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Thread started 12/06/09 11:22am

Mstrustme

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Video Game Gay Love Scene Stirs Controversy

A same-sex love scene in a popular new game has some fans cheering – and others jeering, revealing what some experts call the homophobic underbelly of the gaming community


It's when the male elf assassin and the strapping warrior peel off their clothes and start making out that you know you've left the realm of traditional video games far, far behind. This ain't Super Mario Brothers.

It's the prelude to a same-sex love scene in the recently released role-playing game Dragon Age: Origins that has many heralding a major step for the video game industry – and has thrown into relief the homophobia within the gaming community.

“It's not trying to be over the top, it's trying to show a gay relationship in a positive light, which is certainly a big change,” says Paul Hunter, managing editor of NextGen Player, a Toronto-based gaming blog.

But while gay and lesbian characters are slowly gaining a place in video games as more than just stereotypical caricatures, the sex scene in the sword and sorcery game, released last month by Edmonton-based company BioWare and available on PC, PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 platforms, has drawn hateful comments online.


In one scene, players can choose to engage in a gay love scene with a male elf following some coy dialogue (“Is there something in your tent that needs assassinating?”). The two men are shown wearing only underwear as they kiss while lying on top of one another. The scene eventually fades to black.

A clip of the scene posted on YouTube three weeks ago has garnered more than 230,000 views and hundreds of comments. One commenter called the scene a “deranged homo-propaganda campaign.” Another said the scene is meant “to promote gayness to youth” – though the game is rated M for mature, meaning for players 17 and older – while another called it “disgusting” and “filthy.”

Many others praised the scene. “We've truly come a long way to have this in a video game as a valid option! I mean this sort of scene has happened so many other times with male/female, so why not? Gay people exist too!” one wrote.


Gay and lesbian characters have a long history in video games – rarely, however, have they been anything other than caricatures.



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Reply #1 posted 12/06/09 11:23am

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I have no comment; just came across it and decided to post
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Reply #2 posted 12/06/09 11:27am

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Mstrustme said:

I have no comment; just came across it and decided to post


You may wish to rephrase that remark. wink
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Reply #3 posted 12/06/09 11:27am

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It amazes me that two penises rubbing together causes so much hubbub.
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Reply #4 posted 12/06/09 11:34am

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IDontBelieveYouHeardMe said:

You may wish to rephrase that remark. wink


lol What does that mean?
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Reply #5 posted 12/06/09 11:36am

Vendetta1

Are there straight love scenes in video games? Then who cares?
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Mstrustme said:

IDontBelieveYouHeardMe said:

You may wish to rephrase that remark. wink


lol What does that mean?


lol. Oh, how to explain this without blushing.....
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Reply #7 posted 12/06/09 11:37am

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Vendetta1 said:

Are there straight love scenes in video games? Then who cares?


It's optional. You very much decide how it pans out
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Reply #8 posted 12/06/09 11:39am

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IDontBelieveYouHeardMe said:

lol. Oh, how to explain this without blushing.....


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Reply #9 posted 12/06/09 11:47am

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Vendetta1 said:

Are there straight love scenes in video games? Then who cares?

Exactly. Straight sex scenes are a-okay. And having tits and ass all over the place is good. And prostitution? Yes!


Folks need to settle the fuck down. This game is rated M to begin with, and the gay sex scene is optional.
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Reply #10 posted 12/06/09 7:11pm

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I think it's awesome and even better that it's optional. Congrats to Bioware! clapping
"...and If all of this Love Talk ends with Prince getting married to someone other than me, all I would like to do is give Prince a life size Purple Fabric Cloud Guitar that I made from a vintage bedspread that I used as a Christmas Tree Skirt." Tame, Feb
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Reply #11 posted 12/06/09 7:12pm

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connorhawke said:

I think it's awesome and even better that it's optional. Congrats to Bioware! clapping


Question: the article says Bioware is Edmonton-based. Where is this?
"...and If all of this Love Talk ends with Prince getting married to someone other than me, all I would like to do is give Prince a life size Purple Fabric Cloud Guitar that I made from a vintage bedspread that I used as a Christmas Tree Skirt." Tame, Feb
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Reply #12 posted 12/06/09 7:18pm

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o for fuck sake if they have a issue with a gay scene then why the fuck they CHOOSE it anyway...its just one more thing to bitch and moan about.
Smurf theme song-seriously how many fucking "La Las" can u fit into a dam song wall
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Reply #13 posted 12/06/09 7:19pm

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surprise!!!!! lol for real people need to get over it. gays arn't going anywhere, we're going to be in every form of media and entertainment, it's not a children's game and you don't HAVE to choose the gay option for the character as you play the game nuts

thanks for including everyone into the world you've created with this game, BW biggrin

connorhawke said:

connorhawke said:

I think it's awesome and even better that it's optional. Congrats to Bioware! clapping


Question: the article says Bioware is Edmonton-based. Where is this?

Alberta, Canada canada
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Reply #14 posted 12/06/09 7:29pm

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o for fuck sake if they have a issue with a gay scene then why the fuck they CHOOSE it anyway...its just one more thing to bitch and moan about.
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Reply #15 posted 12/06/09 7:53pm

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matthewgrant said:

surprise!!!!! lol for real people need to get over it. gays arn't going anywhere, we're going to be in every form of media and entertainment, it's not a children's game and you don't HAVE to choose the gay option for the character as you play the game nuts

thanks for including everyone into the world you've created with this game, BW biggrin

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Question: the article says Bioware is Edmonton-based. Where is this?

Alberta, Canada canada
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Yay for Canada then!!!! woot!

Because of the content I automatically assumed Europe until I read this.

Off-topic.....is the game any good? I love RPG's
"...and If all of this Love Talk ends with Prince getting married to someone other than me, all I would like to do is give Prince a life size Purple Fabric Cloud Guitar that I made from a vintage bedspread that I used as a Christmas Tree Skirt." Tame, Feb
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Reply #16 posted 12/07/09 3:14am

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Jesus Christ!!!

The Romans and Greeks did nothing but eat and fuck eachother...seemed to workout fine fir them and they got a shit load done - perhaps modern society c
should spend less time worrying about computer games.
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Reply #17 posted 12/07/09 3:56am

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"Another said the scene is meant “to promote gayness to youth”"

of course of alot of games center on killing someone or something.but thats ok to sell.i mean ya know
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There are others. Both Fable game have same sex relationships, Mass Effect has one and one of the Start Wars Kinghs of the old Republic. Si I am not sure why this game would cause any problems. And it is rated M.
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Reply #19 posted 12/07/09 4:54am

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Ha I watched it, the disgusting part is that they are so dirty. I know they smell horrid. They do not have some spring or magic spell to wash up with before?

well that and the voice acting and over all poorly written lines.

But I warns you at least twice!

Now before anyone says "Hot Coffee" this content was disclosed and a simular hetro sex scene was shown in one of the demos. AND the M rating warns of 'sexual exploits"

There may also be a brothel were one can have a man woman or ....!

so it seems I know what to ask for for christmas!
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connorhawke said:

connorhawke said:

I think it's awesome and even better that it's optional. Congrats to Bioware! clapping


Question: the article says Bioware is Edmonton-based. Where is this?

Canada. What's somewhat surprising is that Edmonton is the capital of Alberta, easily our most conservative province.
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Reply #21 posted 12/07/09 10:36am

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connorhawke said:

matthewgrant said:

surprise!!!!! lol for real people need to get over it. gays arn't going anywhere, we're going to be in every form of media and entertainment, it's not a children's game and you don't HAVE to choose the gay option for the character as you play the game nuts

thanks for including everyone into the world you've created with this game, BW biggrin


Alberta, Canada canada
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Yay for Canada then!!!! woot!

Because of the content I automatically assumed Europe until I read this.

Off-topic.....is the game any good? I love RPG's

Don't quote me on this, but I think there is an Edmonton in the UK somewhere...


This one's definitely ours though. canada
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Reply #22 posted 12/07/09 10:40am

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LMAO @ the male elf being the bottom lol
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Reply #23 posted 12/07/09 10:52am

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LMAO @ the male elf being the bottom lol

???
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Reply #24 posted 12/07/09 11:17am

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freakin hilarious with that song.
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Reply #25 posted 12/07/09 11:38am

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ufoclub said:

freakin hilarious with that song.

forreal, that music is not helpin' giggle
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Reply #26 posted 12/07/09 11:45am

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meow85 said:

connorhawke said:



Yay for Canada then!!!! woot!

Because of the content I automatically assumed Europe until I read this.

Off-topic.....is the game any good? I love RPG's

Don't quote me on this, but I think there is an Edmonton in the UK somewhere...


This one's definitely ours though. canada
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yup there is, one in Australia too
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Reply #27 posted 12/07/09 11:49am

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Okay, but the talent here is definitely luv4u's hometown: http://www.bioware.com/bi...o/contact/
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Reply #28 posted 12/07/09 1:30pm

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meow85 said:

connorhawke said:



Yay for Canada then!!!! woot!

Because of the content I automatically assumed Europe until I read this.

Off-topic.....is the game any good? I love RPG's

Don't quote me on this, but I think there is an Edmonton in the UK somewhere...


This one's definitely ours though. canada
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It may come as a surprise to you colonial types, but where there is a Canadian/American/Australian place was usually named after a pre-existing town in the UK.wink

Unfortunately, the "Edmonton" in London is not a quaint little village anymore - it's (mostly) an absolute dump: http://farm4.static.flick...ee7d42.jpg
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Reply #29 posted 12/07/09 5:16pm

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IDontBelieveYouHeardMe said:

meow85 said:


Don't quote me on this, but I think there is an Edmonton in the UK somewhere...


This one's definitely ours though. canada
[Edited 12/7/09 10:37am]


It may come as a surprise to you colonial types, but where there is a Canadian/American/Australian place was usually named after a pre-existing town in the UK.wink

Unfortunately, the "Edmonton" in London is not a quaint little village anymore - it's (mostly) an absolute dump: http://farm4.static.flick...ee7d42.jpg
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I know perfectly well that nearly all North American places with European-sounding names were named for an existing place or after a person. I was just unclear on whether Edmonton was called after the place or after a figure. No need to be condescending.


omfg Holy ballsack, is that a cemetery in the foreground!?
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