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Reply #120 posted 11/05/09 3:35pm

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butterfli25 said:

really? I haven't heard yet.

Kay Bailey is giving info. I really like her and I hope she wins for governor. Don't know if I can actually bring myself to vote Republican but she's cool people. nod




ya, she seems really together... I havent heard much of anything from her till now...
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Reply #121 posted 11/05/09 3:37pm

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SCNDLS said:

butterfli25 said:

really? I haven't heard yet.

Kay Bailey is giving info. I really like her and I hope she wins for governor. Don't know if I can actually bring myself to vote Republican but she's cool people. nod

If it's between her and a crazy person, you'd have to vote for her. Too bad Republicans aren't completely discredited there.
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Reply #122 posted 11/05/09 3:37pm

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SCNDLS said:


Kay Bailey is giving info. I really like her and I hope she wins for governor. Don't know if I can actually bring myself to vote Republican but she's cool people. nod




ya, she seems really together... I havent heard much of anything from her till now...

She's from Ft Worth and is really good people and not as divisive as most Republicans from Texas. She was being considered to be McCain's VP running mate and she's now running for Governor of Texas.
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Reply #123 posted 11/05/09 3:41pm

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SCNDLS said:


Kay Bailey is giving info. I really like her and I hope she wins for governor. Don't know if I can actually bring myself to vote Republican but she's cool people. nod

If it's between her and a crazy person, you'd have to vote for her. Too bad Republicans aren't completely discredited there.

I guess you've never heard of Kinky Friedman huh??? sigh http://www.kinkyfriedman.com/

The Dems in Texas REALLY need to get their shit together because the state is bluer than ever yet they're gonna squander that capital. I have NO idea who the Democratic candidate is. Never heard of him. But I've met Kay many times and I know a lot of black folks who've worked with her over the years and they all have good things to say. And she comes across as very credible and knowledgeable. But I will say her voting record sucks, in general. But we don't have a lot of options and she's better than the current one . . . I think. We'll see.
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Reply #124 posted 11/05/09 3:43pm

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Wolf, you ain't never heard of Dollar General so why you trippin' over not recognizing his medical school??? rolleyes
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Reply #125 posted 11/05/09 3:45pm

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All I can say is I'm glad my son is in Iraq instead of still at Ft. Hood. And that's a damned shame. sad
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Reply #126 posted 11/05/09 3:46pm

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All I can say is I'm glad my son is in Iraq instead of still at Ft. Hood. And that's a damned shame. sad

You KNOW I was thinking about you. hug How's he doing?
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Reply #127 posted 11/05/09 3:51pm

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noimageatall said:

All I can say is I'm glad my son is in Iraq instead of still at Ft. Hood. And that's a damned shame. sad

You KNOW I was thinking about you. hug How's he doing?

hug I'm emailing him now to see if he heard. He's fine. He's in Taji. Will be coming home in April and then back to Ft. Hood for 4 months. Then he's out. I think I'll be more worried about him being at Ft. Hood. confused

The second person I thought of was Butterfli, since I knew she was close. hug First thing I thought was gang-bangers, but MSNBC says it was some "major" who did not want to be deployed to Iraq.
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Reply #128 posted 11/05/09 3:53pm

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SCNDLS said:


You KNOW I was thinking about you. hug How's he doing?

hug I'm emailing him now to see if he heard. He's fine. He's in Taji. Will be coming home in April and then back to Ft. Hood for 4 months. Then he's out. I think I'll be more worried about him being at Ft. Hood. confused

The second person I thought of was Butterfli, since I knew she was close. hug First thing I thought was gang-bangers, but MSNBC says it was some "major" who did not want to be deployed to Iraq.

I'll be praying for his speedy return. pray
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Reply #129 posted 11/05/09 3:55pm

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I understand why this is tragic but soldiers die on US soil and it's a major national story, they die on foreign soil and the country barely notices.
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Reply #130 posted 11/05/09 3:56pm

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hug I'm emailing him now to see if he heard. He's fine. He's in Taji. Will be coming home in April and then back to Ft. Hood for 4 months. Then he's out. I think I'll be more worried about him being at Ft. Hood. confused

The second person I thought of was Butterfli, since I knew she was close. hug First thing I thought was gang-bangers, but MSNBC says it was some "major" who did not want to be deployed to Iraq.

I'll be praying for his speedy return. pray

hug TY! I feel terrible for those who got shot. Seems they just shot randomly??? sad disbelief

I still don't understand why 2 others are in custody.
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Reply #131 posted 11/05/09 3:58pm

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I understand why this is tragic but soldiers die on US soil and it's a major national story, they die on foreign soil and the country barely notices.

C'mon Supa, soldiers being killed in a combat zone is not the same as being killed at en masse, at home, while unarmed, by one of your own.
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Reply #132 posted 11/05/09 3:59pm

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I understand why this is tragic but soldiers die on US soil and it's a major national story, they die on foreign soil and the country barely notices.

I don't know, Richard. I guess because if you are on foreign soil you know you may die and you know you are risking your life. You shouldn't have to worry about that on your own home base with your own fellow soldiers. shrug sad
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Reply #133 posted 11/05/09 4:05pm

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before everyone starts freaking out on me, I'm just making an observation. Why do we assume the violence inside a soldier stops because they are home? This is a bigger problem than the media will portray it as. If this individual was so stressed out and SPENT in this Iraq/Afghanistan experience that this is what he turned to, our military and civilian leaders need to think about what is really happening to our soldiers. They are not robots but we expect them to coast through all situations as if they arent' human.
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Reply #134 posted 11/05/09 4:09pm

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before everyone starts freaking out on me, I'm just making an observation. Why do we assume the violence inside a soldier stops because they are home? This is a bigger problem than the media will portray it as. If this individual was so stressed out and SPENT in this Iraq/Afghanistan experience that this is what he turned to, our military and civilian leaders need to think about what is really happening to our soldiers. They are not robots but we expect them to coast through all situations as if they arent' human.


That is true. It IS a bigger problem. The guys who beat up my son were given no punishment and a lot of leeway because they had just come back from Iraq and were "stressed." So they took it out on him. I can't even think about what my son may be dealing with in Iraq. sad
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Reply #135 posted 11/05/09 4:10pm

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butterfli25 said:

20 people were shot here about 30 minutes ago. I will fill you in as I get more info.

I am fine.



Thank The Lord!

I just saw this on the webpage for my local newspaper and came here straight away to see if you were okay.

I'm so sorry this has happened butterfly hug God Bless you and your community.

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Reply #136 posted 11/05/09 4:11pm

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before everyone starts freaking out on me, I'm just making an observation. Why do we assume the violence inside a soldier stops because they are home? This is a bigger problem than the media will portray it as. If this individual was so stressed out and SPENT in this Iraq/Afghanistan experience that this is what he turned to, our military and civilian leaders need to think about what is really happening to our soldiers. They are not robots but we expect them to coast through all situations as if they arent' human.

I hear what you're saying but do we even KNOW that he's been to Iraq before? And I think it has been reported that these soldiers need a lot of support when they return and they're trying to give it to them. I just don't think the resources are there to really make a difference.

I just want the gov't to cut their fucking losses and stop sacrificing our young men and women for a futile cause. I have friends that have done 3-4 tours. Bring them home, NOW! Until Barack keeps his promise on this issue I ain't checking for shit else he's got to say. hmph!
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Reply #137 posted 11/05/09 4:13pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

before everyone starts freaking out on me, I'm just making an observation. Why do we assume the violence inside a soldier stops because they are home? This is a bigger problem than the media will portray it as. If this individual was so stressed out and SPENT in this Iraq/Afghanistan experience that this is what he turned to, our military and civilian leaders need to think about what is really happening to our soldiers. They are not robots but we expect them to coast through all situations as if they arent' human.


That is true. It IS a bigger problem. The guys who beat up my son were given no punishment and a lot of leeway because they had just come back from Iraq and were "stressed." So they took it out on him. I can't even think about what my son may be dealing with in Iraq. sad

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Reply #138 posted 11/05/09 4:18pm

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tinaz said:



And the electronic store was called sight and sound!

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I saw my first Prince album at a sight and sound at Hahn AFB in the BX lol
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Reply #139 posted 11/05/09 4:19pm

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SCNDLS said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

before everyone starts freaking out on me, I'm just making an observation. Why do we assume the violence inside a soldier stops because they are home? This is a bigger problem than the media will portray it as. If this individual was so stressed out and SPENT in this Iraq/Afghanistan experience that this is what he turned to, our military and civilian leaders need to think about what is really happening to our soldiers. They are not robots but we expect them to coast through all situations as if they arent' human.

I hear what you're saying but do we even KNOW that he's been to Iraq before? And I think it has been reported that these soldiers need a lot of support when they return and they're trying to give it to them. I just don't think the resources are there to really make a difference.

I just want the gov't to cut their fucking losses and stop sacrificing our young men and women for a futile cause. I have friends that have done 3-4 tours. Bring them home, NOW! Until Barack keeps his promise on this issue I ain't checking for shit else he's got to say. hmph!


Well the bottom line in all of this is that our troops are being abused.
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Reply #140 posted 11/05/09 4:20pm

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tinaz said:

SCNDLS said:


Thanks hug

I have a lot of military fam. My brother's ex-marines, sister navy, lots of cousins serving, and they weren't even American when they joined. So, I understand the sacrifice they make too well. So it pisses me off that our soldiers are being placed in a futile, no win situation.




All the men in our family have served or are currently serving at this time.. flag

Is your son nervous?
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Reply #141 posted 11/05/09 4:20pm

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SCNDLS said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

I understand why this is tragic but soldiers die on US soil and it's a major national story, they die on foreign soil and the country barely notices.

C'mon Supa, soldiers being killed in a combat zone is not the same as being killed at en masse, at home, while unarmed, by one of your own.



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Reply #142 posted 11/05/09 4:28pm

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So the shooter was an Army psychiatrist??? And had been promoted to Major? WTF?? It must be bad if the ones who are supposed to help are the ones going crazy... neutral
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Reply #143 posted 11/05/09 4:30pm

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It was unclear why the two other soldiers were taken into custody. A senior administration official told NBC News that the shootings could have been a criminal matter rather than a terrorism-related attack and that there was no intelligence to suggest a plot against Fort Hood.

Military and local hospital officials said the victims were a mixture of men and women, military and civilian. At least one of those killed was a civilian police officer, Cone said. At least four local SWAT officers were among those wounded, NBC affiliate KCEN-TV of Waco reported.


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Reply #144 posted 11/05/09 4:31pm

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SCNDLS said:


I hear what you're saying but do we even KNOW that he's been to Iraq before? And I think it has been reported that these soldiers need a lot of support when they return and they're trying to give it to them. I just don't think the resources are there to really make a difference.

I just want the gov't to cut their fucking losses and stop sacrificing our young men and women for a futile cause. I have friends that have done 3-4 tours. Bring them home, NOW! Until Barack keeps his promise on this issue I ain't checking for shit else he's got to say. hmph!


Well the bottom line in all of this is that our troops are being abused.

Nobody is disputing that but this situation ain't the same as soldiers dying in combat hence the extra news coverage. And like I said we still don't know if the murderer was ever in Iraq so if he hasn't been he wasn't being abused so this massacre doesn't have the extenuating circumstances of him having PTSD. He was a medical doctor trained to care for these soldiers not murder them in cold blood. confused
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Reply #145 posted 11/05/09 4:32pm

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It was unclear why the two other soldiers were taken into custody. A senior administration official told NBC News that the shootings could have been a criminal matter rather than a terrorism-related attack and that there was no intelligence to suggest a plot against Fort Hood.

Military and local hospital officials said the victims were a mixture of men and women, military and civilian. At least one of those killed was a civilian police officer, Cone said. At least four local SWAT officers were among those wounded, NBC affiliate KCEN-TV of Waco reported.


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That's why I'm not gonna have a real opinion until we find out the deal with the other guys cuz this could be some kind of consipiracy.
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Reply #146 posted 11/05/09 4:38pm

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Preach, Gen. Honore!
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Reply #147 posted 11/05/09 4:42pm

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SCNDLS said:

Preach, Gen. Honore!

what is he saying???
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Reply #148 posted 11/05/09 4:47pm

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The killer is a converted Muslim.

The gunman, Major Malik Nadal Hasan, was described as a psychiatrist who didn't believe in the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, and wanted out of the military before he was set to be deployed overseas.

Hasan currently worked with soldiers at Darnall Army Medical Center on Fort Hood after being transfered in July from Walter Reed Army Medical Center where he worked for six years.
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Reply #149 posted 11/05/09 4:49pm

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Is Butterflie still @ the base?
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