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Reply #60 posted 12/01/09 10:30am

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alright then, just take care of yo bidness den.
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Reply #61 posted 12/01/09 10:40am

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treat him like any other debt....tell him you will pay him later wink
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Reply #62 posted 12/01/09 10:50am

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BklynBabe said:

treat him like any other debt....tell him you will pay him later wink



falloff pay him in installments. 5 dollars a week.
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Reply #63 posted 12/01/09 10:53am

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DesireeNevermind said:

BklynBabe said:

treat him like any other debt....tell him you will pay him later wink



falloff pay him in installments. 5 dollars a week.


more like $5 a month...and put his ass on call block at payday
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Reply #64 posted 12/01/09 10:53am

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DesireeNevermind said:

BklynBabe said:

treat him like any other debt....tell him you will pay him later wink



falloff pay him in installments. 5 dollars a week.

lol In nickels and dimes
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Reply #65 posted 12/01/09 10:54am

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SCNDLS said:

DesireeNevermind said:




falloff pay him in installments. 5 dollars a week.

lol In nickels and dimes



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Reply #66 posted 12/01/09 12:23pm

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So it's settled:
He ain't gettin' shit, and he already got what he would've received for payment for free...
...or something...
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Reply #67 posted 12/01/09 12:51pm

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trust me dude, and I am big on paying back what you owe, but what you described is some fuckery!

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Reply #68 posted 12/01/09 12:52pm

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How he is gonna be the bottom bitch and then expect you to pay him? lol
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Reply #69 posted 12/01/09 12:53pm

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SCNDLS said:

DesireeNevermind said:




falloff pay him in installments. 5 dollars a week.

lol In nickels and dimes

in a tube sock lol
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Reply #70 posted 12/01/09 12:55pm

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bboy87 said:

How he is gonna be the bottom bitch and then expect you to pay him? lol

I know right? I don't pay bitches, BITCHES PAY ME!!
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Reply #71 posted 12/01/09 1:03pm

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bboy87 said:

SCNDLS said:


lol In nickels and dimes

in a tube sock lol

nod Across his mouth lol
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Reply #72 posted 12/01/09 1:26pm

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ScarletScandal said:

DesireeNevermind said:




Ok so then dude is confused and shouldn't ask you for part of the room fees. If you were only supposed to pay back what he loaned to you and if he indeed didn't loan you anything...then don't pay him shit. However, if he gave you any amount of money (you did say you were broke before going to West Ho with him) then just pay him back that amount. If this is a person you want to remain on good terms with then don't let a monetary misunderstanding come between you. People are fucked in the head when it comes to money.

Right. If ANYTHING, he'll only get that $50 back. I ain't paying for no fucking hotel room though.



that's all he should get back
he didn't tell you about the room,and he had others come over that did pay him for the room..
it would seem any ummm payment you gave him was given before he asked
for the money for the room... giggle

give him the fifty back and call it done...
permanately
you deserve better
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Reply #73 posted 12/01/09 1:51pm

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peb319 said:

ScarletScandal said:


Right. If ANYTHING, he'll only get that $50 back. I ain't paying for no fucking hotel room though.



that's all he should get back
he didn't tell you about the room,and he had others come over that did pay him for the room..
it would seem any ummm payment you gave him was given before he asked
for the money for the room... giggle

give him the fifty back and call it done...
permanately
you deserve better

Pfft...That's what he's getting if anything. I don't even talk to him anymore, so...And it's funny how ya'll consider sex as "payment" on here... lol
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Reply #74 posted 12/01/09 2:18pm

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ScarletScandal said:

peb319 said:




that's all he should get back
he didn't tell you about the room,and he had others come over that did pay him for the room..
it would seem any ummm payment you gave him was given before he asked
for the money for the room... giggle

give him the fifty back and call it done...
permanately
you deserve better

Pfft...That's what he's getting if anything. I don't even talk to him anymore, so...And it's funny how ya'll consider sex as "payment" on here... lol


well...you did say that you umm dicked him down..so..
and besides he had your company too so you weren't alone..and you told him you were broke..
and he still wanted you to go that bad... giggle
i'm still tihnking it's a bit iffy on the fifty!! lol

so mail him his payments in istallments...$5 a week..
in change!! falloff

you should also et him know he can't afford you anymore lol
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Reply #75 posted 12/02/09 6:50am

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ScarletScandal said:

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I watch way more than my fair share of TV courtroom shows, specifically Judge Mathis and Judge Jenine Pirro. I have seen cases like this so many times. If you were to go before either of them, they would rule that YOU DO OWE the money. Sorry to break it to you.

PLEASE explain why I would owe him the money, when there was no agreement beforehand?



There was not a specific agreement as to an exact dollar amount. however, as you wrote in your post, "he just told me to pay him back when I had the money." In the law, that is an agreement to pay. He was then under the correct assumption that any costs associated with the trip he paid on your behalf would be paid. In a small claims court, you wouldn't have a chance. Had you told him at that point that you wouldn't pay him back, it would be a different story.

You have no claim against paying for the hotel cost. Once again, you agreed to pay for what you owed for the trip. You may not have wanted to stay in the hotel, but you did stay in the room overnight and therefore you owe.

Sorry about this. I do feel that you probably were shafted, but shafting can be done legally, which is what your ex did.
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Reply #76 posted 12/02/09 7:29am

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Time 4 a new mate.....
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Reply #77 posted 12/02/09 9:53am

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Darwintheorgangrinder said:



Sorry about this. I do feel that you probably were shafted, but shafting can be done legally, which is what your ex did.


I thought he (OP) did the shafting.....
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Reply #78 posted 12/02/09 1:45pm

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Darwintheorgangrinder said:

ScarletScandal said:


PLEASE explain why I would owe him the money, when there was no agreement beforehand?



There was not a specific agreement as to an exact dollar amount. however, as you wrote in your post, "he just told me to pay him back when I had the money." In the law, that is an agreement to pay. He was then under the correct assumption that any costs associated with the trip he paid on your behalf would be paid. In a small claims court, you wouldn't have a chance. Had you told him at that point that you wouldn't pay him back, it would be a different story.

You have no claim against paying for the hotel cost. Once again, you agreed to pay for what you owed for the trip. You may not have wanted to stay in the hotel, but you did stay in the room overnight and therefore you owe.

Sorry about this. I do feel that you probably were shafted, but shafting can be done legally, which is what your ex did.


He didn't explain to me that I would be paying him back for staying at a hotel room, that I didn't know he had reservations for until AFTER we already stayed there, without me having any previous knowledge about it.
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Reply #79 posted 12/02/09 2:26pm

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Alright...here's my current dilemma...
That guy I was dating, I'm assuming we're not dating anymore, cuz of some ol' boolshit he did/didn't do...
Anyway...
About a week before Thanksgiving, he told me he was planning on going to West Hollywood, and wanted me to go. I told him I didn't want to go because I was broke and I didn't want him buying me stuff and me being a burden on him. So he begged and begged so I said yes. He told me just to pay him back when I got the money. So he told me we were leaving his house around 3 to go to WeHo, and I was wondering why we were leaving so early since the party doesn't start until night time. I went to his house around noon, and he JUST told me he had hotel reservations...ok, cool, whatever. So I go spend the night at the hotel with him...He told me he had some friends coming to the room as well, and in the morning they gave him money to replace what he spent on the hotel room...arrangements I was unaware of...When he told me to pay him back, I was under the assumption he was going to give me money for the night, which he technically never did. He gave me $50 to go to the store, and when I brought his change back he told me to keep it. So then a couple days later, he texts me saying "Are you gonna pay me back the $90 you owe me?" Say whhhaaaaat? I told him "...I never got $90 from you..." And then I said "Are you talking about paying you back for the hotel room?" and he said "Yes."
So I need advice...Since I had ABSOLUTELY no idea he had hotel reservations until that day, and he expected me to help reimburse him for something I found out about last minute that everyone else knew about, and he wants me to repay him an amount of money I never got from him, should I pay him back?



a contract is an offer and an acceptance. he offered to take you to westho. you accepted. he told you about the hotel room. you said, okay, whatever.

you'ld lose in court sir.
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Reply #80 posted 12/02/09 2:32pm

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BlackAdder7 said:

ScarletScandal said:

Alright...here's my current dilemma...
That guy I was dating, I'm assuming we're not dating anymore, cuz of some ol' boolshit he did/didn't do...
Anyway...
About a week before Thanksgiving, he told me he was planning on going to West Hollywood, and wanted me to go. I told him I didn't want to go because I was broke and I didn't want him buying me stuff and me being a burden on him. So he begged and begged so I said yes. He told me just to pay him back when I got the money. So he told me we were leaving his house around 3 to go to WeHo, and I was wondering why we were leaving so early since the party doesn't start until night time. I went to his house around noon, and he JUST told me he had hotel reservations...ok, cool, whatever. So I go spend the night at the hotel with him...He told me he had some friends coming to the room as well, and in the morning they gave him money to replace what he spent on the hotel room...arrangements I was unaware of...When he told me to pay him back, I was under the assumption he was going to give me money for the night, which he technically never did. He gave me $50 to go to the store, and when I brought his change back he told me to keep it. So then a couple days later, he texts me saying "Are you gonna pay me back the $90 you owe me?" Say whhhaaaaat? I told him "...I never got $90 from you..." And then I said "Are you talking about paying you back for the hotel room?" and he said "Yes."
So I need advice...Since I had ABSOLUTELY no idea he had hotel reservations until that day, and he expected me to help reimburse him for something I found out about last minute that everyone else knew about, and he wants me to repay him an amount of money I never got from him, should I pay him back?



a contract is an offer and an acceptance. he offered to take you to westho. you accepted. he told you about the hotel room. you said, okay, whatever.

you'ld lose in court sir.
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Jesus Tapdancing Christ...
Okay, READ what I am saying, because obviously you are having some trouble comprehending the situation:
He offered to take me to WeHo for HALLOWEEN, he did NOT mention ANYTHING about staying at a hotel until the day we went.
Unbeknownst to me, he was ALREADY in an agreement with the OTHER people who came to the room that they were helping to reimburse him for the room.
I was under the assumption that he was going to loan me money for the night, not saying anything about the hotel room.
After we stayed at the hotel room, and one of his friends didn't pay him back, like THEY agreed, he told me that I owe HIM $90, all of a sudden, without any previous agreement.
THAT is what's going on. rolleyes
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Reply #81 posted 12/02/09 2:40pm

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ScarletScandal said:

BlackAdder7 said:




a contract is an offer and an acceptance. he offered to take you to westho. you accepted. he told you about the hotel room. you said, okay, whatever.

you'ld lose in court sir.
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Jesus Tapdancing Christ...
Okay, READ what I am saying, because obviously you are having some trouble comprehending the situation:
He offered to take me to WeHo for HALLOWEEN, he did NOT mention ANYTHING about staying at a hotel until the day we went.
Unbeknownst to me, he was ALREADY in an agreement with the OTHER people who came to the room that they were helping to reimburse him for the room.
I was under the assumption that he was going to loan me money for the night, not saying anything about the hotel room.
After we stayed at the hotel room, and one of his friends didn't pay him back, like THEY agreed, he told me that I owe HIM $90, all of a sudden, without any previous agreement.
THAT is what's going on. rolleyes



you said you didnt have money, and didn't want to be a burden. he begged you to go and you said yes, and "he told me to pay him back when you got money". noone specified what the money was for, be it drinks, food or hotel room. if you didn't want to owe him anything you could have said, "another time".
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Reply #82 posted 12/02/09 2:42pm

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BlackAdder7 said:

ScarletScandal said:


Jesus Tapdancing Christ...
Okay, READ what I am saying, because obviously you are having some trouble comprehending the situation:
He offered to take me to WeHo for HALLOWEEN, he did NOT mention ANYTHING about staying at a hotel until the day we went.
Unbeknownst to me, he was ALREADY in an agreement with the OTHER people who came to the room that they were helping to reimburse him for the room.
I was under the assumption that he was going to loan me money for the night, not saying anything about the hotel room.
After we stayed at the hotel room, and one of his friends didn't pay him back, like THEY agreed, he told me that I owe HIM $90, all of a sudden, without any previous agreement.
THAT is what's going on. rolleyes



you said you didnt have money, and didn't want to be a burden. he begged you to go and you said yes, and "he told me to pay him back when you got money". noone specified what the money was for, be it drinks, food or hotel room. if you didn't want to owe him anything you could have said, "another time".


Well, that's his fault. He should have made that clear. He should have told me "I got a hotel room for the night, and everyone that stays the night is gonna pitch in to reimburse me for it." I would've been cool.

And I just realized something, who the fuck does shit like that to his friends? Why do something for them and then expect them to pay you back? Wow. I'm glad I don't deal with his cheap ass anymore. So he's not getting nare penty from me.
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Reply #83 posted 12/03/09 8:39am

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You are getting to the point where you are not listening to reason, and this is no longer fun. You agreed to "pay him back," and that is all the evidence that would be needed to rule in his favor. You are at fault for not being completely aware of all the costs that would be incurred. So either pay the guy back to end the whole thing, or don't pay him back and hope that he does not take you to small claims court because you will lose your case.
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Reply #84 posted 12/03/09 9:21am

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Darwintheorgangrinder said:

You are getting to the point where you are not listening to reason, and this is no longer fun. You agreed to "pay him back," and that is all the evidence that would be needed to rule in his favor. You are at fault for not being completely aware of all the costs that would be incurred. So either pay the guy back to end the whole thing, or don't pay him back and hope that he does not take you to small claims court because you will lose your case.

rolleyes OH MY GOD...PLEASE explain THAT shit! How can something be my fault if I didn't know about it?
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Reply #85 posted 12/03/09 9:47am

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ScarletScandal said:

Darwintheorgangrinder said:

You are getting to the point where you are not listening to reason, and this is no longer fun. You agreed to "pay him back," and that is all the evidence that would be needed to rule in his favor. You are at fault for not being completely aware of all the costs that would be incurred. So either pay the guy back to end the whole thing, or don't pay him back and hope that he does not take you to small claims court because you will lose your case.

rolleyes OH MY GOD...PLEASE explain THAT shit! How can something be my fault if I didn't know about it?



I am sorry, but this is getting to be very difficult because you not comprehending the plainly stated facts that I and others have provided. It is your responsibility to understand all aspects of a contract to which you enter. Since you failed to do so, you have no defense.

Had you not used the hotel room, you might be able to avoid paying. However, you stayed in the damn room. A service was provided to you, and you owe for the service. You could have refused to stay in the room, but you didn't, so you owe. Think of it this way, you can't go to a restaurant, eat the meal, and then claim that you don't owe because you were unaware of the price. Once you put your fork into the meal, you must pay for it. And once you enter the hotel room, you must pay for it.

Please, pay this dude back, before he takes you to court. If it goes to court, you will lose. And the judge won't keep explaining him/herself and elaborating as I have. He or she will simply say "judgment for the plaintiff."

In the future, do not enter into contracts that you do not understand. Furthermore, don't agree to pay people back if you really have no intention of doing so. It is a pretty crappy thing to do to somebody.
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Reply #86 posted 12/03/09 10:08am

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Darwintheorgangrinder said:

ScarletScandal said:


rolleyes OH MY GOD...PLEASE explain THAT shit! How can something be my fault if I didn't know about it?



I am sorry, but this is getting to be very difficult because you not comprehending the plainly stated facts that I and others have provided. It is your responsibility to understand all aspects of a contract to which you enter. Since you failed to do so, you have no defense.

Had you not used the hotel room, you might be able to avoid paying. However, you stayed in the damn room. A service was provided to you, and you owe for the service. You could have refused to stay in the room, but you didn't, so you owe. Think of it this way, you can't go to a restaurant, eat the meal, and then claim that you don't owe because you were unaware of the price. Once you put your fork into the meal, you must pay for it. And once you enter the hotel room, you must pay for it.

Please, pay this dude back, before he takes you to court. If it goes to court, you will lose. And the judge won't keep explaining him/herself and elaborating as I have. He or she will simply say "judgment for the plaintiff."

In the future, do not enter into contracts that you do not understand. Furthermore, don't agree to pay people back if you really have no intention of doing so. It is a pretty crappy thing to do to somebody.


There WAS NO CONTRACT! And yes, it was pretty crappy what he did to me. He NEVER said "After you stay the night in the hotel, you're gonna have to pay me back." He never even brought it up until another one of his friends that DID KNOW and DID AGREE to help reimburse him never did. So...
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Reply #87 posted 12/03/09 12:11pm

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bboy87 said:

How he is gonna be the bottom bitch and then expect you to pay him? lol

I know right? I don't pay bitches, BITCHES PAY ME!!



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Reply #88 posted 12/03/09 12:24pm

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sound like you only owe him the $50 for sure.

As for the other $40 for the hotel, he did tell you before you left so it seems that would have been the time for you to ask him about who was paying for that and how much it would be. So I would say you own that too as why would you assume he would foot the bill for the hotel when you told him you did not want him to spend money on you?
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Reply #89 posted 12/03/09 12:29pm

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ScarletScandal said:


There WAS NO CONTRACT! And yes, it was pretty crappy what he did to me. He NEVER said "After you stay the night in the hotel, you're gonna have to pay me back." He never even brought it up until another one of his friends that DID KNOW and DID AGREE to help reimburse him never did. So...


did you not agree to pay him back when you could? You knew there was a hotel before you left so I am going to lean towards you having to pay your share of the hotel bill as well as the original $50. I think you did have a contract, he agreed to put up the money and you agreed (even if it was by silence) to pay him back.

(telling you to keep the change just makes it easier you remember how much you owed, if you gave him back $14.56 then it would clause confusion over how much was outstanding.
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