Graycap23 said: This guy has taken over 23,000 shots and has hit LESS than 10,000.
Pityful comes 2 mind. FWIW, that's a higher career FG percentage than Chauncey Billups. "Whitney was purely and simply one of a kind." ~ Clive Davis | |
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AlexdeParis said: Graycap23 said: This guy has taken over 23,000 shots and has hit LESS than 10,000.
Pityful comes 2 mind. FWIW, that's a higher career FG percentage than Chauncey Billups. .....and a lower WINNING % than Billups. | |
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Unless a point guard is really mature and only cares about winning, having the ability to score is a curse.
If your pg is the number 1 option, it's easier to beat that team. You can focus all of your defensive effort on the top scorer AND the guy who's handling the ball and running the offense. AI and others like him(Starberry) never figured that out and as a result wasted the chance of being GREAT instead of GOOD ball players. AI was a great scorer not a great point guard. But it sounds like AI is already thinking about UN retireing. | |
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joseph8 said: Unless a point guard is really mature and only cares about winning, having the ability to score is a curse.
If your pg is the number 1 option, it's easier to beat that team. You can focus all of your defensive effort on the top scorer AND the guy who's handling the ball and running the offense. AI and others like him(Starberry) never figured that out and as a result wasted the chance of being GREAT instead of GOOD ball players. AI was a great scorer not a great point guard. But it sounds like AI is already thinking about UN retireing. Ai was never a PG. PRINCE: Always and Forever
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Graycap23 said: AlexdeParis said: FWIW, that's a higher career FG percentage than Chauncey Billups. .....and a lower WINNING % than Billups. Coincidentally, Billups has been on better teams. Wait, that's not a coincidence at all. "Whitney was purely and simply one of a kind." ~ Clive Davis | |
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AlexdeParis said: Graycap23 said: .....and a lower WINNING % than Billups. Coincidentally, Billups has been on better teams. Wait, that's not a coincidence at all. No one cared about Billups until after 2003. Before them, dude was switching teams like a fairweather fan. PRINCE: Always and Forever
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Guess who just came back ... per ESPN. PRINCE: Always and Forever
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LittleBLUECorvette said: AlexdeParis said: Coincidentally, Billups has been on better teams. Wait, that's not a coincidence at all. No one cared about Billups until after 2003. Before them, dude was switching teams like a fairweather fan. No one cares about A.I. 2day. | |
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Graycap23 said: LittleBLUECorvette said: No one cared about Billups until after 2003. Before them, dude was switching teams like a fairweather fan. No one cares about A.I. 2day. AI is a future 1st ballot hall of famer. If Billups gets in, it'll be years down the line. PRINCE: Always and Forever
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LittleBLUECorvette said: Graycap23 said: No one cares about A.I. 2day. AI is a future 1st ballot hall of famer. If Billups gets in, it'll be years down the line. 23,000 shots: missed 14,000 24,000 points, 23,000 points pityful. | |
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Graycap23 said: LittleBLUECorvette said: AI is a future 1st ballot hall of famer. If Billups gets in, it'll be years down the line. 23,000 shots: missed 14,000 24,000 points, 23,000 points pityful. The ball was in his hands all the time, who was he gonna pass it too, Iric Snow, Aaron McKie, Matt Geiger. PRINCE: Always and Forever
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LittleBLUECorvette said: Graycap23 said: 23,000 shots: missed 14,000 24,000 points, 23,000 points pityful. The ball was in his hands all the time, who was he gonna pass it too, Iric Snow, Aaron McKie, Matt Geiger. continued.....Tyrone Hill, George Lynch, Larry Hues, Kevin Ollie etc..... | |
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LittleBLUECorvette said: AlexdeParis said: Coincidentally, Billups has been on better teams. Wait, that's not a coincidence at all. No one cared about Billups until after 2003. Before them, dude was switching teams like a fairweather fan. Exactly,the dude couldn't hit a hooker outside the old Boston Garden when he came into the league and it took dude what 5 years to become the player people thought he would be out of college. AI nor Philly has anything to lose by him coming back to the Sixers. Lou Williams is out for 8 weeks. It's a win win situation for Philly. As for the AI haters,please name me 32 guards in the league that's better right now. Crickets. [Edited 12/1/09 21:14pm] Don't laugh at my funk
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LittleBLUECorvette said: Graycap23 said: 23,000 shots: missed 14,000 24,000 points, 23,000 points pityful. The ball was in his hands all the time, who was he gonna pass it too, Iric Snow, Aaron McKie, Matt Geiger. Ironically,he worked well with Snow,McKie,and Theo Ratliff during their 2001 NBA finals run. He worked well with a couple of players past their prime too Derrick Coleman and Chris Webber. Don't laugh at my funk
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phunkdaddy said: LittleBLUECorvette said: The ball was in his hands all the time, who was he gonna pass it too, Iric Snow, Aaron McKie, Matt Geiger. Ironically,he worked well with Snow,McKie,and Theo Ratliff during their 2001 NBA finals run. That was my point. That 2001 Sixers team is easily one of the worst teams to ever make the NBA Finals. Iverson and Larry Brown can't get enough praise for pulling off that feat of magic. That's as far from "pitiful" as it gets. [Edited 12/2/09 3:05am] "Whitney was purely and simply one of a kind." ~ Clive Davis | |
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LittleBLUECorvette said: Graycap23 said: 23,000 shots: missed 14,000 24,000 points, 23,000 points pityful. The ball was in his hands all the time, who was he gonna pass it too, Iric Snow, Aaron McKie, Matt Geiger. So what is your EXCUSE 4 Denver? | |
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phunkdaddy said: LittleBLUECorvette said: No one cared about Billups until after 2003. Before them, dude was switching teams like a fairweather fan. Exactly,the dude couldn't hit a hooker outside the old Boston Garden when he came into the league and it took dude what 5 years to become the player people thought he would be out of college. AI nor Philly has anything to lose by him coming back to the Sixers. Lou Williams is out for 8 weeks. It's a win win situation for Philly. As for the AI haters,please name me 32 guards in the league that's better right now. Crickets. [Edited 12/1/09 21:14pm] Better at what? Shooting 38% or winning? | |
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AlexdeParis said: phunkdaddy said: Ironically,he worked well with Snow,McKie,and Theo Ratliff during their 2001 NBA finals run. That was my point. That 2001 Sixers team is easily one of the worst teams to ever make the NBA Finals. Iverson and Larry Brown can't get enough praise for pulling off that feat of magic. That's as far from "pitiful" as it gets. [Edited 12/2/09 3:05am] I won't say their the worst team to make the NBA Finals especially since you had a New York Knicks team minus Patrick Ewing to make the finals not to long ago. Remember this Philly team had the best record in the Eastern Conference that year and were on pace for the best record in the league until Theo Ratliff got hurt. Dude was having the best season of his career and may have been the defensive player of the year. Once it was discovered Ratliff was done for the season,the team was backed into a corner and had to trade for Motombo.Philly had to change their philosophy somewhat to accomodate Motombo. Ratliff was probably not as physical as Motombo but he was far more versatile and faster. Motombo was slow and lawd once he got the ball in the paint and he put the ball on the floor,it got ugly. Ratliff knew what to do with it once he got it in the paint. Had Ratliff stayed healthy, this team would have been among the best for a few more years. Don't laugh at my funk
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Graycap23 said: phunkdaddy said: Exactly,the dude couldn't hit a hooker outside the old Boston Garden when he came into the league and it took dude what 5 years to become the player people thought he would be out of college. AI nor Philly has anything to lose by him coming back to the Sixers. Lou Williams is out for 8 weeks. It's a win win situation for Philly. As for the AI haters,please name me 32 guards in the league that's better right now. Crickets. [Edited 12/1/09 21:14pm] Better at what? Shooting 38% or winning? Both. Doesn't AI have the highest scoring post season average behind a recent hall of famer who also never met a shot he didn't like. [Edited 12/2/09 6:13am] Don't laugh at my funk
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phunkdaddy said: AlexdeParis said: That was my point. That 2001 Sixers team is easily one of the worst teams to ever make the NBA Finals. Iverson and Larry Brown can't get enough praise for pulling off that feat of magic. That's as far from "pitiful" as it gets. [Edited 12/2/09 3:05am] I won't say their the worst team to make the NBA Finals especially since you had a New York Knicks team minus Patrick Ewing to make the finals not to long ago. Remember this Philly team had the best record in the Eastern Conference that year and were on pace for the best record in the league until Theo Ratliff got hurt. Dude was having the best season of his career and may have been the defensive player of the year. Once it was discovered Ratliff was done for the season,the team was backed into a corner and had to trade for Motombo.Philly had to change their philosophy somewhat to accomodate Motombo. Ratliff was probably not as physical as Motombo but he was far more versatile and faster. Motombo was slow and lawd once he got the ball in the paint and he put the ball on the floor,it got ugly. Ratliff knew what to do with it once he got it in the paint. Had Ratliff stayed healthy, this team would have been among the best for a few more years. ...and that team gave the Lakers their only loss in the playoffs. | |
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A.I. is BACK!!! The Sixers signed Iverson. He is now back with the team that drafted him.
Welcome back, Iverson. “When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a Communist.” Brazilian bishop Dom Hélder Câmara | |
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phunkdaddy said: Graycap23 said: Better at what? Shooting 38% or winning? Both. Doesn't AI have the highest scoring post season average behind a recent hall of famer who also never met a shot he didn't like. [Edited 12/2/09 6:13am] I don't get this. A.U. doesn't win.....and he can't shoot. Anyone in the NBA can toss up 25 shots a game. | |
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Graycap23 said: LittleBLUECorvette said: The ball was in his hands all the time, who was he gonna pass it too, Iric Snow, Aaron McKie, Matt Geiger. So what is your EXCUSE 4 Denver? So let me ask AGAIN.....what is your EXCUSE 4 Denver? .....birds chirping..... | |
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Graycap23 said: phunkdaddy said: Both. Doesn't AI have the highest scoring post season average behind a recent hall of famer who also never met a shot he didn't like. [Edited 12/2/09 6:13am] I don't get this. A.U. doesn't win.....and he can't shoot. Anyone in the NBA can toss up 25 shots a game. Dan Marino put up lots of stats but didn't win quote unquote "the big one"but does that diminish his accomplishments on the field and as a hall of fame player. Should we put Trent Dilfer in the hall of fame? AI can't shoot? Damn could have fooled me,the guy has been a relentless scoring machine in the NBA and he can't shoot. Look at the all time scoring leaders particularly in the post season. The proof's in the pudding. I guess you have to take a lot of shots if you're the only consistent shooting threat on your team. [Edited 12/2/09 6:54am] Don't laugh at my funk
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phunkdaddy said: Graycap23 said: I don't get this. A.U. doesn't win.....and he can't shoot. Anyone in the NBA can toss up 25 shots a game. Dan Marino put up lots of stats but didn't win quote unquote "the big one"but does that diminish his accomplishments on the field and as a hall of fame player. Should we put Trent Dilfer in the hall of fame? This discussion is about A.I. | |
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Graycap23 said: phunkdaddy said: Dan Marino put up lots of stats but didn't win quote unquote "the big one"but does that diminish his accomplishments on the field and as a hall of fame player. Should we put Trent Dilfer in the hall of fame? This discussion is about A.I. Check my edit. Don't laugh at my funk
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Wow, I know the fans are glad they kept theri Iverson 3 t-shirts. I love AI and I'm VERY happy he's back. [Edited 12/2/09 14:02pm] | |
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Dayclear said: Wow, I know the fans are glad they kept theri Iverson 1 t-shirts. I love AI and I'm VERY happy he's back.
I'm happy too. The guy has something left in the tank. I hope he makes all the naysayers eat crow. Don't laugh at my funk
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Graycap23 said: Graycap23 said: So what is your EXCUSE 4 Denver? So let me ask AGAIN.....what is your EXCUSE 4 Denver? .....birds chirping..... AI's great, but he's a unique player that needs a team built around him, that won't mind him dominating the ball so much. That's why the 2000-01 Sixers had success. | |
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AlexdeParis said: Graycap23 said: .....and a lower WINNING % than Billups. Coincidentally, Billups has been on better teams. Wait, that's not a coincidence at all. Lost on all this is Billups meltdown in the Western Conference Finals.After game 1,his game was virtually non existent. In the final game they lost in Denver,he committed a flagrant foul against one of the Lakers players at the end of the game. But we all know that was AI fault too. Don't laugh at my funk
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