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Reply #30 posted 11/15/09 4:22pm

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No, you have a dick, so just go to a corner and cry that out until your shirt is wet with your tears and boogies run over your lips... don't let anyone see you. Besides, she may still be able to kick you ass. lol

or I can just get my play sista to whoop that ass lol

Too late, naw man, just make her take you out to a movie or buy you a drink. I'm sure she would love to see you again. fallinluv
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Reply #31 posted 11/15/09 4:44pm

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I'm completely with you on this. I was through with Mike Tyson after
he bit Evander Holyfield's ear off and i was rooting for Tyson. Then
dude tells people he wants to eat their children. I don't understand why
Robin was painted as just someone who wanted his money and a bitch.
Like you said Don King actually was the one who really ruined this guy.
Let's not sit here and pretend this guy wasn't abusive to her. Even if Robin
was somewhat of a bitch,there was no excuse for him to abuse her.
Like J.Anthony Brown stated if you see Mike Tyson coming one way,your
ass better take a left and go the other way.

highfive And the KILLIN part to me, is that a lot of Mike's distrust of Robin was instigated BY Don King whispering in Mike's ear after Robin and her mother were, rightfully, questioning Don and his entourage about where the money was going. Regardless of their motivations, it was obvious to them that something wasn't right. Don then pitted Mike against Robin to deflect from the dirt he was doing and his tricks worked like a muhfucka. But somehow he's largely exempt from the hate thrown Robin's way. confused


Ding, ding....correct answer.

At least that's the way I heard it went down. It was Don King who initially villified Robin Givens in the eyes of Mike and the public to draw attention away from the fact that he was robbing Mike blind. Mike's own inherent misogyny seems to me like something King used to his advantage.

Independent of the things said about her by King and others, I've never seen or heard anything from her personally that would cause me to label her a gold digging b*tch.
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Reply #32 posted 11/15/09 4:45pm

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paintedlady said:

bboy87 said:


or I can just get my play sista to whoop that ass lol

Too late, naw man, just make her take you out to a movie or buy you a drink. I'm sure she would love to see you again. fallinluv

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Reply #33 posted 11/15/09 5:56pm

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SCNDLS said:

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I don't think that at all. Don't get it twisted. rolleyes

I do think that Mike didn't understand the game like he should have. In "happier" times, Mike's situation with Robin in the 1980's was about the same as let say Lamar & Khloe is in the 2000's.

You said that it "does explain why Mike looked at Robin more like a "ho" than a "wife" when he did hit her." and I'm saying that doesn't explain a gatdamn thing. There's no justificatin for him, one of the most powerful punchers of ALL time, to lay his hands on her, even if she was a golddigger, it's not like she invented that pursuit.

And no it ain't the same as Khloe and Lamar in my opinion because

1. Robin had a thriving, budding career as an actress and was pursuing a college education BEFORE she met Mike, while Khloe was just leeching off Kim's infamy.

2. Lamar does not make his living beating grown ass, muscle bound men to a pulp, like Mike did. Therefore, him hitting 110 lb Robin ain't nothing but assault with a deadly weapon.

3. Lamar married Khloe after knowing her 4 weeks and knowing full well she been trynna catch her an athlete all year, so he's EXTRA stupid. Mike and Robin dated a year before marrying, so they both had an inkling and a clue of what the fuck they were dealing with.
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My EXACT quotes: But Robin AND her mother did spend a lot of Mike's money behind his back during the marriage. It's doesn't excuse him for hitting her. But it does explain why Mike looked at Robin more like a "ho" than a "wife" when he did hit her.

Right THERE^ I did acknowledge that it wasn't an excuse for Mike to hit Robin.

All I'm saying is that Mike felt like the victim of lies, deceits, & hurts before Robin did. No, she never hurt him physically. But she was definitely hurting him psychological AND financially during their marriage. Mike told Oprah the real story the first time out: Mike & Robin were hurting each other, NOT all one-sided with Robin promoting Mike as THE only villain for many years after the fact.


As for the Lamar & Khloe situation, I have no doubts that there is real love AND lust between them. But after reading about that post wedding pre-nup agreement with the the specifics that only favors Khloe, I say that there is some Robin Givens-like motives in the works.

My opinion of course.
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Reply #34 posted 11/15/09 6:35pm

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1. Oprah DID NOT laugh when Tyson said he wanted to sock Robin during the now infamous Barbara Walters interview. The Audience laughed.

2. Tyson DID NOT go on Oprah first. Robin Givens was on the show a couple of years ago and aired all of the details of that crazy marriage, and whether the details were true or not, Tyson came out looking worse than he already did. While there is not excuse to hit a woman, Givens made herself look like a complete saint while Tyson looked like the complete villian. Tyson nor his camp responded to Robins appearance on the show. Tyson appeared a few weeks ago for the first time on Oprah and he gave his side. Givens then responded to the audience's laughter, and Oprah's failure to chastize them for laughing.

3. Before anyone bring it up, yes Oprah was going to have BeBe Winans on her show and not Chris Brown, but there is a WORLD of difference between Winans situation and Chris Brown's and Bebe should not even be in the same category as Chris.
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Reply #35 posted 11/15/09 6:43pm

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TonyVanDam said:

SCNDLS said:


You said that it "does explain why Mike looked at Robin more like a "ho" than a "wife" when he did hit her." and I'm saying that doesn't explain a gatdamn thing. There's no justificatin for him, one of the most powerful punchers of ALL time, to lay his hands on her, even if she was a golddigger, it's not like she invented that pursuit.

And no it ain't the same as Khloe and Lamar in my opinion because

1. Robin had a thriving, budding career as an actress and was pursuing a college education BEFORE she met Mike, while Khloe was just leeching off Kim's infamy.

2. Lamar does not make his living beating grown ass, muscle bound men to a pulp, like Mike did. Therefore, him hitting 110 lb Robin ain't nothing but assault with a deadly weapon.

3. Lamar married Khloe after knowing her 4 weeks and knowing full well she been trynna catch her an athlete all year, so he's EXTRA stupid. Mike and Robin dated a year before marrying, so they both had an inkling and a clue of what the fuck they were dealing with.
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My EXACT quotes: But Robin AND her mother did spend a lot of Mike's money behind his back during the marriage. It's doesn't excuse him for hitting her. But it does explain why Mike looked at Robin more like a "ho" than a "wife" when he did hit her.

Right THERE^ I did acknowledge that it wasn't an excuse for Mike to hit Robin.

All I'm saying is that Mike felt like the victim of lies, deceits, & hurts before Robin did. No, she never hurt him physically. But she was definitely hurting him psychological AND financially during their marriage. Mike told Oprah the real story the first time out: Mike & Robin were hurting each other, NOT all one-sided with Robin promoting Mike as THE only villain for many years after the fact.


As for the Lamar & Khloe situation, I have no doubts that there is real love AND lust between them. But after reading about that post wedding pre-nup agreement with the the specifics that only favors Khloe, I say that there is some Robin Givens-like motives in the works.

My opinion of course.

As far as I'm concerned the fact that you used the word "But . . . " after that initial statement is tantamount to you saying you think he DID have grounds to hit her. confused
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Reply #36 posted 11/15/09 6:53pm

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TonyVanDam said:

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rolleyes Lot's of people, men and women spend their spouse's money, but if you think that's enough to make somebody a "ho" rather than a "wife" which justifies her getting hit . . . wow. confused


I don't think that at all. Don't get it twisted. rolleyes

I do think that Mike didn't understand the game like he should have. In "happier" times, Mike's situation with Robin in the 1980's was about the same as let say Lamar & Khloe is in the 2000's.


No twisting necessary, what you said was dumb.
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Reply #37 posted 11/15/09 6:54pm

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I'd hit her...but not with my fists...
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Reply #38 posted 11/15/09 7:07pm

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SCNDLS said:

TonyVanDam said:



My EXACT quotes: But Robin AND her mother did spend a lot of Mike's money behind his back during the marriage. It's doesn't excuse him for hitting her. But it does explain why Mike looked at Robin more like a "ho" than a "wife" when he did hit her.

Right THERE^ I did acknowledge that it wasn't an excuse for Mike to hit Robin.

All I'm saying is that Mike felt like the victim of lies, deceits, & hurts before Robin did. No, she never hurt him physically. But she was definitely hurting him psychological AND financially during their marriage. Mike told Oprah the real story the first time out: Mike & Robin were hurting each other, NOT all one-sided with Robin promoting Mike as THE only villain for many years after the fact.


As for the Lamar & Khloe situation, I have no doubts that there is real love AND lust between them. But after reading about that post wedding pre-nup agreement with the the specifics that only favors Khloe, I say that there is some Robin Givens-like motives in the works.

My opinion of course.

As far as I'm concerned the fact that you used the word "But . . . " after that initial statement is tantamount to you saying you think he DID have grounds to hit her. confused


He could have taken the peaceful approach and filed a divorce without hit her at all. That much we both can agree on.

But what I can never understand is how could anyone get involve in any kind of a relationship with a man like Mike Tyson knowing beforehand of the kind of psychological baggages that he was carrying long before or during his career in boxing? If a woman is going to look for a man to take advantage of, you would this that Mike would be THE very wrong choice of a man to use. Seriously.
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Reply #39 posted 11/15/09 7:10pm

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PunkMistress said:

TonyVanDam said:



I don't think that at all. Don't get it twisted. rolleyes

I do think that Mike didn't understand the game like he should have. In "happier" times, Mike's situation with Robin in the 1980's was about the same as let say Lamar & Khloe is in the 2000's.


No twisting necessary, what you said was dumb.


.....in your opinion. But I take it that you didn't bother to read any of my other posts in this thread beside THAT^ one. rolleyes

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Reply #40 posted 11/15/09 7:16pm

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TonyVanDam said:

SCNDLS said:


As far as I'm concerned the fact that you used the word "But . . . " after that initial statement is tantamount to you saying you think he DID have grounds to hit her. confused


He could have taken the peaceful approach and filed a divorce without hit her at all. That much we both can agree on.

But what I can never understand is how could anyone get involve in any kind of a relationship with a man like Mike Tyson knowing beforehand of the kind of psychological baggages that he was carrying long before or during his career in boxing? If a woman is going to look for a man to take advantage of, you would this that Mike would be THE very wrong choice of a man to use. Seriously.

When she met him it's not like everyone knew dude was crazy and had urshers. Aside from his sad upbringing as far as I recall, he didn't have any incidents outside the ring or anything that was public knowledge. So maybe she thought his simple ass was sweet and she could save him from those around him. shrug

I always thought there was genuine affection between them at first and that others got into it and stirred shit up. Plus, his mental issues prolly came all the way out after they got married and he realized he couldn't control her. Didn't she say that he caused her miscarriage by beating her up? confused
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Reply #41 posted 11/15/09 7:41pm

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bboy87 said:

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Too late, naw man, just make her take you out to a movie or buy you a drink. I'm sure she would love to see you again. fallinluv

falloff "Wanna go for burgers, boo?" lol

I didn't get bullied by girls in school (but my older brother did,to the point where my mom had to go up to the school lol ), They all wanted to be my friend lol

hmmm So your brother was the cute one eh?
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Reply #42 posted 11/15/09 8:09pm

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paintedlady said:

bboy87 said:


falloff "Wanna go for burgers, boo?" lol

I didn't get bullied by girls in school (but my older brother did,to the point where my mom had to go up to the school lol ), They all wanted to be my friend lol

hmmm So your brother was the cute one eh?

Nope, that muthafucka was the sneaky troublemaker lol
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Reply #43 posted 11/15/09 8:11pm

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bboy87 said:

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hmmm So your brother was the cute one eh?

Nope, that muthafucka was the sneaky troublemaker lol


Yup, I thought so. lol
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Reply #44 posted 11/15/09 8:16pm

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SCNDLS said:

TonyVanDam said:



He could have taken the peaceful approach and filed a divorce without hit her at all. That much we both can agree on.

But what I can never understand is how could anyone get involve in any kind of a relationship with a man like Mike Tyson knowing beforehand of the kind of psychological baggages that he was carrying long before or during his career in boxing? If a woman is going to look for a man to take advantage of, you would this that Mike would be THE very wrong choice of a man to use. Seriously.

When she met him it's not like everyone knew dude was crazy and had urshers. Aside from his sad upbringing as far as I recall, he didn't have any incidents outside the ring or anything that was public knowledge. So maybe she thought his simple ass was sweet and she could save him from those around him. shrug

I always thought there was genuine affection between them at first and that others got into it and stirred shit up. Plus, his mental issues prolly came all the way out after they got married and he realized he couldn't control her. Didn't she say that he caused her miscarriage by beating her up? confused


I have no idea. And I don't recall that info ever being release to the public. But it was reported to the public that Mike was known to punch some holes in the walls.
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Reply #45 posted 11/15/09 8:35pm

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TonyVanDam said:

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When she met him it's not like everyone knew dude was crazy and had urshers. Aside from his sad upbringing as far as I recall, he didn't have any incidents outside the ring or anything that was public knowledge. So maybe she thought his simple ass was sweet and she could save him from those around him. shrug

I always thought there was genuine affection between them at first and that others got into it and stirred shit up. Plus, his mental issues prolly came all the way out after they got married and he realized he couldn't control her. Didn't she say that he caused her miscarriage by beating her up? confused


I have no idea. And I don't recall that info ever being release to the public. But it was reported to the public that Mike was known to punch some holes in the walls.

hmmm For some reason I think she said that in the Barbara Walters interview, but I know she's said that at some point. That nucca was/is CRAZAY! disbelief
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Reply #46 posted 11/15/09 9:43pm

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shocked

Ok.. you know what, I just don't need to up in here. sigh Sorry Harlepolis, ya'll should continue. Nevermind my silly anti-woman beater rants. nuts


peace

By the shocked you posted, I hope you're not confusing my belief that she's not likable with the suggestion that it's ok for a man to abuse an unlikable woman. I'm not saying that. Abuse is wrong wherever it occurs, regardless of gender.
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Reply #47 posted 11/15/09 10:50pm

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roodboi said:

I'd hit her...but not with my fists...


Yeah Robin still sexy as a mutha.
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Reply #48 posted 11/15/09 11:09pm

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I'm not sayin' he shoulda hit her....but I understand. confused
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Reply #49 posted 11/16/09 4:43am

Harlepolis

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sigh

Robin married a man that abused her physically. Signs may have been there beforehand, but the signs were ignored on both their parts.

So she stood up for herself and that made her unpopular because our man Mike was our hero. Our black Superman, an undefeated champion who we loved. Shame on Robin for speaking up for herself, bitch should keep her mouth shut and take her abuse like a good wife should. Teach her a good lesson for talking shit about our perfect hero Mike.

DAMN. disbelief Disingenuous or not if he hated the way she spoke to him or treated him, he always could walk away, seek counsel or leave her. Anything other that beat her ass, NO ONE deserves that, least of all someone less than 1/2 the size of their spouse.

What the fuck is wrong with you people up in this thread? whofarted If your spouse were to beat your ass then tell me what you would do? Would you keep our ass quiet? Would you allow the beatings to continue? Would you like people calling you an opportunist because your spouse had more money if you spoke up on it?

He beat her ass because she fine as hell and he was possessive. He loved her dearly, but he couldn't handle her fame and the attention she received.

Let the women write a book, hell let her make a movie, play, heck shout it from the highest mountain, if that makes her a bitch then KUDOS to her for getting away from her abuser.

clapping clapping clapping clapping clapping clapping

Its a sad day when women and men say its OK for any woman to get her ass beat by a man. rose


Wait a minute, nobody in this threat even remotely hinted that.

We're only voicing our distrust of the woman, thats ALL there is to it.
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Reply #50 posted 11/16/09 6:21am

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ThreadBare said:

paintedlady said:

shocked

Ok.. you know what, I just don't need to up in here. sigh Sorry Harlepolis, ya'll should continue. Nevermind my silly anti-woman beater rants. nuts


peace

By the shocked you posted, I hope you're not confusing my belief that she's not likable with the suggestion that it's ok for a man to abuse an unlikable woman. I'm not saying that. Abuse is wrong wherever it occurs, regardless of gender.

whew OK. Thanks for the clarification, because it read that way to me. Its good to see that his behavior isn't cool to you. IMO if a man beats his wife, then he deserves all his accounts to be emptied if he doesn't serve jail time. I like Mike too, but no woman deserves that.
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Reply #51 posted 11/16/09 6:36am

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Harlepolis said:

paintedlady said:

sigh

Robin married a man that abused her physically. Signs may have been there beforehand, but the signs were ignored on both their parts.

So she stood up for herself and that made her unpopular because our man Mike was our hero. Our black Superman, an undefeated champion who we loved. Shame on Robin for speaking up for herself, bitch should keep her mouth shut and take her abuse like a good wife should. Teach her a good lesson for talking shit about our perfect hero Mike.

DAMN. disbelief Disingenuous or not if he hated the way she spoke to him or treated him, he always could walk away, seek counsel or leave her. Anything other that beat her ass, NO ONE deserves that, least of all someone less than 1/2 the size of their spouse.

What the fuck is wrong with you people up in this thread? whofarted If your spouse were to beat your ass then tell me what you would do? Would you keep our ass quiet? Would you allow the beatings to continue? Would you like people calling you an opportunist because your spouse had more money if you spoke up on it?

He beat her ass because she fine as hell and he was possessive. He loved her dearly, but he couldn't handle her fame and the attention she received.

Let the women write a book, hell let her make a movie, play, heck shout it from the highest mountain, if that makes her a bitch then KUDOS to her for getting away from her abuser.

clapping clapping clapping clapping clapping clapping

Its a sad day when women and men say its OK for any woman to get her ass beat by a man. rose


Wait a minute, nobody in this threat even remotely hinted that.

We're only voicing our distrust of the woman, thats ALL there is to it.


Unfortunately, that distrust of her story (I think she got her azz beat BTW) would lead some her to feel that Mike is justified in his action. You may not say it but some might imply that Mike should have treated her in any way that was to his liking because she was just a money grubbing whore.

But I see it this way, many athletes and celebs show off their money. They ride in fancy cars, wear expensive clothes and basically buy the attention of any woman they want attention from.
So these men attract golddiggers by default. Only a golddigger is impressed by that mess and seeks men specifically like that. So if Mike got a golddigger, its simply because he advertised himself in a way were the golddiggers would flock to him.

Yes, most rich men will attract all women, but Mike had extravagant spending habits that would lead me to believe he bought love and never looked for a woman of good character. Instead he chose the hottest piece of ass and literally bought it, should we expect an expensive piece of ass to act any different?
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Reply #52 posted 11/16/09 6:48am

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Wait a minute, nobody in this threat even remotely hinted that.

We're only voicing our distrust of the woman, thats ALL there is to it.


Unfortunately, that distrust of her story (I think she got her azz beat BTW) would lead some her to feel that Mike is justified in his action. You may not say it but some might imply that Mike should have treated her in any way that was to his liking because she was just a money grubbing whore.

But I see it this way, many athletes and celebs show off their money. They ride in fancy cars, wear expensive clothes and basically buy the attention of any woman they want attention from.
So these men attract golddiggers by default. Only a golddigger is impressed by that mess and seeks men specifically like that. So if Mike got a golddigger, its simply because he advertised himself in a way were the golddiggers would flock to him.

Yes, most rich men will attract all women, but Mike had extravagant spending habits that would lead me to believe he bought love and never looked for a woman of good character. Instead he chose the hottest piece of ass and literally bought it, should we expect an expensive piece of ass to act any different?


Thank you for proving my point.

Also - I said earlier that Mike is trying to move on for the sake of hisself and his children,,,,,which indicate that he was in the wrong as well.
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Reply #53 posted 11/16/09 6:57am

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I can't stand what this woman did 2 Tyson.....but that said,
Robin..... call me.
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Reply #54 posted 11/16/09 7:05am

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Unfortunately, that distrust of her story (I think she got her azz beat BTW) would lead some her to feel that Mike is justified in his action. You may not say it but some might imply that Mike should have treated her in any way that was to his liking because she was just a money grubbing whore.

But I see it this way, many athletes and celebs show off their money. They ride in fancy cars, wear expensive clothes and basically buy the attention of any woman they want attention from.
So these men attract golddiggers by default. Only a golddigger is impressed by that mess and seeks men specifically like that. So if Mike got a golddigger, its simply because he advertised himself in a way were the golddiggers would flock to him.

Yes, most rich men will attract all women, but Mike had extravagant spending habits that would lead me to believe he bought love and never looked for a woman of good character. Instead he chose the hottest piece of ass and literally bought it, should we expect an expensive piece of ass to act any different?


Thank you for proving my point.

Also - I said earlier that Mike is trying to move on for the sake of hisself and his children,,,,,which indicate that he was in the wrong as well.

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It is in Robin's nature to do what she does. Her needing to do anything for Mike to move on and take care of his kids is not her problem.
He knew what she was when he married her. He got what he asked for. We can't be mad at Robin for Mike's bad decision in choosing a woman like her and treating her poorly. Hey he got what he paid for. lol

I think Mike needs to move on and stop giving any attention to what ever she says or does. IMHO.

Uh hello Mike, stop whining, it happened a long time ago. Yes that bitch took your money, but that's what you get for choosing her. Instead you should have invested your money instead of allowing people to spend it for you and made better choices, ya didn't. stfu
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Reply #55 posted 11/16/09 7:05am

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Graycap23 said:

I can't stand what this woman did 2 Tyson.....but that said,
Robin..... call me.

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Reply #56 posted 11/16/09 3:09pm

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I can't stand what this woman did 2 Tyson.....but that said,
Robin..... call me.



yeah, she still fine lol
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Reply #57 posted 11/17/09 6:44am

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Graycap23 said:

I can't stand what this woman did 2 Tyson.....but that said,
Robin..... call me.



yeah, she still fine lol

4 sho.
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Reply #58 posted 11/18/09 4:20pm

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And y'all aint even post pics?






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Reply #59 posted 11/18/09 4:47pm

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I remember one of the first times I met her she came to the club I worked at. It was a slow night so I was just standing around talking to the blackjack dealer and this lady walked up and asked if it was real gambling. I told her no just for fun. So she starts chatting with me and after awhile I catch a glimpse of the tv over her shoulder and I realize they're playing Boomerang. Then the lady says something to me and when I look back at her I realize it's Robin and she was as nonchalant as she could be. The shocking part is that she had no makeup on and was without her weave and was wearing her hair pulled back in a 2 inch pony tail like it was right. eek But she was still gorgeous and nice as could be.
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