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Reply #30 posted 11/19/09 11:32am

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banks said:

Graycap23 said:

Hummm..... we as a society need 2 deal with all pedophiles in this manner.

Just my 2 pennies.


Are you serious homie ? a 15 yr old needs to be dealt with like that ?

By his OWN father??? whofarted And I don't think he was proven to be a pedophile.
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Reply #31 posted 11/19/09 11:41am

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Graycap23 said:

Hummm..... we as a society need 2 deal with all pedophiles in this manner.

Just my 2 pennies.


Stripping them down naked and shooting them in the head?

No, we as a society need to stop this shit from happening in the first place.
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Reply #32 posted 11/19/09 11:44am

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Graycap23 said:

Hummm..... we as a society need 2 deal with all pedophiles in this manner.

Just my 2 pennies.

I believe cycles need to be broken. That is one way of doing it but it fosters more tragedy and sadness in the process.
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Reply #33 posted 11/19/09 11:46am

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JustErin said:

Graycap23 said:

Hummm..... we as a society need 2 deal with all pedophiles in this manner.

Just my 2 pennies.


Stripping them down naked and shooting them in the head?

No, we as a society need to stop this shit from happening in the first place.

Society could NOT be doing a worse job of that.
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Reply #34 posted 11/19/09 11:46am

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Here's how the teenage boy's aunt recalls the incident:

“He beat my nephew real bad in the head, where he had knots like he had been in a boxing ring ... [When Cherry tried to intervene, the father pulled out a gun.]"

“I ran down the street to get police down here and I heard a gunshot,"
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Reply #35 posted 11/19/09 11:49am

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Wow. What about the neighbors who had to watch that. disbelief
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Reply #36 posted 11/19/09 11:49am

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Graycap23 said:

JustErin said:



Stripping them down naked and shooting them in the head?

No, we as a society need to stop this shit from happening in the first place.

Society could NOT be doing a worse job of that.


Society is really not doing anything about that. It's a society that spends all its resources on punishment and nothing on prevention.
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Reply #37 posted 11/19/09 11:52am

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JustErin said:

Graycap23 said:


Society could NOT be doing a worse job of that.


Society is really not doing anything about that. It's a society that spends all its resources on punishment and nothing on prevention.
[Edited 11/19/09 11:49am]

That's my point.
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Reply #38 posted 11/19/09 11:58am

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Graycap23 said:

JustErin said:



Society is really not doing anything about that. It's a society that spends all its resources on punishment and nothing on prevention.
[Edited 11/19/09 11:49am]

That's my point.



But all is not lost. Things can change...
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Reply #39 posted 11/19/09 12:00pm

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JustErin said:

Graycap23 said:


That's my point.



But all is not lost. Things can change...

Any.....and ALL rapist and pedophiles need 2 put DOWN.
Even potential ones.
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Reply #40 posted 11/19/09 12:24pm

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Graycap23 said:

JustErin said:




But all is not lost. Things can change...

Any.....and ALL rapist and pedophiles need 2 put DOWN.
Even potential ones.


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Reply #41 posted 11/19/09 12:26pm

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JustErin said:

Graycap23 said:


Any.....and ALL rapist and pedophiles need 2 put DOWN.
Even potential ones.



Tom Cruise is a paedophile!?!?

omfg
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Reply #42 posted 11/19/09 12:42pm

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Graycap23 said:

Hummm..... we as a society need 2 deal with all pedophiles in this manner.

Just my 2 pennies.


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Reply #43 posted 11/19/09 12:48pm

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sad sad sad
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Reply #44 posted 11/19/09 12:51pm

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banks said:

Here's how the teenage boy's aunt recalls the incident:

“He beat my nephew real bad in the head, where he had knots like he had been in a boxing ring ... [When Cherry tried to intervene, the father pulled out a gun.]"

“I ran down the street to get police down here and I heard a gunshot,"

Sounds to me like the father was a damn psycho in the first place.
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Reply #45 posted 11/19/09 1:14pm

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2elijah said:

banks said:

Here's how the teenage boy's aunt recalls the incident:

“He beat my nephew real bad in the head, where he had knots like he had been in a boxing ring ... [When Cherry tried to intervene, the father pulled out a gun.]"

“I ran down the street to get police down here and I heard a gunshot,"

Sounds to me like the father was a damn psycho in the first place.

if he wasn't psycho, he sure became psychotic upon learning that his daughter was molested. This is why mom should have called the police first to intervene. I would call the police on my own children, maybe if mom did that she would still have her son now. sigh damn. You just never know how a father will react.
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Reply #46 posted 11/19/09 1:25pm

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paintedlady said:

Why the hell did mom not call the police BEFORE her son was led out the house to be shot?

Um, if my son were to tell me he touched his little sister, the last thing I would do is call her daddy....
I would call the police to take my son away... I would do it in a way were my son, his father or the neighbors would not know that the police were coming. Just get my girl to a Dr. and hold son in a jail cell until all could be figured out.

So very sad. rose

The moment sounded so violent and immediate. Maybe she had no time amid trying to plead and deter her ex; or maybe she was even afraid. The guy had a gun.
Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ
πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν
τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.”
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Reply #47 posted 11/19/09 1:32pm

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Lammastide said:

paintedlady said:

Why the hell did mom not call the police BEFORE her son was led out the house to be shot?

Um, if my son were to tell me he touched his little sister, the last thing I would do is call her daddy....
I would call the police to take my son away... I would do it in a way were my son, his father or the neighbors would not know that the police were coming. Just get my girl to a Dr. and hold son in a jail cell until all could be figured out.

So very sad. rose

The moment sounded so violent and immediate. Maybe she had no time amid trying to plead and deter her ex; or maybe she was even afraid. The guy had a gun.

I think she was just as terrified as her son was. She might have froze in horror which is perfectly understandable, but damn... her son's life was on the line.
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Reply #48 posted 11/19/09 1:36pm

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paintedlady said:

Lammastide said:


The moment sounded so violent and immediate. Maybe she had no time amid trying to plead and deter her ex; or maybe she was even afraid. The guy had a gun.

I think she was just as terrified as her son was. She might have froze in horror which is perfectly understandable, but damn... her son's life was on the line.

1 thing is 4 sure.....he won't be molesting anyone else.
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Reply #49 posted 11/19/09 1:42pm

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Graycap23 said:

paintedlady said:


I think she was just as terrified as her son was. She might have froze in horror which is perfectly understandable, but damn... her son's life was on the line.

1 thing is 4 sure.....he won't be molesting anyone else.

Yeah, but with dad in jail... who will be a father to her now? What if step dad molests little girl too? What then?
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Reply #50 posted 11/19/09 1:43pm

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The levels of tragedy here are mind boggling. Before we even get to the psychotic, murderous vigilanteeism of this "father" or whether or not the boy himself was acting on learned behavior, do we even know the character of this alleged touching?!? confuse I can't think of a situation where it would be appropriate -- if it even truly happened -- but did the boy try to digitally penetrate the girl or simulate some sex act, or did he simply touch her? In what context did the touching happen? Was it spontaneous, coercive, in the reckless mutual play of two kids? How functioning was the boy? Any diagnosed impulse control problems? Mental retardation or social/developmental delays? And how did this "confession" come about? Was it spontaneous or coercive? Were any of the adults trying to cover up anything in this all?

All this stuff seems completely thrown aside. And for all the flaws in our justice and child welfare systems, due process has a place... otherwise folk -- like not only this boy, but now his father, mother, half-sister, friends, neighbors, classmates, even strangers halfway around the planet reading this on prince.org -- unnecessarily suffer. This is utter BS.
[Edited 11/19/09 13:48pm]
Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ
πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν
τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.”
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Reply #51 posted 11/19/09 1:43pm

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paintedlady said:

Graycap23 said:


1 thing is 4 sure.....he won't be molesting anyone else.

Yeah, but with dad in jail... who will be a father to her now? What if step dad molests little girl too? What then?

I'm only dealing in absolutes in this case.
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Reply #52 posted 11/19/09 1:46pm

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Lammastide said:

The levels of tragedy here are mind boggling. Before we even get to the psychotic, murderous vigilanteeism of this "father" or whether or not the boy himself was acting on learned behavior, do we even know the character of this alleged touching?!? confuse I can't think of a situation where it would be appropriate -- if it even truly happened [/i] -- but did the boy try to digitally penetrate the girl or simulate some sex act, or did he simply touch her? In what context did the touching happen? Was it spontaneous, coercive, in reckless mutual play? How functioning was the boy? Any diagnosed impulse control problems? Mental retardation or social/developmental delays? And how did this "confession" come about? Was it spontaneous or coercive?

All this stuff seems completely thrown aside. And for all the flaws in our justice and child welfare systems, due process has a place... otherwise folk -- like not only this boy, but now his father, half-sister, friends, neighbors, even strangers reading this on prince.org -- unnecessarily suffer. This is utter BS.


Exactly.. neutral
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Reply #53 posted 11/19/09 1:49pm

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Lammastide said:

The levels of tragedy here are mind boggling. Before we even get to the psychotic, murderous vigilanteeism of this "father" or whether or not the boy himself was acting on learned behavior, do we even know the character of this alleged touching?!? confuse I can't think of a situation where it would be appropriate -- if it even truly happened -- but did the boy try to digitally penetrate the girl or simulate some sex act, or did he simply touch her? In what context did the touching happen? Was it spontaneous, coercive, in the reckless mutual play of two kids? How functioning was the boy? Any diagnosed impulse control problems? Mental retardation or social/developmental delays? And how did this "confession" come about? Was it spontaneous or coercive? Were any of the adults trying to cover up anything in this all?

All this stuff seems completely thrown aside. And for all the flaws in our justice and child welfare systems, due process has a place... otherwise folk -- like not only this boy, but now his father, half-sister, friends, neighbors, even strangers reading this on prince.org -- unnecessarily suffer. This is utter BS.
[Edited 11/19/09 13:45pm]


Cherry said the 3-year-old’s mother took the girl to a hospital to be examined Sunday. She said Jamar told her he never raped the child and kept his clothes on.

A physical exam showed no evidence of sexual trauma.
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Reply #54 posted 11/19/09 1:49pm

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Lammastide said:

The levels of tragedy here are mind boggling. Before we even get to the psychotic, murderous vigilanteeism of this "father" or whether or not the boy himself was acting on learned behavior, do we even know the character of this alleged touching?!? confuse I can't think of a situation where it would be appropriate -- if it even truly happened -- but did the boy try to digitally penetrate the girl or simulate some sex act, or did he simply touch her? In what context did the touching happen? Was it spontaneous, coercive, in the reckless mutual play of two kids? How functioning was the boy? Any diagnosed impulse control problems? Mental retardation or social/developmental delays? And how did this "confession" come about? Was it spontaneous or coercive? Were any of the adults trying to cover up anything in this all?

All this stuff seems completely thrown aside. And for all the flaws in our justice and child welfare systems, due process has a place... otherwise folk -- like not only this boy, but now his father, half-sister, friends, neighbors, even strangers reading this on prince.org -- unnecessarily suffer. This is utter BS.
[Edited 11/19/09 13:45pm]


nod it sure is. sigh
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Reply #55 posted 11/19/09 2:07pm

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paintedlady said:

Lammastide said:

The levels of tragedy here are mind boggling. Before we even get to the psychotic, murderous vigilanteeism of this "father" or whether or not the boy himself was acting on learned behavior, do we even know the character of this alleged touching?!? confuse I can't think of a situation where it would be appropriate -- if it even truly happened -- but did the boy try to digitally penetrate the girl or simulate some sex act, or did he simply touch her? In what context did the touching happen? Was it spontaneous, coercive, in the reckless mutual play of two kids? How functioning was the boy? Any diagnosed impulse control problems? Mental retardation or social/developmental delays? And how did this "confession" come about? Was it spontaneous or coercive? Were any of the adults trying to cover up anything in this all?

All this stuff seems completely thrown aside. And for all the flaws in our justice and child welfare systems, due process has a place... otherwise folk -- like not only this boy, but now his father, half-sister, friends, neighbors, even strangers reading this on prince.org -- unnecessarily suffer. This is utter BS.
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nod it sure is. sigh

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Reply #56 posted 11/19/09 2:21pm

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This is a sore subject for me but ... never-mind
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Reply #57 posted 11/19/09 2:29pm

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Lammastide said:

The levels of tragedy here are mind boggling. Before we even get to the psychotic, murderous vigilanteeism of this "father" or whether or not the boy himself was acting on learned behavior, do we even know the character of this alleged touching?!? confuse I can't think of a situation where it would be appropriate -- if it even truly happened -- but did the boy try to digitally penetrate the girl or simulate some sex act, or did he simply touch her? In what context did the touching happen? Was it spontaneous, coercive, in the reckless mutual play of two kids? How functioning was the boy? Any diagnosed impulse control problems? Mental retardation or social/developmental delays? And how did this "confession" come about? Was it spontaneous or coercive? Were any of the adults trying to cover up anything in this all?

All this stuff seems completely thrown aside. And for all the flaws in our justice and child welfare systems, due process has a place... otherwise folk -- like not only this boy, but now his father, mother, half-sister, friends, neighbors, classmates, even strangers halfway around the planet reading this on prince.org -- unnecessarily suffer. This is utter BS.
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Trillion % agree. This is so saddening. That boy was probably victimized himself as a child. The fact that he came clean means he was looking for help. Instead a life gone, lives ruined and yeah nobody even knows what really happened.
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Reply #58 posted 11/19/09 2:37pm

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He's 15 he knows the difference between right and wrong. I think if a father finds out their young daughter was raped or molested they would want revenge too...even if it's a relative.
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Reply #59 posted 11/19/09 2:40pm

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JustErin said:

Graycap23 said:


Any.....and ALL rapist and pedophiles need 2 put DOWN.
Even potential ones.





nod

Can't believe some things posted here sometimes.
Hey loudmouth, shut the fuck up, right?
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