prb said:

Well, yeah. See also dishes, washing and cooking. The cooking I've taken a stand on though ( ) and had to insist on doing my part sometimes. I also do all of the tidying and cleaning up around here, so that I don't feel like a complete asshole.

Fauxie said:

what are the manly duties?

I'm starting to think that the entire site is based on (or for) Zombie.
What power you wield, ZK!

Well played, my friend.

ZombieKitten said:

no fancy packaging....
ive never been into fancy packaging...looks to husband

slimhustle said:

are you up very early?

ZombieKitten said:

Working, drinking, smacking any children nearby (don't even have to be your own!), going out to find women besides your wife to sleep with, playing cards, kicking the dog, and gambling. I don't even like most of those pursuits. I go swimming instead and accept the 'soft' tag.

prb said:

isn't it funny how men come home from safeway with all the weird fancy stuff and you know what, and this is a BIG SECRET you can feed them vegetarian food 3 nights a week and they WON'T EVEN NOTICE!!!!

Fauxie said:

no, really

ZombieKitten said:

Yep, in bed, ironing nude, watching that split video by nyse.

You know, the usual.

Seriously though, my mother in law will give my wife a seriously hard time if she gets even an inkling that my wife isn't taking care of me as per her older generation expectations. She did all of that old-fashioned stereotypical housewife stuff as well as working, building houses in this street no less. She's my hero, and I won't say the culture and her way of thinking doesn't make things easier for me, but it's weird sometimes. She's the kind of mum that brings food even when you don't want it or you've just eaten, piles more on your plate when you're done and worries constantly you're going to get sick for this reason or that. She constantly frets and fusses and it's so sweet but can be overwhelming. So sweet though, I love her.

ZombieKitten said:

i bet mine would...he wont even eat the same thing twice in a row...ie roast chicken couldnt be followed by chicken stir fry.

but as he does a lot of the cooking...i no complain

slimhustle said:

why are you not here with me right now

prb said:

ZombieKitten said:

manuel

i love fawlty towers...

I absolutely do iron clothing if it needs it.

When I was little (starting at about age 6), my mom actually gave me ironing lessons. I started with my dad's handkerchiefs...pressing them into the corners and without creases...and folding them just so.

When I could do hankies perfectly, I graduated to pillowcases. Those are harder because you're ironing two layers at the same time. (Like ironing the sleeve on a shirt.) When I could do those perfectly and without creases, my mom finally taught me how to iron clothing.

With all the sewing I do, my iron gets a lot of use. When you're making a garment, the pressing is as critical as the sewing in getting a professional look.

I iron everything I wear.
Whether it needs to be ironed or not. I guess it just makes me feel better.

Genesia said:

i used to iron pillowcases and tea towels....

back in my younger and not as wise days

ZombieKitten said:

Well, not quite so much with the younger generation, but certainly with Mon's parents' generation it's the traditional man goes out to work while the woman stays home looking after babies and doing housework situation, but then her parents are 60+. Women will often work as well as doing all of that though, and that goes for back then and now, but generally it's not so different to how things were in the west around the same time. As for this generation, I couldn't really speak for all young Thai people. As far as my own situation with household chores and responsibilities, as I've said before, I try to keep myself busy around here and make myself useful where I'm needed. There's always plenty to be done, whether it's looking after nephews, helping with Mon's bed-ridden older brother, redoing the stuff around the spirit house, going to buy nappies, milk or whatever from the shops etc.

Fauxie said:

DanceWme said:

everything..?
even "delicates"

prb said:

no.

prb said:

That's sweet, but nuts. Seriously, I don't understand why people with kids would iron their tops if they know they're going to be carrying their kids at some point (is that the word, 'carrying'? I forget. Only 'oum' in Thai comes to mind). You get your clothes all creased straight away. I've also found I've certain clothes that don't really need an iron so I'm more than happy to wear them as is.

Did you ever iron underwear or socks?

prb said:

She's awesome, and why we're still here in this madhouse.

Genesia said:

My mother taught me too, though not quite as methodically as that.

It surprises me how many people don't iron or just don't know how. I tried to teach a friend once and just ended up doing it myself.

ms whistle irons my shirts while i'm still in them.

I own an iron. I don't own an ironing board. I never iron my clothes. I would if I ever wore anything more formal that I deemed as requiring ironing.

Back in the day, my friend used to iron her jeans. Jeans are meant to be casual looking.

No, never. I throw it in the dyer for 10 minutes instead...but I do have an iron.

Yes, always.

My mother also taught me to iron, and she'd DESTROY me if she knew I went out in public rough-dry... which I often do as I'm a busy boy these days.

J. Crew says it's cool, though ...and, in my defense, I do know when a brotha must look perfect.

I also iron FAR more than my wife. She laughs at me for being picky.

CarrieMpls said:

Trust me, my mom had system for everything. She would set the ironing board so it was just the right height for me. And she got a second, smaller iron, too. (A standard iron was a little heavy for my skinny 6-year-old arms.)

I suspect the person you were trying to teach didn't really want to learn - and that it was all a ruse to get you to do their ironing for them.