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Reply #90 posted 11/15/09 12:43pm

TonyVanDam

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The Meters -- Cissy Strut
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Reply #91 posted 11/15/09 3:36pm

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Mach said:

mcmeekle said:


Who reports the most? I bet some folks have that button on speed-dial! smile

I promise I wont tell anyone else! nod


I am 100% certian I report far more then Carrie biggrin

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Rubbish answer!

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Reply #92 posted 11/15/09 5:50pm

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Don't be a puss-puss
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Reply #93 posted 11/15/09 6:23pm

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TonyVanDam said:

The Meters -- Cissy Strut


That's the perfect way to make amends with my friend. lol
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Reply #94 posted 11/15/09 9:54pm

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vainandy said:



I find it rediculous that we call ourselves "girl". I don't mind "bitch" or "whore" because a man can definately be a bitch because I see "bitch" as an attitude and Lord knows I'm a whore. But "girl" is just rediculous. That's like you want to be the opposite sex which is the last thing I want to be.

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Reply #95 posted 11/16/09 10:34am

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heartbeatocean said:

Score two points. lol

Honey, that's a jackpot! biggrin lol clapping
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Reply #96 posted 11/16/09 10:35am

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SUPRMAN said:

heartbeatocean said:

With the wonderful help from all of you, I replied to my friend with the following academic treatise:

I think I was aware of the connotations of the word when I used it. As a feminist and student of cultural semiotics, I unveiled it with liberty considering the word sissy expressed perfectly what I was trying to say. It contained a certain tongue-in-cheekness, yes, but in the range of derogatory terms. I do find it to be quaintly innocent, especially considering the context and intent in which it was employed. Sissy implies weakness as tied to the feminine, which ultimately is derogatory to women if used in a negative way. But in referring to my own struggles -- the awkwardness, ostracization, childlike and even playful nature of it -- the word expressed well my own feelings with regard to dealing with myself and the issue of communication...an issue generally assigned to the feminine sphere. It's not like I was talking about football. And sometimes you have to to consider the source, not simply the word itself. Methinks there are bigger fish to fry.

Not that I'm immune to or uninterested in pushing buttons once in while...

I wouldn't call that academic but . . . .

So the listener has to consider the source and work at interpreting what you actually meant?
That is on the communicator. Communicate to the listener what you intend to express, that's the purpose of communication.
Why do I have to consider your background, knowledge, awareness, intelligence etc when it comes to YOU attempting to transmit a message?
IF you say what you mean, then we're good.

I do find the word offensive, although no one calls me a sissy. I would use wuss.


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Reply #97 posted 11/16/09 11:02am

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SUPRMAN said:

heartbeatocean said:



No but calling a girl "tomboy" and it is not as derogative as calling a boy "sissy", because ultimately it is more shameful to emasculate a boy than it is to masculate a girl -- because underlying all this is the cultural baggage that it is less to be a girl than a boy, and that feminine qualities are inferior. That's why it's easier for women to wear pants than it is for men to wear dresses.


I agree. But even as a gay man, I don't feel effeminate or feminine which is probably why my reaction to the term is strong. I don't even want other gay men calling me "girl." I'm not the one.

I find this quite interesting. The defensive nature of your ownership of the term. Being one who feels effeminate and is effeminate, I had this term and many way worse forced upon my personhood from a very young age. Those terms don't hurt me anymore because I am confident and aware of my strength in the feminine. I am now coming into a connection with the masculine so I'm really entering into a place of balance.

It's interesting how some gay men put so much stock in masculinity that they resort to straight like beligerence if their "manhood" is questioned.
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Reply #98 posted 11/16/09 11:04am

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Vendetta1 said:

heartbeatocean said:



stereotypical, yes. What's so "Wow" about that?
Because most gay men I know don't act feminine.

"act" key word. How many gay men have a connection to the feminine but are so hysterical about the perceived weakness of the feminine that they put on an "act" so as to be accepted? Lots.
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Reply #99 posted 11/16/09 11:38am

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

SUPRMAN said:



I agree. But even as a gay man, I don't feel effeminate or feminine which is probably why my reaction to the term is strong. I don't even want other gay men calling me "girl." I'm not the one.

I find this quite interesting. The defensive nature of your ownership of the term. Being one who feels effeminate and is effeminate, I had this term and many way worse forced upon my personhood from a very young age. Those terms don't hurt me anymore because I am confident and aware of my strength in the feminine. I am now coming into a connection with the masculine so I'm really entering into a place of balance.

It's interesting how some gay men put so much stock in masculinity that they resort to straight like beligerence if their "manhood" is questioned.


What ownership of the term?

Straight like belligerence?
I, not being effeminate, nor feeling feminine, do not identify with being effeminate or feminine.
I simply don't relate.
The presumption seems to be that being a gay male and generally a bottom, that I do. I don't.
I don't see it a straight acting. I just see it as being me.
What I do in bed does not shape my identity as a man. Or make me feel less of a man.
I guess I put as much stock in my masculinity as the majority of men.
I don't want to be a woman, have never even dressed as a woman for halloween or any other event and definitely feel masculine, not feminine.
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