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booty said: ^what?? what mission is that? dang i don't get why people do that?
unless it's tied to money or something i think there's more to a relationship then just sex though ya thats my ex story by the way his wife wouldn't give him any so he went to other sources for that kind of stuff. oh believe me i know what an abusive relationship is. and i also know what being in a loving one is. you just have to tell between the two. [Edited 11/25/09 15:34pm] when you are in lust it's all on - I don't necessarily think people have sex to get someone to marry them , and it's only natural over the time of a long term relationship that the physical attraction novelty would wear off unevenly. | |
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ZombieKitten said: booty said: ^what?? what mission is that? dang i don't get why people do that?
unless it's tied to money or something i think there's more to a relationship then just sex though ya thats my ex story by the way his wife wouldn't give him any so he went to other sources for that kind of stuff. oh believe me i know what an abusive relationship is. and i also know what being in a loving one is. you just have to tell between the two. [Edited 11/25/09 15:34pm] when you are in lust it's all on - I don't necessarily think people have sex to get someone to marry them , and it's only natural over the time of a long term relationship that the physical attraction novelty would wear off unevenly. ya i agree with that much lol | |
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booty said: ZombieKitten said: when you are in lust it's all on - I don't necessarily think people have sex to get someone to marry them , and it's only natural over the time of a long term relationship that the physical attraction novelty would wear off unevenly. ya i agree with that much lol for one partner it may well wear off much sooner than for the other, and it probably isn't so much about not loving the other or anything like that. It's not so simple as just leave them! you have built a life together, probably had kids. Many MANY complex dynamics come into play misunderstandings, minor resentments, not feeling attractive, feeling unappreciated. Who is an expert on communication? Who took marriage lessons? Most folks are muddling along best they can, without knowing what it would be like when they took the plunge. I don't think it's fair to say things like mismatched libidos should be evident before marriage, what if you waited until the wedding night!!!! | |
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ZombieKitten said: booty said: ya i agree with that much lol for one partner it may well wear off much sooner than for the other, and it probably isn't so much about not loving the other or anything like that. It's not so simple as just leave them! you have built a life together, probably had kids. Many MANY complex dynamics come into play misunderstandings, minor resentments, not feeling attractive, feeling unappreciated. Who is an expert on communication? Who took marriage lessons? Most folks are muddling along best they can, without knowing what it would be like when they took the plunge. I don't think it's fair to say things like mismatched libidos should be evident before marriage, what if you waited until the wedding night!!!! i think thats why im happy i broke up with my ex cuz for one i don't think he was happy. straight up. i don't think i was the fix, cuz obviously something was bothering him and i soon found out that i couldn't fix this. and i didn't want to end up with being attatched to another person's baggage of marriage. its really complicated thing well im over it but marriage i know you mean thats responsibility. all i know is when my sister got married and had kids he became abusive and they fought all the time thats all i know. | |
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booty said: ZombieKitten said: for one partner it may well wear off much sooner than for the other, and it probably isn't so much about not loving the other or anything like that. It's not so simple as just leave them! you have built a life together, probably had kids. Many MANY complex dynamics come into play misunderstandings, minor resentments, not feeling attractive, feeling unappreciated. Who is an expert on communication? Who took marriage lessons? Most folks are muddling along best they can, without knowing what it would be like when they took the plunge. I don't think it's fair to say things like mismatched libidos should be evident before marriage, what if you waited until the wedding night!!!! i think thats why im happy i broke up with my ex cuz for one i don't think he was happy. straight up. i don't think i was the fix, cuz obviously something was bothering him and i soon found out that i couldn't fix this. and i didn't want to end up with being attatched to another person's baggage of marriage. its really complicated thing well im over it but marriage i know you mean thats responsibility. all i know is when my sister got married and had kids he became abusive and they fought all the time thats all i know. that's right, some things you just can't tell from the get go, you might not recognise the warning signs, especially if you married young. | |
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ZombieKitten said: CalhounSq said: I think if the situation doesn't improve & they can't reach a compromise after years, then yes. It's pretty unfair really - most people need that closeness & intimacy (& release!), so to be stuck in a marriage where a partner holds out indefinitely, yet its grounds for divorce to get it elsewhere?? It's wrong to play games in order to get the ring & then change-up once in the marriage, they're duping the other person into a life they may not necessarily want. & that's w/ sex, abuse (verbal, physical), etc. Sex seems to be the biggest ruse though (or maybe just the most complained about) what if it's not games, but a total mismatch in libido? Did the mismatch happen only after marriage? Or was it always mismatched? I guess in the end it doesn't really matter b/c it's still a problem. If some sort of counseling doesn't work I think the 2 people have to decide whats most important & how to proceed in the marriage if they still want to. But I think Ottie is right when she points to something overall lacking & the absence of intimacy being a symptom of a bigger problem. Some people put sex on the back burner & stick out the marriage b/c they put the kids & the love & the house first (among other things). I dunno if I could do it, I'd try to get more sex happening. & I might have to cheat on that mf if he didn't respond after therapy, which would make me feel more shitty & empty than not having enough sex Sometimes there's just no winning... | |
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PurpleRighteous1 said: ZombieKitten said: what if it's not games, but a total mismatch in libido? I think if that were the case, it would've made itself known before the relationship got to the marriage stage and those involved would've made their decisions accordingly. I have had some friends of friends who purposely do more in the bedroom than they want to do, to get someone to marry them and when they get the ring, they cut it off b/c they feel like the mission is accomplished. Yea, that's the stupid shit I'm talkin' about It's a damn shame! | |
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JustErin said: DesireeNevermind said: don't call me, I'll call you.
don't tell me about your drama, I aint interested. eat before you get here. I'll come by when I'm good and ready and if I aint....tough titty. Oh hell no, eat after you leave...not before. | |
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ZombieKitten said: booty said: ya i agree with that much lol for one partner it may well wear off much sooner than for the other, and it probably isn't so much about not loving the other or anything like that. It's not so simple as just leave them! you have built a life together, probably had kids. Many MANY complex dynamics come into play misunderstandings, minor resentments, not feeling attractive, feeling unappreciated. Who is an expert on communication? Who took marriage lessons? Most folks are muddling along best they can, without knowing what it would be like when they took the plunge. I don't think it's fair to say things like mismatched libidos should be evident before marriage, what if you waited until the wedding night!!!! All true, but I say be honest w/ them & get an outside party involved (counseling) to try to get what's needed in the marriage for both people to be happy. Its totally unfair for one partner to feel deprived all the time. | |
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CalhounSq said: PurpleRighteous1 said: I think if that were the case, it would've made itself known before the relationship got to the marriage stage and those involved would've made their decisions accordingly. I have had some friends of friends who purposely do more in the bedroom than they want to do, to get someone to marry them and when they get the ring, they cut it off b/c they feel like the mission is accomplished. Yea, that's the stupid shit I'm talkin' about It's a damn shame! yeah, I really DON'T understand people like that AT ALL. Are they a bit simple? marriage is a multi level partnership. Things have to work on all the levels, what ARE they thinking to enter into it with such childish ideas! | |
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whistle said: this thread makes me glad i don't particularly like sex.
why don't you like it? | |
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CalhounSq said: ZombieKitten said: what if it's not games, but a total mismatch in libido? Did the mismatch happen only after marriage? Or was it always mismatched? I guess in the end it doesn't really matter b/c it's still a problem. If some sort of counseling doesn't work I think the 2 people have to decide whats most important & how to proceed in the marriage if they still want to. But I think Ottie is right when she points to something overall lacking & the absence of intimacy being a symptom of a bigger problem. Some people put sex on the back burner & stick out the marriage b/c they put the kids & the love & the house first (among other things). I dunno if I could do it, I'd try to get more sex happening. & I might have to cheat on that mf if he didn't respond after therapy, which would make me feel more shitty & empty than not having enough sex Sometimes there's just no winning... say it became apparent after the initial in-lust "limmerance" period wore off, and you happen to have married before that what do you do then? | |
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ZombieKitten said: CalhounSq said: Yea, that's the stupid shit I'm talkin' about It's a damn shame! yeah, I really DON'T understand people like that AT ALL. Are they a bit simple? marriage is a multi level partnership. Things have to work on all the levels, what ARE they thinking to enter into it with such childish ideas! I honestly think people who play games like that have no idea what it really takes to make a LIFE w/ someone. They want the ring, the ceremony, the control thereafter, the "stuff". If they're starting out being dishonest, where the hell do they go from there but down? | |
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ZombieKitten said: CalhounSq said: Did the mismatch happen only after marriage? Or was it always mismatched? I guess in the end it doesn't really matter b/c it's still a problem. If some sort of counseling doesn't work I think the 2 people have to decide whats most important & how to proceed in the marriage if they still want to. But I think Ottie is right when she points to something overall lacking & the absence of intimacy being a symptom of a bigger problem. Some people put sex on the back burner & stick out the marriage b/c they put the kids & the love & the house first (among other things). I dunno if I could do it, I'd try to get more sex happening. & I might have to cheat on that mf if he didn't respond after therapy, which would make me feel more shitty & empty than not having enough sex Sometimes there's just no winning... say it became apparent after the initial in-lust "limmerance" period wore off, and you happen to have married before that what do you do then? COUPLES THERAPY | |
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CalhounSq said: ZombieKitten said: yeah, I really DON'T understand people like that AT ALL. Are they a bit simple? marriage is a multi level partnership. Things have to work on all the levels, what ARE they thinking to enter into it with such childish ideas! I honestly think people who play games like that have no idea what it really takes to make a LIFE w/ someone. They want the ring, the ceremony, the control thereafter, the "stuff". If they're starting out being dishonest, where the hell do they go from there but down? it's immaturity and materialism at it's worst, the "look what I got myself" selfish, childish mentality that has no grip on reality. | |
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CalhounSq said: ZombieKitten said: say it became apparent after the initial in-lust "limmerance" period wore off, and you happen to have married before that what do you do then? COUPLES THERAPY I'm not talking one totally like NEVER putting out, I mean like 15 years down the track, one STILL wants some action 4-5 times a week, and the other is perfectly happy with twice a month for example. It's not really so bad that a professional needs to be called in, or is it? | |
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ZombieKitten said: CalhounSq said: COUPLES THERAPY I'm not talking one totally like NEVER putting out, I mean like 15 years down the track, one STILL wants some action 4-5 times a week, and the other is perfectly happy with twice a month for example. It's not really so bad that a professional needs to be called in, or is it? I'd be pissed, but that's just me... The question is, are both partners happy enough to continue on this way? If not, therapy... | |
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ZombieKitten said: booty said: ya i agree with that much lol for one partner it may well wear off much sooner than for the other, and it probably isn't so much about not loving the other or anything like that. It's not so simple as just leave them! you have built a life together, probably had kids. Many MANY complex dynamics come into play misunderstandings, minor resentments, not feeling attractive, feeling unappreciated. Who is an expert on communication? Who took marriage lessons? Most folks are muddling along best they can, without knowing what it would be like when they took the plunge. I don't think it's fair to say things like mismatched libidos should be evident before marriage, what if you waited until the wedding night!!!! "I saw a woman with major Hammer pants on the subway a few weeks ago and totally thought of you." - sextonseven | |
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I agree with the fact that if I'm going to have casual sex, it has to be with someone I know very well and trust 100%. But, my #1 rule is DON'T FALL IN LOVE! I've made that mistake and it turned into a nightmare and I ended up turning the person off in the process. "It's not nice to fuck with K.B.! All you haters will see!" - Kitbradley
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kitbradley said: I agree with the fact that if I'm going to have casual sex, it has to be with someone I know very well and trust 100%. But, my #1 rule is DON'T FALL IN LOVE! I've made that mistake and it turned into a nightmare and I ended up turning the person off in the process.
But can one control their feelings? Can one control the falling-in-love part? I swear the words "HATER" is wayyy over-rated...smh | |
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JayJai said: kitbradley said: I agree with the fact that if I'm going to have casual sex, it has to be with someone I know very well and trust 100%. But, my #1 rule is DON'T FALL IN LOVE! I've made that mistake and it turned into a nightmare and I ended up turning the person off in the process.
But can one control their feelings? Can one control the falling-in-love part? I don't think you can | |
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ZombieKitten said: whistle said: this thread makes me glad i don't particularly like sex.
why don't you like it? can i orgnote the answer to this question? everyone's a fruit & nut case | |
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whistle said: ZombieKitten said: why don't you like it? can i orgnote the answer to this question? of course! but only if you want, I don't mean to pry, but since you keep bringing it up, I'm curious | |
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scream my name often.
do not request to make plans in advance. never use real name on contact list no cuddling, ever! don't call just to shoot the shit. when you leave take all your shit with you. no faking orgasms! | |
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JustErin said: For me it works best with someone I know really well and trust 100% and it goes on for years (as long as I'm single).
It HAS to be with someone that I respect and have great sexual chemistry with but do not want to be with in a romantic relationship because our personalities just don't work together that way. Hanging out as friends stopped a long time ago. And the only rule is that we always tell each other if we are having sex with someone else. this works.. 'why y'all trying to say goodbye? I didn't go anywhere, I'm right here, im all around you,always..'
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ya no suprises nothing sucks more then when your chilling and then like the superviser roll by when yall are kicking it, doing your thang and smoking or whatever, it's saying you can't be trusted to be a person to kick it also cuz your always runnning away every second and paranoid.
no cuddling ahhhhh thats my favorite thing lmao @ ronnie [Edited 11/27/09 3:00am] | |
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