautiful boy with big blue eyes.. i just couldn't see staying with either.. so i used to believe in that... it's a choice people make for themselves..and it works for her not so much for me but that's life right? and she doesn't need me to be proud of her.. but i am impressed [Edited 12/17/09 20:43pm] 'why y'all trying to say goodbye? I didn't go anywhere, I'm right here, im all around you,always..'
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god is alive | |
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nyse said: god is alive
He sure is. | |
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My 53 year old neighbour has remained single her whole life and never dated. I think sex is just not meant to be a part of her life
and her 90 year old neighbour has remained a spinster her whole life as well. While obviously I'm not chit chatting about sexual history with a 90 year old I think it's actually not so unusual. | |
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Well, as an update, my friend did get married this past Friday. She was so beautiful. Apparently her and her new husband both love "The Princess & The Frog" movie, partly because of the interracial relationship. (Remember, she's black from DC, and he's white and from Revel, France.) One of the photos she uploaded on Saturday was a Diptych type photo, one side of her and her husband in a dance pose, and the other of action figures of The Princess and The Prince from the movie, with Gale and her husband's ring around either of their necks. I asked her if she actually found a cake topper for Princess and Frog from the movie, and she said no. She went and bought the action figures to put on there. It was just so perfect, and fun, and very HER.
I've actually gotten a couple of emails from her since Friday night (you'd think they'd .....you know.....all the time), and all is well. She said they got tons of gifts, and I would be between Sleep Comfort breaks, they're organizing Thank You cards. I have been a bit mournful all weekend about the whole thing. I've only know her as a single gal. I met her when I was 23 (that just blows my mind), and she was 32. I'm 41. We've just been through so much together. I realized one thing that she taught me was how to NOT be racist. And she taught me by just her being herself. I wrote a whole blog entry on it that I might post separately on the Org. I'm sad that I no longer have a single gal pal, but I'm excited to see how she changes with being married, and what new adventures life and God bring her and her husband. I know they're happy, I know they are truly put together by God, and I know she's a bit knowing of things she's never been able to experience to this point. Now, if only I could tell her I'm gay. | |
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