A second cousin of mine whom I haven't even seen in 10 years (he was about 20 now, I think), yet lives in the same small town as me, shot himself this morning. Yet, I really don't care. Does this make me a bad person? Uncaring?

As I said, I don't care that he killed himself. I'm struggling more with whether or not I should be upset about it. Does it make me selfish?

AaronUnlimited said:

No.

No, it doesn't make you a bad person...

No. My Dad lives miles away from where i do, i don't miss him, i don't like him and if he died i wouldn't give a shit.

Cloudbuster said:

I always thought the same Cloudbuster,then he did die and I found out that I really did give a shit.

Much love Pochacco

Pochacco said:

Time will tell, I guess.

AaronUnlimited said:

Jesus. Who was it? Did anyone know he was struggling or why he did it?

someone you know has commited suicide and you really don't care & you start a thread about this on P Org , you're fuckin twisted and yes, "uncaring" at least
[This message was edited Sat Jan 11 14:02:46 PST 2003 by jnoel]

AaronUnlimited said:

Not at all. If you haven't seen them in 10 years then there is hardly any reason why would care.

Personally I wouldn't shed a tear if any of my non-immediate family died tragically suddenly. I hardly know them, never see them, and they are nothing to do with me. I'd feel no more depressed than I would from reading the obituary section of a newspaper...

"If you haven't seen them in 10 years then there is hardly any reason why would care" :speechless:
[This message was edited Sat Jan 11 14:11:22 PST 2003 by jnoel]

S'pose caring has a lot to do with any bond u have with a person. U say that u haven't seen him for 10 years... I wonder where your other reaction of struggling because you don't care comes from?

You don't sound like a 'bad' person, it makes sense that if you had no bond with him, you are not upset about him dying.

I don't believe in good and bad people anyway.

Therapy said:

???

But I care when someone I do not know has killed themselves...

So yes, you ARE uncaring!!! Are you an animal lover who cares more about animals than people? Do you not care WHY this person felt the need to kill himself? Is life so cheap to some people these days???

This is one twisted world we live in...

How do you feel about anyone committing suicide? If you find it generally an unfortunate thing, if you can manage empathy for any human (whether you know them or not) in this sad state, then that's a good thing. If not, well, perhaps you've become immune to the feelings of others and even out of touch with your own humanity?

If we mourned every death every day we would die ourselves from depression.

teller said:

Thsi is not about EVERY death, every day...this is about a relative...Of course I could not keep up with all the deaths in the world but you hear about some tragic events in the news etc...and I am just saying what a sad world it is when people just do not care anymore...

AnotherLover2 said:

Thank you AnotherLover2...

I was also wondering how much people cared about getting/not getting their ONA Live Box Set, yet someones death...?

AaronUnlimited said:

If you dont care, why ask the question in the first place...?

teller said:

Of course we can't invest deep emotions into every unfortunate situation, but not caring at all or becoming numb to the pain of others is a sign of society's disintegration (in my opinion).

AnotherLover2 said:

I cannot disagree...but everybody's got to die someday.

teller said:

At 20? In the saddest circumstances? Someone put a gun to their head, or wherever and felt the only way out is to shoot themselves? Maybe he asked for help before, but as society does not care, it seems, he felt that that was his only option?

Has anyone read the suicide thread?

Hopefully after reading this thread people will think twice...

Cloudbuster said:

???...and? I don't. To say 'He is a good person' or 'She is a bad person...'. People feel, think & behave in different ways, all the time. To narrow a person down to good or bad, is not to have the full understanding of a person. I believe that a persons behaviour can be deemed somewhere on the acceptable scale, or not. Obviously I think if someone killed someone else, that act is not acceptable. I think it is incredibly hard for some to open themselves to this concept at times...for various reasons.

AaronUnlimited said:

No, but personally I hate to hear about anyone dying a violent death. I'm very visual, so if I read a detailed account of something, I imagine it all practically in slow-mow with pain indicators. It's sad someone so young felt compelled to end his life.

Therapy said:

Fair 'nuff.

AaronUnlimited said:

what sad is that he was 20...as for you i dunno thats your call/.

TRON said:

a second cousin. dunno and dunno. waiting on the grapevine.

jnoel said:

as i said, i don't know him. haven't seen him in 10 years and he was a kid back then, and i probably could count on both hands the number of times i've seen him in my entire life.

thanks for your input, though.

AaronUnlimited said:

This reminds me of an episode of Daria.

REDFEATHERS said:

no. can't say i really give a rat's ass about most of the members of either group.



wonder? yes. care? no


of course it is. the market's flooded.

REDFEATHERS said:

if you read closesly (or not even that closely) what i've said is that i care if it makes me a bad/uncaring/selfish person. THAT is the question i asked.