Or what do you think about this! Getting sooo many informations about this pain, confuses me sometimes. Which version of that virus do you beliefe is right: The commun we know or this...

http://www.virusmyth.net/aids/



Am 15.01.2001 machte Richter Hackmann am Landgericht Dortmund (Ns 70 Js 878/99 14(XVII)K 11/00) in einer öffentlichen Verhandlung das Wissen der Bundesgesundheitsbehörden bekannt: Im Zusammenhang mit AIDS ist niemals ein Virus nachgewiesen worden! Richter Hackmann bezog sich hier auf eine Aussage des Dr. Marcus, Presse-Sprecher des für AIDS zuständigen wissenschaftlichen Referenzzentrums der Bundesregierung, dem Robert-Koch-Institut, RKI(Berlin). email: Lanka@free.de.
AIDS ist keine sexuell übertragbare Krankheit und hat auch nichts mit dem HIV zu tun. AIDS als Krankheit existiert nicht. Was heute unter dem Begriff AIDS zu einem der apokalyptischen Teiter gemacht wird, ist nichts anderes als der Zusammenbruch des Immunsystems. Hier wird eine tödliche Angst verbreitet, die für die Pharmazie zum Milliardengeschäft wird. Die Menschen sterben nicht an AIDS, sondern u.a. an dem tödlichen Zellgift AZT, das ihnen als "Medizin" verabreicht wird. Nicht das "virus" tötet, sondern schwere Unterernährung, mangelnde Hygiene, mangelndes sauberes Trinkwasser oder wie in der westlichen Welt: ein ungesunder Lebenswandel nebst schädigenden Umwelteinflüssen wie Elektrosmoke und Mikrowellen-Bestrahlung usw. "Das größte hindernis auf der Suche nach einer Erklärung für AIDS ist der Glaube an das HIV."(Dr. Eleni Eleopulos.Ein umfassendes Angebot an unterdrückten Hintergrundinformationen zu AIDS finden Sie im Internet unter der englischsprachigen Adresse: www.virusmyth.com oder unter der deutschen Kontaktadresse: Verein Wissenschaft, Medizin und Menschenrechte e.V., Ludwig-Pfau-Str. 1b, DE-70176 Stuttgart, Tel.: 0049-711-2220601, Fax: 0049-711-2220600.

Amazingly enough I know some guys who engage in the riskiest behavior and yet still keep coming up negative time after time. Makes you wonder what the truth really is...

Well, back in high school (early to mid 1990s), I remember coming across the question of whether HIV really causes AIDS, and I even considered writing a paper on it. Instead, I think I wrote a paper questioning whether the drug AZT (then a popular HIV medication) was really such a good idea.

I have no idea what the current consensus on AZT is, or whether there even is a consensus.

matt said:

Early 90ties I've been asked from the doctors, if I would like to get the AZT, I had to pay nothing as it was a study.
But I felt well and renuced.
Do you think I would still been alife if I had decided to take this medicine? - Sincerly, I think not.I am convinced.

Today I went to get results from a general blood analisis I made and I'm okay. Fisical okay.

Where's the explanation there, after 19years "positivity", should my health not been more afected?

If you ever come, :eye: realy hope you don't!, in a similar situation having to decide about medicine yes, or not, if I where you, I would realy think about it,if it is realy necessery to take them...
there can be have creativer ways.

The text you posted above is written in German. A basic summary: A German Court in the city of Dortmund in January 2002 has declared that the governmental department of health is very aware of the "fact" that AIDS is not caused by HIV. The judge, the article claims, has based this information on a statement by Dr. Ulrich Marcus, press-speaker of the highly respected Robert-Koch-Institut (famous for its cancer and AIDS-research).
As a journalist I got interested in this idea and the content of the website www.virusmyth.net
I just called Dr. Marcus and he dismissed the theory that AIDS is not connected with HIV as outright rubbish. He told me that the site is run by conspiracy activists. The trial from January 2002 was not about the knowledge of the german government. It was a trial against one of those activists who actually got sentenced on that trial and was proven wrong. he got sentenced because he kept on claiming in public, that HIV is not the reason for AIDS without having any prove for this theory. Dr Marcus told me that he got quoted on the text above, but he never had anything to do with the trial itself and he never believed that AIDS and HIV might not be connected. Basically you can say that the text above is false.
However, he did not have a truly satisfying explaination why so many biologists and chemists are opposing the offical AIDS-theory on the webiste. He said, with all due respect to the quoted scentists, none of them have actually done field research on the subject, so they may not be qualified enough to make such statements.
Personally, I believe its an interesting topic, but so far evidence is thin that the activists are right. However, I do believe that AIDS cannot be cured with mad medical treatments, and I do believe that the disease was a blessing for the pharma industry.
But just as I have a strong mistrust towards authorities, I do mistrust some activist group posting incomplete and edited and manipulated information on a webiste, so they can create their own truth.

I hope I was some help for you

soulpower said:

Yes, thank you very much for information.

It is very nice you do care about it.

How great it is to be at prince.org! Here is a proof as exemple:

soulpower!

Sataninas said:

Actually I retired from the org about a month ago. I still monitor it, but I dont post anymore and I dont visit the chat. The only reason why I came back for once is because what happend to you truly has moved me, and I dont want you to believe in infomation that is simply false. Never give up the hope though, if you have made it this far, you will make it. I wish you good luck and positive energy.
Peace

soulpower said:

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u retired mothafucka? nobody retires from the org! we need ur smart reasoning soulpower, come back!!!

Thanks for the translation Soulpower. I thought it was something like that.

I would always be careful of new/controversial statements like these. One off the cuff remark by the right (or wrong) scientist/clinician can change the direction of research and treatments. But it is often such statements that lead to the facts, it is unfortunately a slow process. Having said that, however, many of the therapies used today have been rigorously tested and you can be sure that you are better off with certain therapies than without. As an academic researcher we often face off against the “big boys” of pham industries. It is difficult to see the wood for the trees sometimes but the truth does normally come out in the end, the difference between them and us is that they always bounce back from mistakes. Unfortunately there are very few certainties in science. MHO, but I hope it helps.