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Thread started 11/23/09 2:28pm

StillGotIt

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Was Lambert's AMA Romp Too Much?

Adam Lambert certainly knows how to get people talking. His AMA performance could have just been his post-'Idol' breakout show, but instead it's become one of those "did he take it too far?" moments of awards show folklore that has everyone taking sides

Watch the Video Here! http://www.popeater.com/2...rformance/
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Reply #1 posted 11/23/09 2:32pm

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The YouTube video has been pulled, but I got this link from AOL: http://www.popeater.com/2...rt-amas%2F

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Reply #2 posted 11/23/09 2:34pm

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It was pure shock value whoring. Desperate to a lot yes but fuck it, I thought it was cheap and awesome to see a dude's face in his crotch. It's about time.
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Reply #3 posted 11/23/09 2:39pm

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johnart said:

It was pure shock value whoring. Desperate to a lot yes but fuck it, I thought it was cheap and awesome to see a dude's face in his crotch. It's about time.

In the AMA thread, you said he had balls to do that, I thought

"That guy who was dancing with him definitely knows that, they were right there on his upper lip" lol
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Reply #4 posted 11/23/09 2:43pm

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I haven't seen the video (and don't really want to) but the pics I saw of the shocking moments don't seem any different from what Madonna does, except that he's a man, and people would apparently rather watch two women kiss than two men--I certainly would. smile
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Reply #5 posted 11/23/09 2:46pm

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NDRU said:

I haven't seen the video (and don't really want to) but the pics I saw of the shocking moments don't seem any different from what Madonna does, except that he's a man, and people would apparently rather watch two women kiss than two men--I certainly would. smile


As long as a woman is the submissive sex object, right? nod
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Reply #6 posted 11/23/09 2:46pm

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But what he did and what Madonna loves to do are basically without substance, they are just "provocative for its own sake."

Madonna uses crosses to seem deep, but it's all flash. I feel the same about Adam. His singing is good, technically, but I hate his style, and there doesn't seem to be anything behind it.
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Reply #7 posted 11/23/09 2:58pm

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Shock value! Hell Madonna, Prince etc have used that tool. Has us talking about him..so guess it worked.
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Reply #8 posted 11/23/09 3:10pm

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Reply #9 posted 11/23/09 3:10pm

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So, um....what is Lambert famous for again? Don't people know that American Idol is really just one big karaoke contest? ;confuse:
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Reply #10 posted 11/23/09 3:12pm

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Wait.....who?





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Reply #11 posted 11/23/09 3:15pm

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I think Prince should get credit for doing the guy-on-guy BJ simulation on the AMAs long before this. Back in '95, he was kneeling in front of Tommy Barbarella's...instrument in a way that definitely brought a BJ to mind.

Also, Adam Lambert is a screeching freak.
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Reply #12 posted 11/23/09 3:15pm

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Cinnie said:

NDRU said:

I haven't seen the video (and don't really want to) but the pics I saw of the shocking moments don't seem any different from what Madonna does, except that he's a man, and people would apparently rather watch two women kiss than two men--I certainly would. smile


As long as a woman is the submissive sex object, right? nod


I think it's more that a woman's homoeroticism is sexier to the mainstream public than a man's.

I could see Madonna could pulling a man (or woman) into her crotch.
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Reply #13 posted 11/23/09 3:17pm

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Efan said:

I think Prince should get credit for doing the guy-on-guy BJ simulation on the AMAs long before this. Back in '95, he was kneeling in front of Tommy Barbarella's...instrument in a way that definitely brought a BJ to mind.

Also, Adam Lambert is a screeching freak.


I think Bowie was first!


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Reply #14 posted 11/23/09 3:22pm

Imago

StillGotIt said:

Adam Lambert certainly knows how to get people talking. His AMA performance could have just been his post-'Idol' breakout show, but instead it's become one of those "did he take it too far?" moments of awards show folklore that has everyone taking sides

Watch the Video Here! http://www.popeater.com/2...rformance/



No, it was not too much.
MJ kissing LIsa Marrie--now that was way way way more than the world needed to see.


Folks wouldn't even be talking about it if a male and a female kissed. So I have no sympathies for those offended by this.
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Reply #15 posted 11/23/09 3:27pm

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NDRU said:

Cinnie said:



As long as a woman is the submissive sex object, right? nod


I think it's more that a woman's homoeroticism is sexier to the mainstream public than a man's.

I could see Madonna could pulling a man (or woman) into her crotch.

If by mainstream public, you mean heterosexual men.

Gay men obviously aren't going to get a lot out of girl-on-girl, most women are straight, and lesbians and bi women usually don't go for faux-lesbianism because it's so obviously performed for men.
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Reply #16 posted 11/23/09 3:28pm

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NDRU said:

Efan said:

I think Prince should get credit for doing the guy-on-guy BJ simulation on the AMAs long before this. Back in '95, he was kneeling in front of Tommy Barbarella's...instrument in a way that definitely brought a BJ to mind.

Also, Adam Lambert is a screeching freak.


I think Bowie was first!



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Reply #17 posted 11/23/09 3:29pm

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No, but his singing and the song were fucking horrendous.

That guy totally sucks.
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Reply #18 posted 11/23/09 3:30pm

NDRU

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meow85 said:

NDRU said:



I think it's more that a woman's homoeroticism is sexier to the mainstream public than a man's.

I could see Madonna could pulling a man (or woman) into her crotch.

If by mainstream public, you mean heterosexual men.

Gay men obviously aren't going to get a lot out of girl-on-girl, most women are straight, and lesbians and bi women usually don't go for faux-lesbianism because it's so obviously performed for men.


yes, heterosexual men. I'd also say that I believe straight women are not as into seeing two men kiss as straight men are into seeing two women kiss.
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Reply #19 posted 11/23/09 3:30pm

Imago

Am I the only person who thinks he'd make a good 'other' Osborne daughter?
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Reply #20 posted 11/23/09 3:30pm

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nope...
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Reply #21 posted 11/23/09 3:30pm

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JustErin said:

No, but his singing and the song were fucking horrendous.

That guy totally sucks.


lol I think he's talented, but his overblown style makes me barf
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Reply #22 posted 11/23/09 3:31pm

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NDRU said:

But what he did and what Madonna loves to do are basically without substance, they are just "provocative for its own sake."

Madonna uses crosses to seem deep, but it's all flash. I feel the same about Adam. His singing is good, technically, but I hate his style, and there doesn't seem to be anything behind it.


The guy screams like a banshee and often off key. neutral
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Reply #23 posted 11/23/09 3:32pm

Imago

JustErin said:

NDRU said:

But what he did and what Madonna loves to do are basically without substance, they are just "provocative for its own sake."

Madonna uses crosses to seem deep, but it's all flash. I feel the same about Adam. His singing is good, technically, but I hate his style, and there doesn't seem to be anything behind it.


The guy screams like a banshee and often off key. neutral

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Imago said:

Am I the only person who thinks he'd make a good 'other' Osborne daughter?

He does look more vaginal than Kelly
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Reply #25 posted 11/23/09 3:34pm

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JustErin said:

NDRU said:

But what he did and what Madonna loves to do are basically without substance, they are just "provocative for its own sake."

Madonna uses crosses to seem deep, but it's all flash. I feel the same about Adam. His singing is good, technically, but I hate his style, and there doesn't seem to be anything behind it.


The guy screams like a banshee and often off key. neutral


well, I have only seen bits of it, so you may be right. It WAS off-putting!
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Reply #26 posted 11/23/09 3:37pm

Imago

bboy87 said:

Imago said:

Am I the only person who thinks he'd make a good 'other' Osborne daughter?

He does look more vaginal than Kelly

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this thread is crackin' my ass up this morning lol
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Reply #27 posted 11/23/09 3:59pm

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NDRU said:

meow85 said:


If by mainstream public, you mean heterosexual men.

Gay men obviously aren't going to get a lot out of girl-on-girl, most women are straight, and lesbians and bi women usually don't go for faux-lesbianism because it's so obviously performed for men.


yes, heterosexual men. I'd also say that I believe straight women are not as into seeing two men kiss as straight men are into seeing two women kiss.

IMO you'd be mistaken. Maybe the whitebread, middle-America crowd of straight women wouldn't, but millions of straight women LOVE watching two or more guys get their freak on. You never wondered why tv shows like Queer As Folk had a mostly straight female audience, or why so much manga/anime aimed at young women has gay male love stories? Or for that matter, why "slash' fan fiction, a genre largely written by hetero women, exists?

Answer: for the man lovin'.
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Reply #28 posted 11/23/09 4:16pm

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meow85 said:

NDRU said:



yes, heterosexual men. I'd also say that I believe straight women are not as into seeing two men kiss as straight men are into seeing two women kiss.

IMO you'd be mistaken. Maybe the whitebread, middle-America crowd of straight women wouldn't, but millions of straight women LOVE watching two or more guys get their freak on. You never wondered why tv shows like Queer As Folk had a mostly straight female audience, or why so much manga/anime aimed at young women has gay male love stories? Or for that matter, why "slash' fan fiction, a genre largely written by hetero women, exists?

Answer: for the man lovin'.


I'm sure you're right, but maybe I should have simply said I believe a greater number of straight men like to see women kiss than straight women like to see men kiss. that's why we see more of women kissing than men in mainstream media (which is mainstream because it's the biggest numbers)
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Reply #29 posted 11/23/09 4:22pm

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ps are you sure Prnce was kneeling in front of another dude's package....he is kinda short, ya know. Dude might just have been really tall, like 5'10" or something wink
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