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Reply #30 posted 11/23/09 7:01pm

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I'm not sure I have so many soft spots hmmm

you mean like a fear of being a bad mother? (if anyone suggested anything like that to me, I'd knock their frikkin block off!!!! mad ) This is probably my biggest sore/soft spot/fear, whatever you call it.

I've found that talking about your stuff, bringing it out into the open in a loud ( lol ) non-tentative way, can totally take the spotlight off me if I feel under scrutiny. My shyness is going away as I realise we are all damaged, insecure humans, trying just as hard as I am, struggling for acceptance. Knowing that, and becoming experienced and competent, being good at what you do, knowing you can really help, all help deal daily with issues like this, and is great for self confidence and esteem.

I'm totally the opposite of tough front, I don't try to hide my flaws, I apologise for them, and laugh at them when appropriate shrug

i wish i could learn how to do that.
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Reply #31 posted 11/23/09 7:02pm

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Maybe I'm more damaged than I realize? confused

Nah, fuck that. lol


maybe behind the "i'm a wild, crazy, hot bitch" surface there is a deeply insecure person full of self-doubt.

or perhaps not. i don't know you!
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Reply #32 posted 11/23/09 7:02pm

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ZombieKitten said:

I'm not sure I have so many soft spots hmmm

you mean like a fear of being a bad mother? (if anyone suggested anything like that to me, I'd knock their frikkin block off!!!! mad ) This is probably my biggest sore/soft spot/fear, whatever you call it.

I've found that talking about your stuff, bringing it out into the open in a loud ( lol ) non-tentative way, can totally take the spotlight off me if I feel under scrutiny. My shyness is going away as I realise we are all damaged, insecure humans, trying just as hard as I am, struggling for acceptance. Knowing that, and becoming experienced and competent, being good at what you do, knowing you can really help, all help deal daily with issues like this, and is great for self confidence and esteem.

I'm totally the opposite of tough front, I don't try to hide my flaws, I apologise for them, and laugh at them when appropriate shrug


Maybe I'm more damaged than I realize? confused

Nah, fuck that. lol


everyone is going around holding stuff in that they hope nobody will find out, but sometimes I think, well what is so bad if they know?
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Reply #33 posted 11/23/09 7:02pm

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ZombieKitten said:

PunkMistress said:



Maybe I'm more damaged than I realize? confused

Nah, fuck that. lol


everyone is going around holding stuff in that they hope nobody will find out, but sometimes I think, well what is so bad if they know?

they could use it against you.
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Reply #34 posted 11/23/09 7:03pm

ZombieKitten

ehuffnsd said:

ZombieKitten said:

I'm not sure I have so many soft spots hmmm

you mean like a fear of being a bad mother? (if anyone suggested anything like that to me, I'd knock their frikkin block off!!!! mad ) This is probably my biggest sore/soft spot/fear, whatever you call it.

I've found that talking about your stuff, bringing it out into the open in a loud ( lol ) non-tentative way, can totally take the spotlight off me if I feel under scrutiny. My shyness is going away as I realise we are all damaged, insecure humans, trying just as hard as I am, struggling for acceptance. Knowing that, and becoming experienced and competent, being good at what you do, knowing you can really help, all help deal daily with issues like this, and is great for self confidence and esteem.

I'm totally the opposite of tough front, I don't try to hide my flaws, I apologise for them, and laugh at them when appropriate shrug

i wish i could learn how to do that.


hug
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Reply #35 posted 11/23/09 7:03pm

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JustErin said:

whistle said:



according to what you've said earlier, you're quite vulnerable about your appearance.


Self consciousness and being vulnerable are not the same things.


my mistake! i'm not arguing with you, i'm pretty sure you'd kick my arse. smile
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Reply #36 posted 11/23/09 7:03pm

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ehuffnsd said:

ZombieKitten said:



everyone is going around holding stuff in that they hope nobody will find out, but sometimes I think, well what is so bad if they know?

they could use it against you.


what kind of people are they then? not the kinds of folk you want to associate with really neutral
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Reply #37 posted 11/23/09 7:03pm

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whistle said:

PunkMistress said:

Maybe I'm more damaged than I realize? confused

Nah, fuck that. lol


maybe behind the "i'm a wild, crazy, hot bitch" surface there is a deeply insecure person full of self-doubt.

or perhaps not. i don't know you!


No, it's not all that. lol Overall I love and accept myself, and can see my own strengths and weaknesses with some measure of clarity.

I can see how that could be construed, though, based on what I've posted. It's actually my few insecurities/weaknesses that sometimes make me act like a crazy bitch. I'm not proud of it. I've had a giant chip on my shoulder since I was a tiny child.
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Reply #38 posted 11/23/09 7:04pm

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ZombieKitten said:

ehuffnsd said:


i wish i could learn how to do that.


hug
you have some awesome friends, I don't mean the general population, but those close to you that you trust.

i do have great friends it's just had for me to trust them.
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Reply #39 posted 11/23/09 7:04pm

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ZombieKitten said:

ehuffnsd said:


they could use it against you.


what kind of people are they then? not the kinds of folk you want to associate with really neutral

i guess i have major trust issues.
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Reply #40 posted 11/23/09 7:04pm

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I'm not sure I understand... Are you asking how we deal with exposing our weaknesses?

I guess it depends on the context. I'll talk about, say, my self esteem issues on the org with no problem, but it wouldn't come up in a conversation at work.

hmmm

I still don't think I know what you mean. lol
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Reply #41 posted 11/23/09 7:04pm

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ZombieKitten said:

ehuffnsd said:


they could use it against you.


what kind of people are they then? not the kinds of folk you want to associate with really neutral


shrug

Some people do it without meaning to, because of their own damage.

nuts
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Reply #42 posted 11/23/09 7:05pm

ZombieKitten

ehuffnsd said:

ZombieKitten said:



hug
you have some awesome friends, I don't mean the general population, but those close to you that you trust.

i do have great friends it's just had for me to trust them.


I'm envious of that, I have trust issues too, but then again, I'm more a loner happy with my own company. Those closest to me know me, the rest I don't care so much about boxed
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Reply #43 posted 11/23/09 7:05pm

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CarrieMpls said:

I'm not sure I understand... Are you asking how we deal with exposing our weaknesses?

I guess it depends on the context. I'll talk about, say, my self esteem issues on the org with no problem, but it wouldn't come up in a conversation at work.

hmmm

I still don't think I know what you mean. lol


PunkMistress said:

Lammastide said:

What sort of vulnerabilities are you talking about? How I deal with them depends on what they are.


The things that make you soft and open to hurt. Fears, insecurities, negative beliefs about yourself, that kind of thing. The kind of thing we would like for people to believe don't exist in us.

I would, anyway.
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Reply #44 posted 11/23/09 7:06pm

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No, it's not all that. lol Overall I love and accept myself, and can see my own strengths and weaknesses with some measure of clarity.

I can see how that could be construed, though, based on what I've posted. It's actually my few insecurities/weaknesses that sometimes make me act like a crazy bitch. I'm not proud of it. I've had a giant chip on my shoulder since I was a tiny child.


i'm kind of the anti-you. i go around talking about how much i suck so that nobody else can hurt me by saying it.

that probably didn't make any sense. see, i did it again!
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Reply #45 posted 11/23/09 7:07pm

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whistle said:

PunkMistress said:

No, it's not all that. lol Overall I love and accept myself, and can see my own strengths and weaknesses with some measure of clarity.

I can see how that could be construed, though, based on what I've posted. It's actually my few insecurities/weaknesses that sometimes make me act like a crazy bitch. I'm not proud of it. I've had a giant chip on my shoulder since I was a tiny child.


i'm kind of the anti-you. i go around talking about how much i suck so that nobody else can hurt me by saying it.

that probably didn't make any sense. see, i did it again!


Yeah, I'm the opposite of that. Most of the time I think I'm pretty fucking great, and have no problem announcing it. lol
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Reply #46 posted 11/23/09 7:07pm

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PunkMistress said:

ZombieKitten said:



what kind of people are they then? not the kinds of folk you want to associate with really neutral


shrug

Some people do it without meaning to, because of their own damage.

nuts

yup
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Reply #47 posted 11/23/09 7:08pm

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whistle said:

PunkMistress said:

No, it's not all that. lol Overall I love and accept myself, and can see my own strengths and weaknesses with some measure of clarity.

I can see how that could be construed, though, based on what I've posted. It's actually my few insecurities/weaknesses that sometimes make me act like a crazy bitch. I'm not proud of it. I've had a giant chip on my shoulder since I was a tiny child.


i'm kind of the anti-you. i go around talking about how much i suck so that nobody else can hurt me by saying it.

that probably didn't make any sense. see, i did it again!

in some ways i do that too.
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Reply #48 posted 11/23/09 7:08pm

ZombieKitten

PunkMistress said:

ZombieKitten said:



what kind of people are they then? not the kinds of folk you want to associate with really neutral


shrug

Some people do it without meaning to, because of their own damage.

nuts


nod
and even if they DO mean it, it's also because of their own deficiencies, their own insecurities, their own muddled path in life

I have weeded out the problematic people from my life to be honest boxed
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Reply #49 posted 11/23/09 7:10pm

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ehuffnsd said:

ZombieKitten said:



everyone is going around holding stuff in that they hope nobody will find out, but sometimes I think, well what is so bad if they know?

they could use it against you.


Or just be disgusted by you because of your weakness/fears or the way they make you act.
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Reply #50 posted 11/23/09 7:12pm

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PunkMistress said:

ehuffnsd said:


they could use it against you.


Or just be disgusted by you because of your weakness/fears or the way they make you act.


but we all have these things...it's so stupid and pretentious to act otherwise.
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Reply #51 posted 11/23/09 7:12pm

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whistle said:

PunkMistress said:



Or just be disgusted by you because of your weakness/fears or the way they make you act.


but we all have these things...it's so stupid and pretentious to act otherwise.
[Edited 11/23/09 19:12pm]


True.
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Reply #52 posted 11/23/09 7:12pm

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ZombieKitten said:

PunkMistress said:



shrug

Some people do it without meaning to, because of their own damage.

nuts


nod
and even if they DO mean it, it's also because of their own deficiencies, their own insecurities, their own muddled path in life

I have weeded out the problematic people from my life to be honest boxed

it's harder to do when you've elected to live as a kinda public figure of sorts.
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Reply #53 posted 11/23/09 7:16pm

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ehuffnsd said:

ZombieKitten said:



nod
and even if they DO mean it, it's also because of their own deficiencies, their own insecurities, their own muddled path in life

I have weeded out the problematic people from my life to be honest boxed

it's harder to do when you've elected to live as a kinda public figure of sorts.


seriously. your social life seems so active and interesting, i don't know how you find time to post. smile

what the hell do i know, but you sure don't seem like a guy with a lot of down time...
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Reply #54 posted 11/23/09 7:17pm

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PunkMistress said:

JustErin said:



Self consciousness and being vulnerable are not the same things.


I would argue that being self-conscious is a vulnerability.


I don't think so. I can be totally self conscious without really opening up to why that is. I feel self loathing and self consciousness every day but it's not like I open myself enough to ever really talk about it. I'm not comfortable with feeling that way. I'd rather suffer in solitude. biggrin
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Reply #55 posted 11/23/09 7:18pm

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JustErin said:

PunkMistress said:



I would argue that being self-conscious is a vulnerability.


I don't think so. I can be totally self conscious without really opening up to why that is. I feel self loathing and self consciousness every day but it's not like I open myself enough to ever really talk about it. I'm not comfortable with feeling that way. I'd rather suffer in solitude. biggrin


So it's a symptom of your vulnerability?
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Reply #56 posted 11/23/09 7:19pm

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PunkMistress said:

JustErin said:



I don't think so. I can be totally self conscious without really opening up to why that is. I feel self loathing and self consciousness every day but it's not like I open myself enough to ever really talk about it. I'm not comfortable with feeling that way. I'd rather suffer in solitude. biggrin


So it's a symptom of your vulnerability?


Sure.
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Reply #57 posted 11/23/09 7:22pm

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this makes me what you tough gals think of men who cry.
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Reply #58 posted 11/23/09 7:22pm

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whistle said:

ehuffnsd said:


it's harder to do when you've elected to live as a kinda public figure of sorts.


seriously. your social life seems so active and interesting, i don't know how you find time to post. smile

what the hell do i know, but you sure don't seem like a guy with a lot of down time...

if i was working right now i wouldnt' have a lot of down time but since i've been unemployed since Feb i've had alot of time to stew in my insecurities.
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Reply #59 posted 11/23/09 7:25pm

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whistle said:

this makes me what you tough gals think of men who cry.


I find it very attractive in a guy...as long as it's expressing real vulnerable emotion and not because they just cry over everything.

I've had several so called tough guys feel comfortable enough to cry around me.
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