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Reply #60 posted 11/19/09 3:15pm

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PurpleLove7 said:

This is a sore subject for me but ... never-mind

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Reply #61 posted 11/19/09 6:42pm

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I was ready to say "good" until I read how old this kid was. But, my uncle was that same age when he started molesting me and two of my sisters and cousins and etc. I am generally a peace loving person but I would have no qualms about someone shooting him in the head. I would have some type of closure right now.
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Reply #62 posted 11/19/09 6:50pm

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I was ready to say "good" until I read how old this kid was. But, my uncle was that same age when he started molesting me and two of my sisters and cousins and etc. I am generally a peace loving person but I would have no qualms about someone shooting him in the head. I would have some type of closure right now.


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Reply #63 posted 11/19/09 7:01pm

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A Highland Park teenager was shot to death execution style after he confessed to inappropriately touching his 3-year-old half sister. Detroit police say Jamar Pinkney Sr. barged into Jamar Pinkney Jr.’s home, where he lived with his mother, and beat the boy before ordering him to strip naked. He then led the frightened 15-year-old out into a field where he shot him to death.

Lazette Cherry, Jamar’s mother said she was only trying to teach her son discipline when she called his father and told him what the boy had done. “I called and told his father this isn’t something you sweep under the rug,” Cherry said Wednesday.

Pinkney Sr., who was separated from Cherry and lived with the 3-year-old and her mother, rushed to the home with a gun.

“He started beating him right here,” Cherry said from her living room. “I said, ‘No, please stop!’ “ She said Pinkney Sr. marched the boy naked out of the house — in full view of neighbors — and ordered him on his knees.

“He got on his knees and begged, ‘No, Daddy! No!’ and he pulled the trigger,” Cherry said from her home on North Street in Highland Park. “There wasn’t nothing that my son wouldn’t do for his father. He loved his father so much.”

Jamar was shot once in the back of the head. Pinkney then calmly drove away. He was arrested 3 hours later and charged with one count of first-degree murder, three counts of felonious assault and one count of felony firearm.

Cherry said the 3-year-old’s mother took the girl to a hospital to be examined Sunday. She said Jamar told her he never raped the child and kept his clothes on.

A physical exam showed no evidence of sexual trauma.

Pinkney is being held without bond.


This is so sad on so many levels sad


I haven't read the thread yet, but I expect nothing but cheers.
This is what everyone seems to want . . . .reading the comments regarding other cases.
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Reply #64 posted 11/19/09 7:03pm

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damn...that brought a whole new meaning to "I brought you in this world and I can take you out" eek

I can't lie....if my kid did such a thing I might beat his ass too. Hell a few weeks ago his daycare was telling me he had his zipper down and was with a little girl who had her shirt up.... eek ....and when they got through, and he got through stuttering and lying, I thought to myself, let me not even lay hands on this child because I might truly kill him. I was that irate!

So I think I could truly understand....but man, that takes some serious balls and anger to shoot your own seed....maybe this was something that had built up with chronic behavioral issues or something.

BTW I don't think my kid molested a little girl, but I was truly mad at him for being so damn ignorant to get in this situation, because he has been told about his own privates and about lil girl privates and that there should not be hugging, lap sitting, or undressing.
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Reply #65 posted 11/19/09 7:03pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

banks said:



A lot of times this a learned behavior and i'd wish he had took the time to find out why the kid did it



by he would know, it is when they are like 5 or 6. That was taught. If I knew a kid that played piano at 7 years old I would assume he had lessons. Same with a child that young that is acting out sexually.


You don't know that . . . .
He was 15 years old.
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Reply #66 posted 11/19/09 7:04pm

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banks said:

Can that kid be called a pedophile ? considering that he was a child himself ?

Yes. The law would have made him register as a sex offender for life.
Even if he were having sex with another 15 year old, he could be forced to register as a sex offender for life.
That's the law.
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Reply #67 posted 11/19/09 7:06pm

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luv4u said:

OMG this is sick on all levels .... but to kill your own flesh and blood? sad disbelief

But don't we want sexual predators simply lined up and shot? Isn't that paramount?
Why should flesh and blood change that imperative to kill?
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Reply #68 posted 11/19/09 7:07pm

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Graycap23 said:

banks said:



Are you serious homie ? a 15 yr old needs to be dealt with like that ?

If he was guilty.....so be it.



Isn't this the first time people DID NOT want to instantly execute an accused pedophile up in here?
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Reply #69 posted 11/19/09 7:08pm

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SCNDLS said:

banks said:



Are you serious homie ? a 15 yr old needs to be dealt with like that ?

By his OWN father??? whofarted And I don't think he was proven to be a pedophile.

When does it have to be proven? This is the org.
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Reply #70 posted 11/19/09 7:09pm

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kpowers said:

Wow. What about the neighbors who had to watch that. disbelief

The did not HAVE to watch. They would have chosen to.
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Reply #71 posted 11/19/09 7:09pm

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Graycap23 said:

JustErin said:




But all is not lost. Things can change...

Any.....and ALL rapist and pedophiles need 2 put DOWN.
Even potential ones.

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Reply #72 posted 11/19/09 7:11pm

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paintedlady said:

Graycap23 said:


1 thing is 4 sure.....he won't be molesting anyone else.

Yeah, but with dad in jail... who will be a father to her now? What if step dad molests little girl too? What then?




I don't think the guy who killed his son was the girl's father.
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Reply #73 posted 11/19/09 7:13pm

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peacenlovealways said:

He's 15 he knows the difference between right and wrong. I think if a father finds out their young daughter was raped or molested they would want revenge too...even if it's a relative.

Again, are we sure that the girl was his daughter?
The article says she was the guys half sister. . . .
I think they had different fathers and the same mother.
They guy's father did not live with him.
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Reply #74 posted 11/19/09 7:14pm

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Phishanga said:

JustErin said:






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Can't believe some things posted here sometimes.



Missed the point by a mile.

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Reply #75 posted 11/19/09 8:41pm

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SUPRMAN said:

paintedlady said:


Yeah, but with dad in jail... who will be a father to her now? What if step dad molests little girl too? What then?




I don't think the guy who killed his son was the girl's father.

The article said that he was the father of that little girl... one thing is for sure, this is the second story I heard this week of a parent killing their own. This father obviously didn't value his son's life and loved his daughter more. Sounds like he didn't even talk to his son to find out what exactly did happen.

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Reply #76 posted 11/19/09 8:42pm

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SUPRMAN said:

peacenlovealways said:

He's 15 he knows the difference between right and wrong. I think if a father finds out their young daughter was raped or molested they would want revenge too...even if it's a relative.

Again, are we sure that the girl was his daughter?
The article says she was the guys half sister. . . .
I think they had different fathers and the same mother.
They guy's father did not live with him.

Different mothers same father.
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Reply #77 posted 11/19/09 9:35pm

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paintedlady said:

SUPRMAN said:


Again, are we sure that the girl was his daughter?
The article says she was the guys half sister. . . .
I think they had different fathers and the same mother.
They guy's father did not live with him.

Different mothers same father.

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Reply #78 posted 11/20/09 12:20am

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This story clearly illustrates how much we do not value young black boys in America.

Young black boys are the most neglected of all children IMHO. Most that have gone missing are never reported by the media so search efforts are minimal, most abused never are allowed to get counseling or any help, most end up in bad situations due to parents that tell them to "man up and get over it", most are never nurtured in a loving way.

Most little black boys are NEVER protected, never loved and we wonder why so many of these young black boys grow up to be all messed up.

We need to change how we protect our young black men/boys and we need to hug them, support them and look out for them more. rose

I'm generalizing, but I'm sure you get my point.
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Reply #79 posted 11/20/09 12:49am

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I think it should have stopped at the ass whooping. But I can see how the father may have gone there thinking his 3 year old had been all out raped. He can use a temporary insanity defense depending on how long it took him to get from home to the son's house and whether he had any violence toward the son before (have to exclude pre-meditation).

I feel sorry for the dad, the new baby momma and the boy's mother and this little girl who may grow up with a family more dysfunctional than it was prior to the murder. However, I have no sympathy for that boy. He loved his father? GTFO! Yeah he loved daddy so much he decided to finger fuck daddy's 3 year old baby. And the medical examiners get on my nerves talking about sexual trauma. They think as long as nothing was busted, cut and bleeding that there was no trauma but what about psychological trauma? How is that 3 year old suppose to process what was done to her?

I'm sure as time went on he would have done a lot more and a lot worse. Who knows how many other children he might have molested. It's never just one kid. Some molesters start early and contrary to popular opinion not all of them have personal history of sex abuse. Some of them just have a sexual attraction to children.

I'm wondering about this mother. Why would she call the dad and not the little girl's mother? What did she expect the reaction from either of those parents to be? She couldn't have thought they would all sit down and talk about it.
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Reply #80 posted 11/20/09 1:02am

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DesireeNevermind said:

I think it should have stopped at the ass whooping. But I can see how the father may have gone there thinking his 3 year old had been all out raped. He can use a temporary insanity defense depending on how long it took him to get from home to the son's house and whether he had any violence toward the son before (have to exclude pre-meditation).

I feel sorry for the dad, the new baby momma and the boy's mother and this little girl who may grow up with a family more dysfunctional than it was prior to the murder. However, I have no sympathy for that boy. He loved his father? GTFO! Yeah he loved daddy so much he decided to finger fuck daddy's 3 year old baby. And the medical examiners get on my nerves talking about sexual trauma. They think as long as nothing was busted, cut and bleeding that there was no trauma but what about psychological trauma? How is that 3 year old suppose to process what was done to her?

I'm sure as time went on he would have done a lot more and a lot worse. Who knows how many other children he might have molested. It's never just one kid. Some molesters start early and contrary to popular opinion not all of them have personal history of sex abuse. Some of them just have a sexual attraction to children.

I'm wondering about this mother. Why would she call the dad and not the little girl's mother? What did she expect the reaction from either of those parents to be? She couldn't have thought they would all sit down and talk about it.


I think the mother of the boy was just stupid. You know as a mother how much your child's father loves them. This father had ZERO love for his son if he could calmly drive away after shooting his namesake in the head. That father intended to kill that boy as soon as he heard about his daughter. IMO

This boy didn't deserve this. He wasn't loved, the way he was killed proves it.
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Reply #81 posted 11/20/09 1:05am

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paintedlady said:

DesireeNevermind said:

I think it should have stopped at the ass whooping. But I can see how the father may have gone there thinking his 3 year old had been all out raped. He can use a temporary insanity defense depending on how long it took him to get from home to the son's house and whether he had any violence toward the son before (have to exclude pre-meditation).

I feel sorry for the dad, the new baby momma and the boy's mother and this little girl who may grow up with a family more dysfunctional than it was prior to the murder. However, I have no sympathy for that boy. He loved his father? GTFO! Yeah he loved daddy so much he decided to finger fuck daddy's 3 year old baby. And the medical examiners get on my nerves talking about sexual trauma. They think as long as nothing was busted, cut and bleeding that there was no trauma but what about psychological trauma? How is that 3 year old suppose to process what was done to her?

I'm sure as time went on he would have done a lot more and a lot worse. Who knows how many other children he might have molested. It's never just one kid. Some molesters start early and contrary to popular opinion not all of them have personal history of sex abuse. Some of them just have a sexual attraction to children.

I'm wondering about this mother. Why would she call the dad and not the little girl's mother? What did she expect the reaction from either of those parents to be? She couldn't have thought they would all sit down and talk about it.


I think the mother of the boy was just stupid. You know as a mother how much your child's father loves them. This father had ZERO love for his son if he could calmly drive away after shooting his namesake in the head. That father intended to kill that boy as soon as he heard about his daughter. IMO

This boy didn't deserve this. He wasn't loved, the way he was killed proves it.



I don't think either parent loved him. disbelief I'm suspicious on how she says she called him and told him "this isn't something you sweep under the rug". Maybe I'm reading too much into that statement but it seems she may have inflated the situation to where this man felt he might as well kill his son. I mean who says it like that?


damn if that boy wasn't a dead ringer for his dad. like looking at a childhood photo of the father.
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Reply #82 posted 11/20/09 2:55am

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How do you know if he was telling the truth, most probs be a cry for help.



and all Children should be loved and cared for no matter what, until they can think for themsevles, I dont believe there should be an age limit on it either as you can get some 15 yr olds who are more mature than some adults.
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Reply #83 posted 11/20/09 4:12am

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SUPRMAN said:

kpowers said:

Wow. What about the neighbors who had to watch that. disbelief

The did not HAVE to watch. They would have chosen to.



Well I'm sure it must of caught them off guard.
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Reply #84 posted 11/20/09 6:02am

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SUPRMAN said:

Phishanga said:




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Can't believe some things posted here sometimes.



Missed the point by a mile.

Minority report is about stopping people from committing crimes before the crimes occur.


Huh?
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Reply #85 posted 11/20/09 8:22am

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DesireeNevermind said:

I think it should have stopped at the ass whooping. But I can see how the father may have gone there thinking his 3 year old had been all out raped. He can use a temporary insanity defense depending on how long it took him to get from home to the son's house and whether he had any violence toward the son before (have to exclude pre-meditation).

I feel sorry for the dad, the new baby momma and the boy's mother and this little girl who may grow up with a family more dysfunctional than it was prior to the murder. However, I have no sympathy for that boy. He loved his father? GTFO! Yeah he loved daddy so much he decided to finger fuck daddy's 3 year old baby. And the medical examiners get on my nerves talking about sexual trauma. They think as long as nothing was busted, cut and bleeding that there was no trauma but what about psychological trauma? How is that 3 year old suppose to process what was done to her?

I'm sure as time went on he would have done a lot more and a lot worse. Who knows how many other children he might have molested. It's never just one kid. Some molesters start early and contrary to popular opinion not all of them have personal history of sex abuse. Some of them just have a sexual attraction to children.

I'm wondering about this mother. Why would she call the dad and not the little girl's mother? What did she expect the reaction from either of those parents to be? She couldn't have thought they would all sit down and talk about it.


The fact that he had to drive to the home, is premeditation.
The argument has to be that he did not intend to kill his son when he went to the home. Very tough to prove here.
If did not have the gun on his person when he left his house, it's arguably premeditation. If he had to get the gun, what other purpose would he have needed the gun for to deal with his 15 year old son. He can't credibly say he felt threatened, so he went to the threat . . . .

If the gun was in the car, he had to get the gun before going into the house.
To suggest there wasn't a belt or some other tool to discipline isn't credible. That's premeditation.

Marching his son outside to a parking lot is premeditation.
It's hard to argue that he did not intend to kill his son when he marched him out of the house. Premeditation.

It's first degree murder with malice aforethought. (He intended to kill and did kill.)

Temporary insanity? Doubtful also. He wasn't in the home. He had to take time to get there. No problem doing that or confronting his son.
His emotional state isn't going to be enough to say that he was not in a state of mind to know what he was doing.
Why march his naked son outside? Why shoot him execution style? Why shoot him in a parking lot? None of that says insanity. It says deliberation.
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Reply #86 posted 11/20/09 8:36am

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Whole story is truly sad sad I mean the kid was 15 and there was no sexual trauma evidence. That guy needs lethal injection neutral I know a lady that claims that another girl inappropriately touched a younger grandchild of hers, but that doesn't give reason for this shit-really sad. It would happen in my hometown like Detroit needs more bad news sigh
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Reply #87 posted 11/20/09 11:13am

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I was thinking about this and what if he had religious mania in his head and believed something to be innapropriate that really wasn't? neutral neutral neutral
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Reply #88 posted 11/20/09 12:46pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

I was thinking about this and what if he had religious mania in his head and believed something to be innapropriate that really wasn't? neutral neutral neutral



finger fucking your 3 year old baby sister is never appropriate.
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DesireeNevermind said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

I was thinking about this and what if he had religious mania in his head and believed something to be innapropriate that really wasn't? neutral neutral neutral



finger fucking your 3 year old baby sister is never appropriate.

Is this proven that is what he did? I didn't read that anywhere and if that is stated in this thread, OBVIOUSLY I didn't read it because that is obvious and separate from my statement above.
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