johnart said: A toast to the new winner.
http://vimeo.com/7677091 The "new winner" didn't have NOTHIN' on you... A working class Hero is something to be ~ Lennon | |
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John, if you don't mind my asking, what made you start and stop doing drag? [Edited 11/17/09 21:29pm] Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.” | |
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WERQ!!!!
Hot. So hot. [...i think i can, i think i can, i think i can...] | |
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Lammastide said: John, if you don't mind my asking, what made you start and stop doing drag?
[Edited 11/17/09 21:29pm] What made me start: I went to school for theatre. I went to school in NYC and was into the whole androgyny thing. Not full drag, but makeup and ambiguous or mixed clothing. Semi club-kiddish. Then I got a job and worked in night clubs as a Cigarette Girl. When I moved back to NJ from NYC, it just evolved from there. To me, personally my drag was always all about theatre. Miss D. was a role I played the same as if I were in a play that evening. When I started, my mom was very concerned that I might want to become a woman. She would've came around if that had been the case, but lawd she was nervous for a minute. What made me stop: A combination of moving to a remote location (our first home was up in the mountains of Northeast PA, not a big drag scene there ) and age. For me, Miss D. was a sexy illusion and while I will age as gracefully as possible (and glad and grateful to be here), Miss D's ageing was something I could totally control. It's enough seeing one's own face age in the mirror. I don't need to do it for two people. | |
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well...i couldn't not post, so i'll just say...
i salute your fearlessness my friend .. yeah.. () () | |
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SirPsycho said: well...i couldn't not post, so i'll just say...
i salute your fearlessness my friend .. yeah.. () () why u in the box?? | |
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johnart said: SirPsycho said: well...i couldn't not post, so i'll just say...
i salute your fearlessness my friend .. yeah.. () () why u in the box?? cuz your more convincing as a woman than i'd thought youd be i thought youd be sloppy wit it like the ones i see in the city (no diss) | |
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SirPsycho said: johnart said: why u in the box?? cuz your more convincing as a woman than i'd thought youd be i thought youd be sloppy wit it like the ones i see in the city (no diss) "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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SirPsycho said: johnart said: why u in the box?? cuz your more convincing as a woman than i'd thought youd be i thought youd be sloppy wit it like the ones i see in the city (no diss) Nah. I took that shit serious when I did it. I know it sounds like vanity, but since my angle wasn't really comedic...if I didn't think I was at least slightly convincing I wouldn't have done it. | |
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johnart said: SirPsycho said: cuz your more convincing as a woman than i'd thought youd be i thought youd be sloppy wit it like the ones i see in the city (no diss) Nah. I took that shit serious when I did it. I know it sounds like vanity, but since my angle wasn't really comedic...if I didn't think I was at least slightly convincing I wouldn't have done it. i can respect that... even if it does frighten me a lil () | |
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bboy87 said: ma there should be COURSES on your timing and use of gifs | |
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SirPsycho said: johnart said: Nah. I took that shit serious when I did it. I know it sounds like vanity, but since my angle wasn't really comedic...if I didn't think I was at least slightly convincing I wouldn't have done it. i can respect that... even if it does frighten me a lil () I will take your fright as a compliment in it's highest form. | |
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johnart said: SirPsycho said: i can respect that... even if it does frighten me a lil () I will take your fright as a compliment in it's highest form. ...as well you should i'm equally frightened of supa at times and i consider him a flamboyant big brother | |
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johnart said: Lammastide said: John, if you don't mind my asking, what made you start and stop doing drag?
[Edited 11/17/09 21:29pm] What made me start: I went to school for theatre. I went to school in NYC and was into the whole androgyny thing. Not full drag, but makeup and ambiguous or mixed clothing. Semi club-kiddish. Then I got a job and worked in night clubs as a Cigarette Girl. When I moved back to NJ from NYC, it just evolved from there. To me, personally my drag was always all about theatre. Miss D. was a role I played the same as if I were in a play that evening. When I started, my mom was very concerned that I might want to become a woman. She would've came around if that had been the case, but lawd she was nervous for a minute. What made me stop: A combination of moving to a remote location (our first home was up in the mountains of Northeast PA, not a big drag scene there ) and age. For me, Miss D. was a sexy illusion and while I will age as gracefully as possible (and glad and grateful to be here), Miss D's ageing was something I could totally control. It's enough seeing one's own face age in the mirror. I don't need to do it for two people. Good morning! Well, honey, I thought you looked fabulous! And the pix you post on here now are very handsome! You are aging just fine... "Love Hurts. Your lies, they cut me. Now your words don't mean a thing. I don't give a damn if you ever loved me..." -Cher, "Woman's World" | |
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johnart said: Lammastide said: John, if you don't mind my asking, what made you start and stop doing drag?
[Edited 11/17/09 21:29pm] What made me start: I went to school for theatre. I went to school in NYC and was into the whole androgyny thing. Not full drag, but makeup and ambiguous or mixed clothing. Semi club-kiddish. Then I got a job and worked in night clubs as a Cigarette Girl. When I moved back to NJ from NYC, it just evolved from there. To me, personally my drag was always all about theatre. Miss D. was a role I played the same as if I were in a play that evening. When I started, my mom was very concerned that I might want to become a woman. She would've came around if that had been the case, but lawd she was nervous for a minute. What made me stop: A combination of moving to a remote location (our first home was up in the mountains of Northeast PA, not a big drag scene there ) and age. For me, Miss D. was a sexy illusion and while I will age as gracefully as possible (and glad and grateful to be here), Miss D's ageing was something I could totally control. It's enough seeing one's own face age in the mirror. I don't need to do it for two people. interesting. From what I can gather, you're a sexy dude in your everyday life and, genetics aside, a good part of it likely is presentation/face/glamour (in its oldest, truest sense). In view of that and your paintings and your time doing Miss D., it's so cool to see how aesthetically sensitive people are that way throughout varied parts of their life. Do I make sense? I guess I mean: At least for many folk being an artist isn't just what they occasionally do; it's what they are. Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.” | |
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Lammastide said: johnart said: What made me start: I went to school for theatre. I went to school in NYC and was into the whole androgyny thing. Not full drag, but makeup and ambiguous or mixed clothing. Semi club-kiddish. Then I got a job and worked in night clubs as a Cigarette Girl. When I moved back to NJ from NYC, it just evolved from there. To me, personally my drag was always all about theatre. Miss D. was a role I played the same as if I were in a play that evening. When I started, my mom was very concerned that I might want to become a woman. She would've came around if that had been the case, but lawd she was nervous for a minute. What made me stop: A combination of moving to a remote location (our first home was up in the mountains of Northeast PA, not a big drag scene there ) and age. For me, Miss D. was a sexy illusion and while I will age as gracefully as possible (and glad and grateful to be here), Miss D's ageing was something I could totally control. It's enough seeing one's own face age in the mirror. I don't need to do it for two people. interesting. From what I can gather, you're a sexy dude in your everyday life and, genetics aside, a good part of it likely is presentation/face/glamour (in its oldest, truest sense). In view of that and your paintings and your time doing Miss D., it's so cool to see how aesthetically sensitive people are that way throughout varied parts of their life. Do I make sense? I guess I mean: At least for many folk being an artist isn't just what they occasionally do; it's what they are. I agree that artists are rather than do. I've always done something creative. The few times I've worked as something not (food, retail) I've been fairly miserable. And being a sexy dude in everyday life. Like most folk I guess, some days I feel like I am. You know, you look in the mirror and say "Hey, not half bad. You're ok." (usually the days I photowhore ) And other days it's like "Lawd, time is catching up, but at least I'm here." I haven't done drag since probably '04-'05. We had a gallery (in a very conservative little town, I might add) and we threw a Halloween party as opening reception for an Erotic Art Show. I showed up in drag. This was my last time: | |
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chocolate1 said: johnart said: What made me start: I went to school for theatre. I went to school in NYC and was into the whole androgyny thing. Not full drag, but makeup and ambiguous or mixed clothing. Semi club-kiddish. Then I got a job and worked in night clubs as a Cigarette Girl. When I moved back to NJ from NYC, it just evolved from there. To me, personally my drag was always all about theatre. Miss D. was a role I played the same as if I were in a play that evening. When I started, my mom was very concerned that I might want to become a woman. She would've came around if that had been the case, but lawd she was nervous for a minute. What made me stop: A combination of moving to a remote location (our first home was up in the mountains of Northeast PA, not a big drag scene there ) and age. For me, Miss D. was a sexy illusion and while I will age as gracefully as possible (and glad and grateful to be here), Miss D's ageing was something I could totally control. It's enough seeing one's own face age in the mirror. I don't need to do it for two people. Good morning! Well, honey, I thought you looked fabulous! And the pix you post on here now are very handsome! You are aging just fine... Too sweet. | |
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WORKKKKK!!!!!
Yes!!! You were going IN!!!!! I'm a huge fan of La India and now....even more....of you. MyeternalgrattitudetoPhil&Val.Herman said "We want sweaty truckers at the truck stop! We want cigar puffing men that look like they wanna beat the living daylights out of us" Val"sporking is spooning with benefits" | |
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MIGUELGOMEZ said: WORKKKKK!!!!!
Yes!!! You were going IN!!!!! I'm a huge fan of La India and now....even more....of you. We need to work together to set up a Gascot West Coast Art Tour!! A working class Hero is something to be ~ Lennon | |
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MIGUELGOMEZ said: WORKKKKK!!!!!
Yes!!! You were going IN!!!!! I'm a huge fan of La India and now....even more....of you. I need to squeeze you!!!!! | |
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RenHoek said: MIGUELGOMEZ said: WORKKKKK!!!!!
Yes!!! You were going IN!!!!! I'm a huge fan of La India and now....even more....of you. We need to work together to set up a Gascot West Coast Art Tour!! Y'all can come East too. I don't care, we need to drink and be merry together. | |
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Finally able to watch them.
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JustErin said: Finally able to watch them.
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johnart said: RenHoek said: We need to work together to set up a Gascot West Coast Art Tour!! Y'all can come East too. I don't care, we need to drink and be merry together. RenHoek can be merry.....and I'll be Mary. MyeternalgrattitudetoPhil&Val.Herman said "We want sweaty truckers at the truck stop! We want cigar puffing men that look like they wanna beat the living daylights out of us" Val"sporking is spooning with benefits" | |
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did you ever snatch a wig clear off someone's head? !
see 0:51 12/05/2011
P*$$y so bad, if u throw it into da air, it would turn into sunshine!!! | |
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matthewgrant said: did you ever snatch a wig clear off someone's head? !
see 0:51 OMFG!!! Never Never Never. A) If a bitch wanted my hair off she'd have to scalp me. I pinned for FILTH! B) That graceless wig-snatcher woulda had bits of my tiara stuck in her damn teeth. That was just classless. | |
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johnart said: matthewgrant said: did you ever snatch a wig clear off someone's head? !
see 0:51 OMFG!!! Never Never Never. A) If a bitch wanted my hair off she'd have to scalp me. I pinned for FILTH! B) That graceless wig-snatcher woulda had bits of my tiara stuck in her damn teeth. That was just classless. oh yeah I remember you tell us how you pinned. I LOVE everyone's reactions in that video and how you get a clear view of the queen's face, when they slow it down as she's coming up to get herself a hand full [Edited 11/19/09 20:12pm] 12/05/2011
P*$$y so bad, if u throw it into da air, it would turn into sunshine!!! | |
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That was awesome! I've seen some truly terrible drag acts on my travels (I won't bore with the details, but a 60 year old Spanish Queen losing her false teeth as she attempted Madonna's Vogue ranks right up there as the best/worst), however the hips on Video 1 and the ability to keep right on the beat rank you right up there in the "best" category. Loved it.
Shame you had so much trouble uploading them, but well worth the effort. I have to ask about the money - is that a tradition for the outgoing Miss as she steps aside? Oh, and anymore to share? | |
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thebumpsquad said: That was awesome! I've seen some truly terrible drag acts on my travels (I won't bore with the details, but a 60 year old Spanish Queen losing her false teeth as she attempted Madonna's Vogue ranks right up there as the best/worst), however the hips on Video 1 and the ability to keep right on the beat rank you right up there in the "best" category. Loved it.
Shame you had so much trouble uploading them, but well worth the effort. I have to ask about the money - is that a tradition for the outgoing Miss as she steps aside? Oh, and anymore to share? Thank you. The times I wasn't accepting money (the movie rehearsal one aside) it was because I was competing and audiences are not allowed to tip contestants. Once I had a few crowns I actually did this as a part time "job". A good queen can make a bit of cash if the crowd digs her. While for the most part people tip with singles, $5's, $10's or even an occasional $20 (in the case of an outgoing Miss) are not unheard of. And yes. There's 2 more performances I haven't ripped/trimmed yet. PS. You mentioned my ability to keep with the beat. Did anyone notice they skipped my music on that performance?? [Edited 11/19/09 21:29pm] | |
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