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It's amazing how kids piss away a College Education. I knew shit like this was happening in the UK.
But apparently it's pervasive here in Thailand too. Essentially, college kids are not getting their degrees after attending college for years and years. Or they're finding ways of getting their parents to 'pay' for the degrees. It's not every child. And it's not even the majority of children. But it's still enough of a issue to befuddle me. I mean, growing up in the US, I would have given ANYTHING to have my parents or the state pay my way through college. I would have had a degree within 4 years, guaranteed. It took me 7 years of night school on shift rotations to get my damned 4 year degree! I swear, some kids just piss away an opportunity right before them. If you're not paying for your degree, damnit, graduate! ok, rant over. | |
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That happens all over the world, Dan 
Pisses the hell out of me, my classes are 90% filled with them. [...i think i can, i think i can, i think i can...] | |
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Due to Florida's Kinda strange, kinda awesome.
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Our kids pass their classes or they come home and go to work full time
We set expectations and rules for our college $$ investments ~ plain and simple | |
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technol21 said: Due to Florida's
What do you mean by this? Are the majority of students in Florida going on state grants and scholarships? Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.” | |
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They are spoiled, basically. They don't have to worry about "passing" college because they'll just be handed another opportunity on a silver platter. | |
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Cinnie said: They are spoiled, basically. They don't have to worry about "passing" college because they'll just be handed another opportunity on a silver platter.
Exactly. I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince. | |
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Yes, there are many, many who piss away wonderful opportunities, however,
there are many who are thankful and grateful for the opportunity they've been given. (Dammit, y'all are starting to make me sound like Positive Patty up in here!)  | |
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slimhustle said: Yes, there are many, many who piss away wonderful opportunities, however,
there are many who are thankful and grateful for the opportunity they've been given. (Dammit, y'all are starting to make me sound like Positive Patty up in here!) 
Thankfully there are | |
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Lammastide said: technol21 said: Due to Florida's
What do you mean by this? Are the majority of students in Florida going on state grants and scholarships? Florida has the Bright Futures scholarship, which used to award either 100% or 75% of tuition based on minimal merit-based requirements such as GPA, SAT/ACT scores, and community service hours. It's no longer percentage-based, but now a fixed amount (still covering most of the tuition), but it definitely makes education in Florida almost a steal. At my school, I think near 90% of the students have a Bright Futures scholarship, meaning they're only paying for housing/other expenses out of pocket, if not covered by another outside or university award. At this point, too much of state funds are going to wealthy students with families that can afford to pay for college and just blow off the opportunity. If the program increased the minimum stats for the merit-based scholarship and created a need-based award for students that really needed the money, I think students would be a lot more appreciative of their opportunity to get an education. I'm definitely appreciative and continue to work hard, as without all of these scholarships I wouldn't be able to go to school at all and I'll lose nearly all of it if my grades slip. [Edited 12/6/09 17:14pm] Kinda strange, kinda awesome.
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technol21 said: Lammastide said: What do you mean by this? Are the majority of students in Florida going on state grants and scholarships? Florida has the Bright Futures scholarship, which used to award either 100% or 75% of tuition based on minimal merit-based requirements such as GPA, SAT/ACT scores, and community service hours. It's no longer percentage-based, but now a fixed amount (still covering most of the tuition), but it definitely makes education in Florida almost a steal. At my school, I think near 90% of the students have a Bright Futures scholarship, meaning they're only paying for housing/other expenses out of pocket, if not covered by another outside or university award. At this point, too much of state funds are going to wealthy students with families that can afford to pay for college and just blow off the opportunity. If the program increased the minimum stats for the merit-based scholarship and created a need-based award for students that really needed the money, I think students would be a lot more appreciative of their opportunity to get an education. I'm definitely appreciative and continue to work hard, as without all of these scholarships I wouldn't be able to go to school at all and I'll lose nearly all of it if my grades slip. [Edited 12/6/09 17:14pm] Wow. I'd never heard of this. Is this just an undergrad thing? Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.” | |
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Lammastide said:
Wow. I'd never heard of this. Is this just an undergrad thing?
Yup. Kinda strange, kinda awesome.
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sammij said: That happens all over the world, Dan
Pisses the hell out of me, my classes are 90% filled with them. that has got to be incredibly frustrating, for those teaching them, those in class with them (working night shifts to put themselves through school  )
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You tend not to piss it away if you have to pay for it. I know I appreciate my education much more because I didn't have any help.  | |
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SCNDLS said: You tend not to piss it away if you have to pay for it. I know I appreciate my education much more because I didn't have any help. On the flip side of that, I'm not going to piss my college education away because someone did give me help and it would suck for someone who could have used the money given to me. | |
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When my brother's and I went off to college our parents set their own G.P.A we had to make each semester or quarter. We had four years to get up and out and only four years, they weren't paying another dime after. Of course they waited until we graduated and got accepted to our respective graduate schools to tell use they would help pay for our graduate studies. I set the same rules for my daughter.
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Vendetta1 said: SCNDLS said: You tend not to piss it away if you have to pay for it. I know I appreciate my education much more because I didn't have any help. On the flip side of that, I'm not going to piss my college education away because someone did give me help and it would suck for someone who could have used the money given to me.True, but a lot of 18 year olds don't necessarily see it that way. | |
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SCNDLS said: Vendetta1 said: On the flip side of that, I'm not going to piss my college education away because someone did give me help and it would suck for someone who could have used the money given to me.
True, but a lot of 18 year olds don't necessarily see it that way. | |
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Vendetta1 said: SCNDLS said: True, but a lot of 18 year olds don't necessarily see it that way. The sense of entitlement I see in a lot of teens today is really disconcerting and makes me wanna wring their necks.  But then I give thanks that I don't have to worry about all that. | |
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It's amazing to me how they foolishly think that once they graduate that they will get hired immediately by corporate america starting at 50K without any work or intern experience on their resume.  I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince. | |
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missfee said: It's amazing to me how they foolishly think that once they graduate that they will get hired immediately by corporate america starting at 50K without any work or intern experience on their resume.
Exactly. I went to school in my 20's because well I didn't have the money. But I was a news director AT graduation. I humped it. OF course I had to pay for it all, which is why I humped it. I was SO scared of not finding anything at graduation that I jumped into every professional opportunity. My brother in law flunked out of his last semester of school this year. His parents, (my in laws) drove down to where he was, and had him pack his shit and moved him back home. Needless to say he straightened out and is flying right. But his parents are paying for it...hence the screwing up. | |
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SCNDLS said: You tend not to piss it away if you have to pay for it. I know I appreciate my education much more because I didn't have any help.
I agree with this. I'm stunned at how many Uni kids piss away their education. In countries with relative wealth like the UK I would kind of expect it. The kids would be spoiled, they don't REALLY know the true impact of poverty. But in Thailand where the country only recently pulled out of third wolrd status to quickly becoming industrialized? I mean, the majority of the population still lives in some form of poverty, and there are many people who still remember rationing meals for their families. These students don't all come from rich families. Some of them come from middle class or very hard working families. And they're pissing away their opportunities due to laziness. It's quite upsetting to me, cause I worked sooooo damned hard for my degrees. | |
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Believe it or not, fixing that just may be my life's calling. | |
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