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Thread started 11/02/09 4:32am

PanthaGirl

Why?.......

I was informed today that one of my work buddies had taken his own life yesterday. Everyone that knew him is feeling the tragedy and mostly still in shock because he was the last person anyone would have thought to go out that way. He was confident, funny, smart, had many friends, was a pin up guy and always had luck with the women.

I spoke to him a few days ago and he seemed unusually distant but I thought nothing of it because I knew he was still dealing with his fiance breaking off the engagement a few weeks ago. His death wasn't accidental, he took the time to write notes to his family and tie a noose to the ceiling and hang himself. I suppose nobody will ever know the personal reasons for his suicide but what I know is that peeps usually don't want to die, but what they do want is for the pain to stop and this seems like the only passage left. A weak decision yes, but on the other hand it would take so much strength to actually see it through to the end.

I've known peeps that have taken their own lives but that was mostly in high school, not these days. It always leaves that one question...with all the other options in life available to help....why? sad

Is there anyone here that would like to share an opinion or similiar event that they have dealt with?
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Reply #1 posted 11/02/09 4:35am

missmad

Is there anyone here that would like to share an opinion or similiar event that they have dealt with?[/quote]


I've wanted to simply because u think u have no way out. The specific reason of why? sometimes there isn't any.
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Reply #2 posted 11/02/09 4:36am

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PanthaGirl said:

I spoke to him a few days ago and he seemed unusually distant but I thought nothing of it because I knew he was still dealing with his fiance breaking off the engagement a few weeks ago.


well this would be a giant red flag, would it not?
everyone's a fruit & nut case
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Reply #3 posted 11/02/09 4:38am

ZombieKitten

whistle said:

PanthaGirl said:

I spoke to him a few days ago and he seemed unusually distant but I thought nothing of it because I knew he was still dealing with his fiance breaking off the engagement a few weeks ago.


well this would be a giant red flag, would it not?


a friend of mine is slowly (but surely we suspect) drinking himself to death after his divorce papers came through confused
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Reply #4 posted 11/02/09 4:41am

PanthaGirl

whistle said:

PanthaGirl said:

I spoke to him a few days ago and he seemed unusually distant but I thought nothing of it because I knew he was still dealing with his fiance breaking off the engagement a few weeks ago.


well this would be a giant red flag, would it not?


Well not necessarily because he was engaged to my best friend at work last year and even though that ended badly, they both managed to move on to new peeps and directions in their lives. If u knew him it just couldn't be picked because he seemingly had a thick skin of resistance. I knew he was depressed lately, but definately not suicidal... sigh
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Reply #5 posted 11/02/09 4:44am

PanthaGirl

missmad said

PanthaGirl said:

Is there anyone here that would like to share an opinion or similiar event that they have dealt with?



I've wanted to simply because u think u have no way out. The specific reason of why? sometimes there isn't any.



I'm so sorry to hear that. I wish u well.... sad
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Reply #6 posted 11/02/09 4:45am

whistle

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Well not necessarily because he was engaged to my best friend at work last year and even though that ended badly, they both managed to move on to new peeps and directions in their lives. If u knew him it just couldn't be picked because he seemingly had a thick skin of resistance. I knew he was depressed lately, but definately not suicidal... sigh


most people have a lot of secrets.
everyone's a fruit & nut case
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Reply #7 posted 11/02/09 4:46am

PanthaGirl

ZombieKitten said:

whistle said:



well this would be a giant red flag, would it not?


a friend of mine is slowly (but surely we suspect) drinking himself to death after his divorce papers came through confused


Wow okay I'm sorry to hear that, has anyone tried to have an intervention or just talk to him about it?
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Reply #8 posted 11/02/09 4:47am

PanthaGirl

whistle said:

PanthaGirl said:


Well not necessarily because he was engaged to my best friend at work last year and even though that ended badly, they both managed to move on to new peeps and directions in their lives. If u knew him it just couldn't be picked because he seemingly had a thick skin of resistance. I knew he was depressed lately, but definately not suicidal... sigh


most people have a lot of secrets.


Yah true that, some do some don't.
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Reply #9 posted 11/02/09 4:47am

whistle

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PanthaGirl said:

whistle said:



most people have a lot of secrets.


Yah true that, some do some don't.


men especially. we don't really share our innermost feelings with anyone. it's not a blokey thing to do.
everyone's a fruit & nut case
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Reply #10 posted 11/02/09 4:51am

MrsMdiver

I have no answers really. Many ppl do it for many reasons but I think it usually comes down to feeling like there is no other way to stop the pain.

Sorry to hear about this. My condolences to his family and friends.

rose
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Reply #11 posted 11/02/09 4:51am

PanthaGirl

whistle said:

PanthaGirl said:



Yah true that, some do some don't.


men especially. we don't really share our innermost feelings with anyone. it's not a blokey thing to do.


Wow okay. Wonder why though? I've known men to open up to me but of course I know there are sometimes demons left inside to roam.
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Reply #12 posted 11/02/09 4:54am

whistle

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whistle said:


Wow okay. Wonder why though? I've known men to open up to me but of course I know there are sometimes demons left inside to roam.


it's perceived as showing weakness, not something we're keen on.
everyone's a fruit & nut case
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Reply #13 posted 11/02/09 4:54am

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PanthaGirl said:

ZombieKitten said:



a friend of mine is slowly (but surely we suspect) drinking himself to death after his divorce papers came through confused


Wow okay I'm sorry to hear that, has anyone tried to have an intervention or just talk to him about it?


yup, he'll change for a short time, but eventually always goes back to his habits sad
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Reply #14 posted 11/02/09 4:59am

PanthaGirl

MrsMdiver said:

I have no answers really. Many ppl do it for many reasons but I think it usually comes down to feeling like there is no other way to stop the pain.

Sorry to hear about this. My condolences to his family and friends.

rose


Thanks hon' I appreciate that and ur words lovely ... hug
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Reply #15 posted 11/02/09 5:03am

PanthaGirl

whistle said:

PanthaGirl said:

Wow okay. Wonder why though? I've known men to open up to me but of course I know there are sometimes demons left inside to roam.


it's perceived as showing weakness, not something we're keen on.


I wish it was different.
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Reply #16 posted 11/02/09 5:08am

PanthaGirl

ZombieKitten said:

PanthaGirl said:



Wow okay I'm sorry to hear that, has anyone tried to have an intervention or just talk to him about it?


yup, he'll change for a short time, but eventually always goes back to his habits sad



Okay I understand mate and hear yah. It's so sad cause he is in dire straits, peeps are aware of it and he does need serious help. One of my uncles was a mess after his wife took the kids, the porche, the furniture and left him, he was on suicide watch for awhile but has since remarried and started over.
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Reply #17 posted 11/02/09 5:14am

ZombieKitten

PanthaGirl said:

ZombieKitten said:



yup, he'll change for a short time, but eventually always goes back to his habits sad



Okay I understand mate and hear yah. It's so sad cause he is in dire straits, peeps are aware of it and he does need serious help. One of my uncles was a mess after his wife took the kids, the porche, the furniture and left him, he was on suicide watch for awhile but has since remarried and started over.


this happened to him in 1996 I think sad he still hasn't met someone else or made a fresh start
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Reply #18 posted 11/02/09 5:15am

MrsMdiver

PanthaGirl said:

MrsMdiver said:

I have no answers really. Many ppl do it for many reasons but I think it usually comes down to feeling like there is no other way to stop the pain.

Sorry to hear about this. My condolences to his family and friends.

rose


Thanks hon' I appreciate that and ur words lovely ... hug


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Reply #19 posted 11/02/09 5:19am

PanthaGirl

ZombieKitten said:

PanthaGirl said:




Okay I understand mate and hear yah. It's so sad cause he is in dire straits, peeps are aware of it and he does need serious help. One of my uncles was a mess after his wife took the kids, the porche, the furniture and left him, he was on suicide watch for awhile but has since remarried and started over.


this happened to him in 1996 I think sad he still hasn't met someone else or made a fresh start


Wooww that's a long time mate, so he's sitting back watching the cars go past and drinking himself into oblivion all these years it seems he can't or won't break his fatal habits. Brutal and sad.
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Reply #20 posted 11/02/09 5:21am

ZombieKitten

PanthaGirl said:

ZombieKitten said:



this happened to him in 1996 I think sad he still hasn't met someone else or made a fresh start


Wooww that's a long time mate, so he's sitting back watching the cars go past and drinking himself into oblivion all these years it seems he can't or won't break his fatal habits. Brutal and sad.

and he's only 40
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Reply #21 posted 11/02/09 5:22am

PanthaGirl

ZombieKitten said:

PanthaGirl said:



Wooww that's a long time mate, so he's sitting back watching the cars go past and drinking himself into oblivion all these years it seems he can't or won't break his fatal habits. Brutal and sad.

and he's only 40


Still so young too.... disbelief
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Reply #22 posted 11/02/09 5:25am

Vendetta1

I am sorry for the loss of your friend, Christine. hug
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Reply #23 posted 11/02/09 5:27am

Mach

rose Deepest Sympathy ...

we will never understand why people choose to end their lives

I have lost many this way

Love to his loved ones and family
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Reply #24 posted 11/02/09 5:33am

PanthaGirl

Vendetta1 said:

I am sorry for the loss of your friend, Christine. hug


Thank u V ... hug
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Reply #25 posted 11/02/09 5:36am

PanthaGirl

Mach said:

rose Deepest Sympathy ...

we will never understand why people choose to end their lives

I have lost many this way

Love to his loved ones and family


Thanks Mach I appreciate it. His parents are a mess right now and my friend that was engaged to him blames herself. It's so hard on all ends.

rose
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Reply #26 posted 11/02/09 5:49am

BklynBabe

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that is so sad definitely you have my condolences! rose

I know I suffer from sevee depression, and unfortunately I have had days where I would rather be dead than to have to deal with any more bullshit in this world. Sometimes, even with talking it through with friends, and trying to make life better, it just feels like some everlasting misery, So unfortunately I can understand why, but I also know I could not do that to my family and friends, especially after losing my mom and my sister (natural causes). I know it would hurt them deeply.

When my sister passed I could not stop thinking how a person who loved people and loved life was gone and here I still was, feeling like the worse person on earth....

Sometimes your mind just is too insistent on dwelling on negative, and it takes a lot of work to see the positives. I fight every day to say that I am better than how I feel. So your friend probably had some serious demons inside of him that. But I wish he would have chosen any other option.
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Reply #27 posted 11/02/09 5:54am

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BklynBabe said:

that is so sad definitely you have my condolences! rose

I know I suffer from sevee depression, and unfortunately I have had days where I would rather be dead than to have to deal with any more bullshit in this world. Sometimes, even with talking it through with friends, and trying to make life better, it just feels like some everlasting misery, So unfortunately I can understand why, but I also know I could not do that to my family and friends, especially after losing my mom and my sister (natural causes). I know it would hurt them deeply.

When my sister passed I could not stop thinking how a person who loved people and loved life was gone and here I still was, feeling like the worse person on earth....

Sometimes your mind just is too insistent on dwelling on negative, and it takes a lot of work to see the positives. I fight every day to say that I am better than how I feel. So your friend probably had some serious demons inside of him that. But I wish he would have chosen any other option.
hug

I have felt like you on too many occassions.
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Reply #28 posted 11/02/09 6:01am

ThreadBare

I'm so sorry for your loss.

I've had a few friends who've chosen to end their lives. It's often the ones you don't expect and, naturally, you would have done whatever you could to prevent it.

Sometimes, the weight of life is unbearable to folks in a way their demeanor just doesn't allow you to see. If anything, your coworker's case seems to add weight to the theory that there's no stopping someone who's decided to do it.

Which stinks, because life invariably gets better.

sad
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Reply #29 posted 11/02/09 6:30am

peacenlovealwa
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People kill themselves because they see no way out of their problems...like someone who loses a job. They have a family and they are already struggling...like the man that killed his whole family or the guy that gunned down people at his former job. I can see why people kill themselves.
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