People kill themselves because they see no way out of their problems...like someone who loses a job. They have a family and they are already struggling...like the man that killed his whole family or the guy that gunned down people at his former job. I can see why people kill themselves.

I have felt like you on too many occassions.

Vendetta1 said:

sometimes i think it's harder for intelligent, realistic, caring people to make it in this world without going batshit crazy from all the stupid shit you see and have to deal with. For me, I am the type who beives in fairness, and honesty, and hard work, and I really do want to help people, and it's crazy to see people who want to have drama, and be ugky for no reason, and be lazy and selfish. Somedays I just can't deal because it's just not in my realm of understanding.

And I am raising a kid and he is just genetically a mess, and to see that it's like, "people can't even help themselves"....and that makes it worse. I know what I have genetically (bad temper, depression, anxiety) but I still try to rise above most of the time. But anyway somedays this world is just a hot mess, and people are just rude idiots.

And then some days are good....*sigh* but do they have to feel so far and few between?

peacenlovealways said:

I can see why, too. I sometimes think people who have never been there can't understand.

sometimes i think it's harder for intelligent, realistic, caring people to make it in this world without going batshit crazy from all the stupid shit you see and have to deal with. For me, I am the type who beives in fairness, and honesty, and hard work, and I really do want to help people, and it's crazy to see people who want to have drama, and be ugky for no reason, and be lazy and selfish. Somedays I just can't deal because it's just not in my realm of understanding.

I was informed today that one of my work buddies had taken his own life yesterday. Everyone that knew him is feeling the tragedy and mostly still in shock because he was the last person anyone would have thought to go out that way. He was confident, funny, smart, had many friends, was a pin up guy and always had luck with the women.

I spoke to him a few days ago and he seemed unusually distant but I thought nothing of it because I knew he was still dealing with his fiance breaking off the engagement a few weeks ago. His death wasn't accidental, he took the time to write notes to his family and tie a noose to the ceiling and hang himself. I suppose nobody will ever know the personal reasons for his suicide but what I know is that peeps usually don't want to die, but what they do want is for the pain to stop and this seems like the only passage left. A weak decision yes, but on the other hand it would take so much strength to actually see it through to the end.

I've known peeps that have taken their own lives but that was mostly in high school, not these days. It always leaves that one question...with all the other options in life available to help....why?

Is there anyone here that would like to share an opinion or similiar event that they have dealt with?

Mach said:

Thanks Mach I appreciate it. His parents are a mess right now and my friend that was engaged to him blames herself. It's so hard on all ends.

my grandfather committed suicide, and it has had a lifelong impact on my father..
suicide is nothing but selfish...selfish..selfish.

my grandfather committed suicide, and it has had a lifelong impact on my father..
suicide is nothing but selfish...selfish..selfish.

BlackAdder7 said:

I don't believe that for one second. It's like people want that person to stay around and continue to suffer, in my opinion.

Vendetta1 said:

When I see the brutal way in which some people leave horrific pieces for the living to pick up, I can't be so sure that it's solely a matter of someone trying to stop suffering. It's the ultimate vendetta (no pun intended) for some. I believe this. Especially when people plan on others to find them dead, hanging, mangled for the sole purpose of implication on that other person.

I feel very very conflicted on this because I think the majority of people who do this are suffering and I feel that some it's just the ultimate expression of their evil darkness.

Sorry to be discussing this way pantha and I hope your friend was simply in pain and not plotting against those he's leave behind.

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Well, I am not talking about those people. Most people who kill themselves are not trying to hurt those left behind because they don't feel like they care anyway.

that is so sad definitely you have my condolences!

I know I suffer from sevee depression, and unfortunately I have had days where I would rather be dead than to have to deal with any more bullshit in this world. Sometimes, even with talking it through with friends, and trying to make life better, it just feels like some everlasting misery, So unfortunately I can understand why, but I also know I could not do that to my family and friends, especially after losing my mom and my sister (natural causes). I know it would hurt them deeply.

When my sister passed I could not stop thinking how a person who loved people and loved life was gone and here I still was, feeling like the worse person on earth....

Sometimes your mind just is too insistent on dwelling on negative, and it takes a lot of work to see the positives. I fight every day to say that I am better than how I feel. So your friend probably had some serious demons inside of him that. But I wish he would have chosen any other option.

I'm so sorry for your loss.

I've had a few friends who've chosen to end their lives. It's often the ones you don't expect and, naturally, you would have done whatever you could to prevent it.

Sometimes, the weight of life is unbearable to folks in a way their demeanor just doesn't allow you to see. If anything, your coworker's case seems to add weight to the theory that there's no stopping someone who's decided to do it.

Which stinks, because life invariably gets better.

People kill themselves because they see no way out of their problems...like someone who loses a job. They have a family and they are already struggling...like the man that killed his whole family or the guy that gunned down people at his former job. I can see why people kill themselves.

PanthaGirl said:

sorry bout ur friend....

It's probably not a coincidence that his engagement fell through and this happened shortly after. I'm amazed at the weakness of the male race sometimes in those kinds of situations. I'm sorry that this happened and I hope for your and everyone else's healing.

my grandfather committed suicide, and it has had a lifelong impact on my father..
suicide is nothing but selfish...selfish..selfish.

I had friend back in 1994 that did the same thing for the same reason.
I had just seen him the day before and he was in a big hurry 2 get where he was going. When I look back on it, he was on his way 2 do the act when I saw him and they found him hanging only a few hours later.

Very sad indeed.

Vendetta1 said:

When I see the brutal way in which some people leave horrific pieces for the living to pick up, I can't be so sure that it's solely a matter of someone trying to stop suffering. It's the ultimate vendetta (no pun intended) for some. I believe this. Especially when people plan on others to find them dead, hanging, mangled for the sole purpose of implication on that other person.

I feel very very conflicted on this because I think the majority of people who do this are suffering and I feel that some it's just the ultimate expression of their evil darkness.

Sorry to be discussing this way pantha and I hope your friend was simply in pain and not plotting against those he's leave behind.

People kill themselves because they see no way out of their problems ...like someone who loses a job. They have a family and they are already struggling...like the man that killed his whole family or the guy that gunned down people at his former job. I can see why people kill themselves.

I was informed today that one of my work buddies had taken his own life yesterday. Everyone that knew him is feeling the tragedy and mostly still in shock because he was the last person anyone would have thought to go out that way. He was confident, funny, smart, had many friends, was a pin up guy and always had luck with the women.

I spoke to him a few days ago and he seemed unusually distant but I thought nothing of it because I knew he was still dealing with his fiance breaking off the engagement a few weeks ago. His death wasn't accidental, he took the time to write notes to his family and tie a noose to the ceiling and hang himself. I suppose nobody will ever know the personal reasons for his suicide but what I know is that peeps usually don't want to die, but what they do want is for the pain to stop and this seems like the only passage left. A weak decision yes, but on the other hand it would take so much strength to actually see it through to the end.

I've known peeps that have taken their own lives but that was mostly in high school, not these days. It always leaves that one question...with all the other options in life available to help....why?

Is there anyone here that would like to share an opinion or similiar event that they have dealt with?