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meow85 said:[quote] Rightly said: I like Krishna Murti too. But he was a chosen 1 and he never had to deal with what normal mortals have to deal with. By the way, is nepotism any more silly than "being qualified"? So you were priveleged enough to go to college for a few years, while the not so priveleged were being exploited and humiliated in order to survive. check that whine. College isn't a big class issue here. There's no privilege. As long as you're a citizen you can apply for a student loan if you can't pay for school yourself. Of course, that does throw a person -like me -into a ridiculous amount of debt. But if it potentially can give you a leg up out of minimum wage jobs it's worth it. How can you compare nepotism to qualifications?[/quote] Well, it's like you said, most of these jobs requiring "qualified personel" are often very easy to carry out. If I was running a business and I liked my nephew, who also needed a job I'd consider his potential before I'd consider the credentials of a college-boy stranger, who happens to think he's entitled to an easy ride. small circles, big wheels!
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Rightly said:[quote] meow85 said: Rightly said: I like Krishna Murti too. But he was a chosen 1 and he never had to deal with what normal mortals have to deal with. By the way, is nepotism any more silly than "being qualified"? So you were priveleged enough to go to college for a few years, while the not so priveleged were being exploited and humiliated in order to survive. check that whine. College isn't a big class issue here. There's no privilege. As long as you're a citizen you can apply for a student loan if you can't pay for school yourself. Of course, that does throw a person -like me -into a ridiculous amount of debt. But if it potentially can give you a leg up out of minimum wage jobs it's worth it. How can you compare nepotism to qualifications?[/quote] Well, it's like you said, most of these jobs requiring "qualified personel" are often very easy to carry out. If I was running a business and I liked my nephew, who also needed a job I'd consider his potential before I'd consider the credentials of a college-boy stranger, who happens to think he's entitled to an easy ride. BINGO. That's reality right there, however, if I'm the college-girl stranger, I don't feel that i'm necessarily "entitled" to an easy ride to a job, but rather, I would expect a fair chance at my application and resume being reviewed qualifying for at least an interview for the position. I think mostly, everywhere, if you have a hiring manager that knows somebody, whether if it's family, a family friend, or a family friend's child, etc. they have most likely already hired them in their minds, but because they have other applicants, they literally waste these candidates time interviewing them, knowing the whole time that they already have in mind who they are going to hire. And to a person like me who just wants to be recogized for my work experience and education, I get passed over because someone wants to hire someone they know who is less than qualified for the job. These days its who you know, not what you know. Sad but true. [Edited 11/16/09 9:43am] I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince. | |
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Rightly said:[quote] meow85 said: Rightly said: I like Krishna Murti too. But he was a chosen 1 and he never had to deal with what normal mortals have to deal with. By the way, is nepotism any more silly than "being qualified"? So you were priveleged enough to go to college for a few years, while the not so priveleged were being exploited and humiliated in order to survive. check that whine. College isn't a big class issue here. There's no privilege. As long as you're a citizen you can apply for a student loan if you can't pay for school yourself. Of course, that does throw a person -like me -into a ridiculous amount of debt. But if it potentially can give you a leg up out of minimum wage jobs it's worth it. How can you compare nepotism to qualifications?[/quote] Well, it's like you said, most of these jobs requiring "qualified personel" are often very easy to carry out. If I was running a business and I liked my nephew, who also needed a job I'd consider his potential before I'd consider the credentials of a college-boy stranger, who happens to think he's entitled to an easy ride. 
I hope to God no one who genuinely needs a job ever tries to work for you. Why the animosity towards the college-boy stranger? That college-boy stranger might, God forbid, be competent. Why should your hypothetical nephew be given the easy ride? Because he displayed the admirable skill of happening to be your kin? [Edited 11/16/09 18:46pm] "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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missfee said: Rightly said: College isn't a big class issue here. There's no privilege. As long as you're a citizen you can apply for a student loan if you can't pay for school yourself. Of course, that does throw a person -like me -into a ridiculous amount of debt. But if it potentially can give you a leg up out of minimum wage jobs it's worth it. How can you compare nepotism to qualifications?[/quote] Well, it's like you said, most of these jobs requiring "qualified personel" are often very easy to carry out. If I was running a business and I liked my nephew, who also needed a job I'd consider his potential before I'd consider the credentials of a college-boy stranger, who happens to think he's entitled to an easy ride. BINGO. That's reality right there, however, if I'm the college-girl stranger, I don't feel that i'm necessarily "entitled" to an easy ride to a job, but rather, I would expect a fair chance at my application and resume being reviewed qualifying for at least an interview for the position. I think mostly, everywhere, if you have a hiring manager that knows somebody, whether if it's family, a family friend, or a family friend's child, etc. they have most likely already hired them in their minds, but because they have other applicants, they literally waste these candidates time interviewing them, knowing the whole time that they already have in mind who they are going to hire. And to a person like me who just wants to be recogized for my work experience and education, I get passed over because someone wants to hire someone they know who is less than qualified for the job. These days its who you know, not what you know. Sad but true. [Edited 11/16/09 9:43am] Cases of proven nepotism should be subject to large fines on the part of the business owner. Some incredible fuckups have gained and carried jobs they don't have the first clue how to perform and don't deserve all because of who their daddy is. A paycheque should be earned. "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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meow85 said: Rightly said: College isn't a big class issue here. There's no privilege. As long as you're a citizen you can apply for a student loan if you can't pay for school yourself. Of course, that does throw a person -like me -into a ridiculous amount of debt. But if it potentially can give you a leg up out of minimum wage jobs it's worth it. How can you compare nepotism to qualifications?[/quote] Well, it's like you said, most of these jobs requiring "qualified personel" are often very easy to carry out. If I was running a business and I liked my nephew, who also needed a job I'd consider his potential before I'd consider the credentials of a college-boy stranger, who happens to think he's entitled to an easy ride.
I hope to God no one who genuinely needs a job ever tries to work for you. Why the animosity towards the college-boy stranger? That college-boy stranger might, God forbid, be competent. Why should your hypothetical nephew be given the easy ride? Because he displayed the admirable skill of happening to be your kin? [Edited 11/16/09 18:46pm] If the stranger and the nephew were competent and keen, I'd take the nephew. small circles, big wheels!
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meow85 said: missfee said: BINGO. That's reality right there, however, if I'm the college-girl stranger, I don't feel that i'm necessarily "entitled" to an easy ride to a job, but rather, I would expect a fair chance at my application and resume being reviewed qualifying for at least an interview for the position. I think mostly, everywhere, if you have a hiring manager that knows somebody, whether if it's family, a family friend, or a family friend's child, etc. they have most likely already hired them in their minds, but because they have other applicants, they literally waste these candidates time interviewing them, knowing the whole time that they already have in mind who they are going to hire. And to a person like me who just wants to be recogized for my work experience and education, I get passed over because someone wants to hire someone they know who is less than qualified for the job. These days its who you know, not what you know. Sad but true. [Edited 11/16/09 9:43am] Cases of proven nepotism should be subject to large fines on the part of the business owner. Some incredible fuckups have gained and carried jobs they don't have the first clue how to perform and don't deserve all because of who their daddy is. A paycheque should be earned. Let me get this straight, if my son happened to be the infamous George W. Bush I certainly wouldn't put him in any kind of important position. Some incredible fuckups have gained and carried jobs they don't have the first clue how to perform and don't deserve all because they "studied" (and usually at someone elses' expense). A paycheque should be earned. I've nothing against the the college boy. I just think college or not, the job should be carried out by someone who can do it, and wants to do it. Often graduates get overpaid for jobs that a chimpanzee can carry out, while highly gifted, less priveleged individuals practically live the humiliating life of a slave until a premature death. you're young and educated, things will be brighten up. And I wish you good luck, whether you need it or not. small circles, big wheels!
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Rightly said: meow85 said: Cases of proven nepotism should be subject to large fines on the part of the business owner. Some incredible fuckups have gained and carried jobs they don't have the first clue how to perform and don't deserve all because of who their daddy is. A paycheque should be earned. Let me get this straight, if my son happened to be the infamous George W. Bush I certainly wouldn't put him in any kind of important position. Some incredible fuckups have gained and carried jobs they don't have the first clue how to perform and don't deserve all because they "studied" (and usually at someone elses' expense). A paycheque should be earned. I've nothing against the the college boy. I just think college or not, the job should be carried out by someone who can do it, and wants to do it. Often graduates get overpaid for jobs that a chimpanzee can carry out, while highly gifted, less priveleged individuals practically live the humiliating life of a slave until a premature death. you're young and educated, things will be brighten up. And I wish you good luck, whether you need it or not. Looks like I will need it. I don't have any relatives jumping to hand me jobs. "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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i'm so stuck in a rut right now... It seems like whenever i get my chips up...unckle sam is right there to take it back... my job is boring... my music carear is good localy...but i want more. rhode island is small poor and cold woman are tripping these dayz so your not the only one...i can relate | |
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meow85 said: Rightly said: Let me get this straight, if my son happened to be the infamous George W. Bush I certainly wouldn't put him in any kind of important position. Some incredible fuckups have gained and carried jobs they don't have the first clue how to perform and don't deserve all because they "studied" (and usually at someone elses' expense). A paycheque should be earned. I've nothing against the the college boy. I just think college or not, the job should be carried out by someone who can do it, and wants to do it. Often graduates get overpaid for jobs that a chimpanzee can carry out, while highly gifted, less priveleged individuals practically live the humiliating life of a slave until a premature death. you're young and educated, things will be brighten up. And I wish you good luck, whether you need it or not. Looks like I will need it. I don't have any relatives jumping to hand me jobs. I don't either.  I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince. | |
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i'm so stuck in a rut right now... It seems like whenever i get my chips up...unckle sam is right there to take it back... my job is boring... my music carear is good localy...but i want more. rhode island is small poor and cold woman are tripping these dayz so your not the only one...i can relate  I swear the words "HATER" is wayyy over-rated...smh | |
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Several people I know, both male and female, have recently taken up doing webcam work, becoming strippers, and even escort work to make ends meet. Has anyone in here considered any of those options? Have any of you actually done that kind of work? If so, how did it work out for you? Did you have good experiences?
I ask because I am considering becoming a "dancer" or doing webcam work. I have no moral qualms with prostitution but I personally don't feel comfortable attempting it living in a country where it's not fully legal and regulated. I owe too much money to even break even with a traditional job that I'd stand a chance at being hired at, and before I can even think about doing something crazy and frivolous like saving money I need to be debt-free. I'm just torn on whether or not I should take the leap. "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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meow85 said: Several people I know, both male and female, have recently taken up doing webcam work, becoming strippers, and even escort work to make ends meet. Has anyone in here considered any of those options? Have any of you actually done that kind of work? If so, how did it work out for you? Did you have good experiences?
I ask because I am considering becoming a "dancer" or doing webcam work. I have no moral qualms with prostitution but I personally don't feel comfortable attempting it living in a country where it's not fully legal and regulated. I owe too much money to even break even with a traditional job that I'd stand a chance at being hired at, and before I can even think about doing something crazy and frivolous like saving money I need to be debt-free. I'm just torn on whether or not I should take the leap. I was going to say "take the leap! What's there to lose" But I certainly wouldn't let my daughter do that at any age. See how complicated life gets when you've got a kid? 
Straight men don't have this option unless they're ready to go against their sexual nature. Otherwise (being my very own one and only parent)I'd probably had taken the leap more than once by now. I don't think it need be any kind of downhill spiral. Can't you just hold out until something less perturbing comes along? Take care. small circles, big wheels!
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Rightly said: meow85 said: Several people I know, both male and female, have recently taken up doing webcam work, becoming strippers, and even escort work to make ends meet. Has anyone in here considered any of those options? Have any of you actually done that kind of work? If so, how did it work out for you? Did you have good experiences?
I ask because I am considering becoming a "dancer" or doing webcam work. I have no moral qualms with prostitution but I personally don't feel comfortable attempting it living in a country where it's not fully legal and regulated. I owe too much money to even break even with a traditional job that I'd stand a chance at being hired at, and before I can even think about doing something crazy and frivolous like saving money I need to be debt-free. I'm just torn on whether or not I should take the leap. I was going to say "take the leap! What's there to lose" But I certainly wouldn't let my daughter do that at any age. See how complicated life gets when you've got a kid?
Straight men don't have this option unless they're ready to go against their sexual nature. Otherwise (being my very own one and only parent)I'd probably had taken the leap more than once by now. I don't think it need be any kind of downhill spiral. Can't you just hold out until something less perturbing comes along? Take care. it's been close to two years, and even with full time work I can't dig myself out of debt. I'm really starting to get worried I won't be able to do it with a conventional job. I already work full time and just took on a second 3/4 time job I'll be starting next week but I'm not confident this will go well. Already I'm at work all day and am exhausted going home, and I only ever end up with enough take home pay to level off my constantly overdrawn account back up to zero. Never mind saving anything or paying off what I owe. It bothers me a lot that I'm in this position because I haven't been irresponsible. I've always worked, even when I was in school. I went to school so I could be able to have better job opportunities but so far there's ben nothing on that front. My money hasn't disappeared on cars or big screen tv's or cocaine or anything stupid like that. It's just been living expenses. Pay rent with the credit card or be homeless, essentially. It's really frustrating because I feel like I work so hard and have nothing to show for it but an empty fridge. So yeah, it bothers me quite a lot when some lazy jackoff can just be handed a good job because Daddy owns a business or the neighbour lady has an in with some large company. I don't know what else to do but take up some kind of sex work.  "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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yeah, i'm in a rut. most def. not alone.
ConsciousContact said: You guys that are struggling with the purpose of your education and earning a living may find this useful.
http://tchl.freeweb.hu/th...ter_1.html  12/05/2011 
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meow85 said: Rightly said: I was going to say "take the leap! What's there to lose" But I certainly wouldn't let my daughter do that at any age. See how complicated life gets when you've got a kid?
Straight men don't have this option unless they're ready to go against their sexual nature. Otherwise (being my very own one and only parent)I'd probably had taken the leap more than once by now. I don't think it need be any kind of downhill spiral. Can't you just hold out until something less perturbing comes along? Take care. it's been close to two years, and even with full time work I can't dig myself out of debt. I'm really starting to get worried I won't be able to do it with a conventional job. I already work full time and just took on a second 3/4 time job I'll be starting next week but I'm not confident this will go well. Already I'm at work all day and am exhausted going home, and I only ever end up with enough take home pay to level off my constantly overdrawn account back up to zero. Never mind saving anything or paying off what I owe. It bothers me a lot that I'm in this position because I haven't been irresponsible. I've always worked, even when I was in school. I went to school so I could be able to have better job opportunities but so far there's ben nothing on that front. My money hasn't disappeared on cars or big screen tv's or cocaine or anything stupid like that. It's just been living expenses. Pay rent with the credit card or be homeless, essentially. It's really frustrating because I feel like I work so hard and have nothing to show for it but an empty fridge. So yeah, it bothers me quite a lot when some lazy jackoff can just be handed a good job because Daddy owns a business or the neighbour lady has an in with some large company. I don't know what else to do but take up some kind of sex work. What about your folks? Can they not help you out financially? Or someone with money and who knows you're not a slacker. (you've got to get out of the debt cycle) small circles, big wheels!
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matthewgrant said: yeah, i'm in a rut. most def. not alone.
ConsciousContact said: You guys that are struggling with the purpose of your education and earning a living may find this useful.
http://tchl.freeweb.hu/th...ter_1.html 
is that hungarian? small circles, big wheels!
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Rightly said: matthewgrant said: yeah, i'm in a rut. most def. not alone.
is that hungarian? no  I don't speak hungarian.
i just meant the OP was "most definitely" not going through shit alone. 12/05/2011
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Rightly said: meow85 said: it's been close to two years, and even with full time work I can't dig myself out of debt. I'm really starting to get worried I won't be able to do it with a conventional job. I already work full time and just took on a second 3/4 time job I'll be starting next week but I'm not confident this will go well. Already I'm at work all day and am exhausted going home, and I only ever end up with enough take home pay to level off my constantly overdrawn account back up to zero. Never mind saving anything or paying off what I owe. It bothers me a lot that I'm in this position because I haven't been irresponsible. I've always worked, even when I was in school. I went to school so I could be able to have better job opportunities but so far there's ben nothing on that front. My money hasn't disappeared on cars or big screen tv's or cocaine or anything stupid like that. It's just been living expenses. Pay rent with the credit card or be homeless, essentially. It's really frustrating because I feel like I work so hard and have nothing to show for it but an empty fridge. So yeah, it bothers me quite a lot when some lazy jackoff can just be handed a good job because Daddy owns a business or the neighbour lady has an in with some large company. I don't know what else to do but take up some kind of sex work. What about your folks? Can they not help you out financially? Or someone with money and who knows you're not a slacker. (you've got to get out of the debt cycle) I've already borrowed quite a lot of money from my mother, who herself is not financially well. I don't want to borrow any more from her because I have no way of paying it back, and she's my only family member in a position to lend anybody anything. "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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Story of my jacked up life. surviving on the thought of loving you, it's just like the water
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KidaDynamite said: Story of my jacked up life.
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Perhaps less time on the computer would help many of you. It can't be healthy to live your life on the computer. Step away completely for a year and I bet you will be in a much better place. |
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fielder said: Perhaps less time on the computer would help many of you. It can't be healthy to live your life on the computer. Step away completely for a year and I bet you will be in a much better place.
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fielder said: Perhaps less time on the computer would help many of you. It can't be healthy to live your life on the computer. Step away completely for a year and I bet you will be in a much better place.
What makes you think everyone in here spend their lives ob the computer? I mean, I do but that doesn't mean EVERYONE does. So you say that because we're young and you think that's what the youngin's do nowadays?surviving on the thought of loving you, it's just like the water
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meow85 said: Rightly said: What about your folks? Can they not help you out financially? Or someone with money and who knows you're not a slacker. (you've got to get out of the debt cycle) I've already borrowed quite a lot of money from my mother, who herself is not financially well. I don't want to borrow any more from her because I have no way of paying it back, and she's my only family member in a position to lend anybody anything. I wish I could help you out, or at last give you some good advice. I'm in a similar position but without the debts and without the porno option, and with less youth... I don't want to work full time, I just hate the idea. I"ve got and take care of my daughter who's happy & living with her mother. They are both quite comfortable, but I'm in a mess. I'm also going through a phase of only wanting to play my piano. and blank out the rest. It seems I can only look after 1 person at a time. I'm good with my daughter but at looking after myself I'm pretty useless I see you've got great taste in music There's an amazing song from John Cale called "dead or alive" If you can get onto that, play it loud and you might get a laugh out of it. all the best of luck to you! [Edited 11/22/09 3:31am] small circles, big wheels!
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meow85 said: missfee said: BINGO. That's reality right there, however, if I'm the college-girl stranger, I don't feel that i'm necessarily "entitled" to an easy ride to a job, but rather, I would expect a fair chance at my application and resume being reviewed qualifying for at least an interview for the position. I think mostly, everywhere, if you have a hiring manager that knows somebody, whether if it's family, a family friend, or a family friend's child, etc. they have most likely already hired them in their minds, but because they have other applicants, they literally waste these candidates time interviewing them, knowing the whole time that they already have in mind who they are going to hire. And to a person like me who just wants to be recogized for my work experience and education, I get passed over because someone wants to hire someone they know who is less than qualified for the job. These days its who you know, not what you know. Sad but true. [Edited 11/16/09 9:43am] Cases of proven nepotism should be subject to large fines on the part of the business owner. Some incredible fuckups have gained and carried jobs they don't have the first clue how to perform and don't deserve all because of who their daddy is. A paycheque should be earned. Why? Business owners own their businesses. They took a risk. They built the business. They invested in them (sweat and money). They're private entities. They can hire whomever they like. My father owned a business. At some point, everyone in our immediate family worked for him. My mother did accounts receiving. My sister did accounting and finance stuff (she was majoring in business at the university). My other sisters and I did general clerical work. My dad hired his children because he knew he had instilled his own work ethic in us - and because we also had a stake in how the business did. (It funded our education.) And it was cheaper to hire us - since we were already covered on the family insurance. He had two other full-time employees. Neither of them (to my knowledge) resented our being there. They were good, competent workers with whom we were all friendly - and who stayed in touch with my dad after he retired and sold the business. We were just there to provide some extra support when someone was on sick leave or during busy times. Would you rather he'd hired someone from the outside, then let them go a few weeks later when their services were no longer required? Now...a government job is a different matter. And you will note that the hiring practices are completely different as result. We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves. | |
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fielder said: Perhaps less time on the computer would help many of you. It can't be healthy to live your life on the computer. Step away completely for a year and I bet you will be in a much better place.
I went without a computer for the entire month of September this year and noticed a lot of positive health changes.  | |
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meow85 said: fielder said: Perhaps less time on the computer would help many of you. It can't be healthy to live your life on the computer. Step away completely for a year and I bet you will be in a much better place.
Thanks for casting about wild assumptions, jackass. I'm not the person spending all my time ONLINE crying over how life is unfair. I might be a jackass but I'm happy and I'm healthy.....are you? |
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fielder said: meow85 said: Thanks for casting about wild assumptions, jackass. I'm not the person spending all my time ONLINE crying over how life is unfair. I might be a jackass but I'm happy and I'm healthy.....are you? Hey, easy there. I know meow85 tends to open thread topics with some sort of complaint, but certainly she is trying to point out something that is not fair or incongruous. Ironically, the nephew who got a job through nepotism doesn't have to turn off HIS computer. | |
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fielder said: Perhaps less time on the computer would help many of you. It can't be healthy to live your life on the computer. Step away completely for a year and I bet you will be in a much better place.
don't be an ass. aren't you posting and browsing from behind your own computer? | |
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NMuzakNSoul said: fielder said: Perhaps less time on the computer would help many of you. It can't be healthy to live your life on the computer. Step away completely for a year and I bet you will be in a much better place.
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