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Reply #30 posted 01/11/03 3:42pm

Natsume

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No Aaron, you are not a bad person nor selfish.

Sorry to hear it happened, though.
I mean, like, where is the sun?
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Reply #31 posted 01/11/03 3:46pm

AaronUnlimited

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migente777 said:


[Snip. Offtopic attention-seeking ramblings removed. Ian]



i bet i know where i can find one. apparently it works.
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Reply #32 posted 01/11/03 3:49pm

AaronUnlimited

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Natsume said:

No Aaron, you are not a bad person nor selfish.

Sorry to hear it happened, though.



thanks.
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Reply #33 posted 01/11/03 3:49pm

AaronUnlimited

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migente777 said:


[Snip. Offtopic attention-seeking ramblings removed. Ian]



well, i don't know if it'll be brighter.
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Reply #34 posted 01/11/03 3:52pm

TRON

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[Snip. Offtopic attention-seeking ramblings removed. Ian]

What's wrong migente? What's gotcha so down?
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Reply #35 posted 01/11/03 3:53pm

AaronUnlimited

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migente777 said:

[Snip. Offtopic attention-seeking ramblings removed. Ian]



mabye not, but that last step is a doozy. i imagine it's more painful than all the ones leading up to it.
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Reply #36 posted 01/11/03 3:54pm

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AaronUnlimited said:


mabye not, but that last step is a doozy. i imagine it's more painful than all the ones leading up to it.


What's a doozy?
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Reply #37 posted 01/11/03 3:56pm

AaronUnlimited

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migente777 said:

[Snip. Offtopic attention-seeking ramblings removed. Ian]



hmmm. turning off your caps lock just might do the trick in people being better able to deal with you.

but don't kill yourself because of other people. it's the other people that suck and have the problems if this is why you're seriously contemplating it. maybe you should kill th... nevermind, i'm not gonna say anything. you seem highly suggestive. don't want this shit being subpoenaed in a murder trial
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Reply #38 posted 01/11/03 3:57pm

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Cloudbuster said:

AaronUnlimited said:


mabye not, but that last step is a doozy. i imagine it's more painful than all the ones leading up to it.


What's a doozy?



he said he was in pain. i imagine the final solution is pretty painful if he's talking about getting a gun. YOUCH!
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Reply #39 posted 01/11/03 4:00pm

AaronUnlimited

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migente777 said:

[Snip. Offtopic attention-seeking ramblings removed. Ian]



marry OJ or Robert Blake then
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Reply #40 posted 01/11/03 4:04pm

AaronUnlimited

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migente777 said:

[Snip. Offtopic attention-seeking ramblings removed. Ian]



well if you're really into hurting yourself, ask a few married couples about your options. i know several that'll tell you that if inflicting violent wounds on yourself is what you're into, then marriage is the route to go
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Reply #41 posted 01/11/03 4:07pm

AaronUnlimited

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migente777 said:

[Snip. Offtopic attention-seeking ramblings removed. Ian]



i used to think that too. as soon as i'd made my mind up on it, it got changed.
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Reply #42 posted 01/11/03 4:09pm

AaronUnlimited

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migente777 said:

[Snip. Offtopic attention-seeking ramblings removed. Ian]



i'm trying, but you keep dragging the whole website into it. this is MY thread about suicide. go back to your own if you don't want my comments.


but anyway, good luck and god speed in whatever it is you decide to do with your life and/or death.
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Reply #43 posted 01/11/03 4:15pm

AaronUnlimited

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migente777 said:

[Snip. Offtopic attention-seeking ramblings removed. Ian]



ah, but i'm not married biggrin
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Reply #44 posted 01/11/03 5:26pm

ian

Sorry about all the snips I know it makes the thread impossible to read. However I (and many others I suspect) have had quite enough of migente777's caps-locked off-topic attention seeking spamfest, which is why so many of the posts have been removed.
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Reply #45 posted 01/11/03 6:39pm

REDFEATHERS

AaronUnlimited said:

REDFEATHERS said:

AaronUnlimited said:

A second cousin of mine whom I haven't even seen in 10 years (he was about 20 now, I think), yet lives in the same small town as me, shot himself this morning. Yet, I really don't care. Does this make me a bad person? Uncaring?

As I said, I don't care that he killed himself. I'm struggling more with whether or not I should be upset about it. Does it make me selfish?



If you dont care, why ask the question in the first place...? rolleyes



if you read closesly (or not even that closely) what i've said is that i care if it makes me a bad/uncaring/selfish person. THAT is the question i asked.



Huh? You say 'Yet, I really don't care'.

He is dead, I said you ARE uncaring, yeah you ARE selfish in my opinion, but I didn't say you were a bad person.

As you posted it in the general discussion you will get ALL kinds of opinions regarding this.

If you don't care about your cousin being dead, why are you getting so hett up about peoples opinions of you, who you do not know and on a Prince website?

You strange person... rolleyes
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Reply #46 posted 01/11/03 6:41pm

REDFEATHERS

AaronUnlimited said:

REDFEATHERS said:

But I care when someone I do not know has killed themselves...

So yes, you ARE uncaring!!! Are you an animal lover who cares more about animals than people?


no. can't say i really give a rat's ass about most of the members of either group.

Do you not care WHY this person felt the need to kill himself?


wonder? yes. care? no
Is life so cheap to some people these days???


of course it is. the market's flooded.


Yeah with your kinda shallow thinking and comments, you are contributing to this very sad, cold world...
sigh

Maybe YOU are unhappy and this is your form of seeking attention and care from strangers, in a reverse pyschological way...
[This message was edited Sat Jan 11 18:46:41 PST 2003 by REDFEATHERS]
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Reply #47 posted 01/11/03 6:52pm

Paisley

AaronUnlimited said:

A second cousin of mine whom I haven't even seen in 10 years (he was about 20 now, I think), yet lives in the same small town as me, shot himself this morning. Yet, I really don't care. Does this make me a bad person? Uncaring?

As I said, I don't care that he killed himself. I'm struggling more with whether or not I should be upset about it. Does it make me selfish?

I know exactly how your feeling, my uncle killed himself in 1978 " stuck a gun in his mouth and shot himself" when I first heard the news I didn't know how to react, we didn't see each other alot cause he lived in a different state, I also felt kind of guilty cause It really didn't upset me that much.
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Reply #48 posted 01/11/03 7:28pm

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TRON said:

AaronUnlimited said:

A second cousin of mine whom I haven't even seen in 10 years (he was about 20 now, I think), yet lives in the same small town as me, shot himself this morning. Yet, I really don't care. Does this make me a bad person? Uncaring?

As I said, I don't care that he killed himself. I'm struggling more with whether or not I should be upset about it. Does it make me selfish?

This reminds me of an episode of Daria.


I remember that episode!! I miss Daria. I haven't seen it in ages!

Aaron, in this matter you are not being selfish or a bad person. You're being honest. For me, blood relation really doesn't mean much. My "family" is the one I've created for myself. Not to say I don't love my mom and dad, but I don't really get along or have much in common with my brother or the rest of my extended family. I haven't seen many of them in ages, and I imagine feeling the same way you do, were something like this to happen to me. And I'm obviously not a bad person, so there you have it. wink
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Reply #49 posted 01/11/03 7:57pm

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no
Peace and Love!
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Reply #50 posted 01/11/03 8:31pm

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Does it make you the least bit sad? Or is the news of his suicide equivalent to someone saying, "Bread tastes good!" confused Just trying to get feel... smile Not to be mistaken for copping a feel... razz

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What's going on w/ Migente777?? sad
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Reply #51 posted 01/11/03 8:48pm

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I would think that you would have some sort of feelings about his death; but you don't care AT ALL. I think that is sad Aaron. You may not be a bad person,I don't know you at all but in my opinion I think your lack of empathy is unsettling. Would it bother you if one of your neighbors that you see on a regular basis and talk to on occassion committed suicide? If it would,then I think the reason for not caring about your cousin is the fact that you have not seen him in a long time not because he's your cousin and you SHOULD care. Maybe for you it's because of not having any bond with him.
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Reply #52 posted 01/12/03 2:01am

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REDFEATHERS said:

AaronUnlimited said:

REDFEATHERS said:

But I care when someone I do not know has killed themselves...

So yes, you ARE uncaring!!! Are you an animal lover who cares more about animals than people?


no. can't say i really give a rat's ass about most of the members of either group.

Do you not care WHY this person felt the need to kill himself?


wonder? yes. care? no
Is life so cheap to some people these days???


of course it is. the market's flooded.


Yeah with your kinda shallow thinking and comments, you are contributing to this very sad, cold world...
sigh

Maybe YOU are unhappy and this is your form of seeking attention and care from strangers, in a reverse pyschological way...
[This message was edited Sat Jan 11 18:46:41 PST 2003 by REDFEATHERS]



rolleyes do you have a degree in psychology?
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Reply #53 posted 01/12/03 2:03am

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REDFEATHERS said:

AaronUnlimited said:

REDFEATHERS said:

AaronUnlimited said:

A second cousin of mine whom I haven't even seen in 10 years (he was about 20 now, I think), yet lives in the same small town as me, shot himself this morning. Yet, I really don't care. Does this make me a bad person? Uncaring?

As I said, I don't care that he killed himself. I'm struggling more with whether or not I should be upset about it. Does it make me selfish?



If you dont care, why ask the question in the first place...? rolleyes



if you read closesly (or not even that closely) what i've said is that i care if it makes me a bad/uncaring/selfish person. THAT is the question i asked.



Huh? You say 'Yet, I really don't care'.

He is dead, I said you ARE uncaring, yeah you ARE selfish in my opinion, but I didn't say you were a bad person.


thanks for your input

As you posted it in the general discussion you will get ALL kinds of opinions regarding this.


If you don't care about your cousin being dead, why are you getting so hett up about peoples opinions of you, who you do not know and on a Prince website?

You strange person... rolleyes[/quote]

i don't know what "hett up" means, but if you mean heated up, i'm not at all. if i was heated up, your little red feathers would be scorched by now.
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Reply #54 posted 01/12/03 2:05am

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CarrieMpls said:

TRON said:

AaronUnlimited said:

A second cousin of mine whom I haven't even seen in 10 years (he was about 20 now, I think), yet lives in the same small town as me, shot himself this morning. Yet, I really don't care. Does this make me a bad person? Uncaring?

As I said, I don't care that he killed himself. I'm struggling more with whether or not I should be upset about it. Does it make me selfish?

This reminds me of an episode of Daria.


I remember that episode!! I miss Daria. I haven't seen it in ages!

Aaron, in this matter you are not being selfish or a bad person. You're being honest. For me, blood relation really doesn't mean much. My "family" is the one I've created for myself. Not to say I don't love my mom and dad, but I don't really get along or have much in common with my brother or the rest of my extended family. I haven't seen many of them in ages, and I imagine feeling the same way you do, were something like this to happen to me. And I'm obviously not a bad person, so there you have it. wink


thanks
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Reply #55 posted 01/12/03 2:05am

Natasha

No,it doesn't make you a bad person. I would feel bad and all and offer condolences but why are you feeling Guilty?
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Reply #56 posted 01/12/03 2:06am

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CalhounSq said:

Does it make you the least bit sad? Or is the news of his suicide equivalent to someone saying, "Bread tastes good!" confused



pretty much, if it's someone i don't know, don't care for, and haven't seen in 10 years. i guess i'm just nor a mourner. i don't get too sad when people close to me die and i don't get that sad when i'm seperated from good friends. if i am, i get over it very quickly and move on and barely think back.
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Reply #57 posted 01/12/03 2:07am

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TongueBox said:

I would think that you would have some sort of feelings about his death; but you don't care AT ALL. I think that is sad Aaron. You may not be a bad person,I don't know you at all but in my opinion I think your lack of empathy is unsettling. Would it bother you if one of your neighbors that you see on a regular basis and talk to on occassion committed suicide? If it would,then I think the reason for not caring about your cousin is the fact that you have not seen him in a long time not because he's your cousin and you SHOULD care. Maybe for you it's because of not having any bond with him.



I don't ever talk to or see my neighbors, first of all. But your point remains the same and is well taken.
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Reply #58 posted 01/12/03 2:37am

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AaronUnlimited said:

CalhounSq said:

Does it make you the least bit sad? Or is the news of his suicide equivalent to someone saying, "Bread tastes good!" confused



pretty much, if it's someone i don't know, don't care for, and haven't seen in 10 years. i guess i'm just nor a mourner. i don't get too sad when people close to me die and i don't get that sad when i'm seperated from good friends. if i am, i get over it very quickly and move on and barely think back.


Well, I wouldn't say you're a "bad" person, but you're definitely "disconnected" IMO - sounds better than "uncaring", I think smile. I have a friend who (from your brief description) is the same way. He told me once, "I don't do funerals. I don't do crying & grieving." But he also had major issues when it came to anything involving his emotions, huge walls around that guy. I'm not saying this is your situation at all, it just reminds me of him...
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Reply #59 posted 01/12/03 6:46am

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But I care when someone I do not know has killed themselves...

So yes, you ARE uncaring!!! Are you an animal lover who cares more about animals than people? Do you not care WHY this person felt the need to kill himself? Is life so cheap to some people these days???

shake This is one twisted world we live in...
nod That's just Aaron though...Damn and I wish he would stop useing my Pic as his HIS! I feel the same as you ReD...I myself seen somebody kill themself when I was only 17 years old ...I the only witness, I did not even know this person yet I always wondered WHY... Was there nobody who understood? Did anybody know how this person felt? If NOT why? Did not anybody even care sad
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