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Thread started 10/23/09 11:33am

DesireeNevermi
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WHAT TO DO ABOUT TEEN GANGS??

Why are teen gangs so prevalent and increasingly violent? They terrorize entire communities and often, gang members have instilled fear in their own parents. Jailing these brats can't possibly be the only resolution. We have too many prisons as it is. sad
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Reply #1 posted 10/23/09 11:35am

Imago

Put them in the same cell as the "Tossing Salad Man"

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Reply #2 posted 10/23/09 11:37am

DesireeNevermi
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^ spit spit
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Reply #3 posted 10/23/09 11:48am

uPtoWnNY

These gangs are no joke, especially MS-13.

I'd send the National Guard into the gang-infested areas and tell them, "use those fuckers for target practice".
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Reply #4 posted 10/23/09 11:53am

DesireeNevermi
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uptown you aint kidding. they are a "mafia".


NATIONAL TERROR ALERT
http://www.nationalterror...m=20050114

America's Most Dangerous Gang
by Shelly Feuer Domash

Spreading from El Salvador to L.A. and across the United States, Mara Salvatrucha 13 is increasingly well organized and deadly.

Within one hour, two people were found murdered miles apart in suburban Nassau County, N.Y. After an intensive investigation, police officials learned the murders were the work of the violent street gang Mara Salvatrucha 13. It also soon became apparent the gang was sending a bold message to its members and associates. That message: “If you are not loyal, you are dead.”
But there was another message in the brutal slayings for the people of Long Island. And that message was that gang violence had moved into the upper middle class enclaves of the Island, into the kinds of communities where the locals assume that crime is somebody else’s problem.

Mara Salvatrucha 13 (MS-13) is unfortunately becoming everybody’s problem. This plague that came to Long Island from El Salvador by way of the streets of Los Angeles follows the same migratory patterns as the Salvadoran immigrant community that it preys upon, fanning out across the United States from ethnic enclaves in California.

Coming Together

Until recently, MS-13 wasn’t that big a player in East Coast gang culture. The reason for its weak position in the East Coast crime world was obvious: It wasn’t very well organized. MS-13 was comprised of a group of cliques that operated independently of each other.

No more. Law enforcement officials now report that gang members from across the country have come together to unite affiliated groups up and down the East Coast. The leadership for these cliques is now coming from as far away as California and even from El Salvador.

Robert Hart, senior agent in charge with the FBI, says that when individual groups of MS-13 unite, the results can be devastating. “The cliques, instead of operating independently of each other, are beginning to come together,” Hart explains. “The difference is by doing that, obviously you have a much tighter organization, much stronger structures and, instead of having various cliques doing whatever they want, wherever they want, there is one individual who is the leader and is able to control the payment of dues and the criminal acts they engage in. The result is very, very similar to what you would see in what we refer to as traditional organized criminal families.”
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Reply #5 posted 10/23/09 11:58am

DesireeNevermi
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It's a sad day when a society becomes afraid of what are supposed to be it's future.
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Reply #6 posted 10/23/09 2:30pm

SupaFunkyOrgan
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This is the shit our army needs to be dealing with exclaim
2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740
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Reply #7 posted 10/23/09 2:38pm

roodboi

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

This is the shit our army needs to be dealing with exclaim



unfortunately, alot of our current armed forces are made up of gang members...my business is in a military town...it's un-fucking-real the idiots that are allowed in the military ...alot of 'em are straight up thugs that are in full fucking gang regalia when not in uniform...it's sickening...
I understand that some got away from the bullshit by joining the military and deserve a chance to do right...but some didn't leave any of that shit behind, brought it right along with 'em...drive bys on a miltary base...disbelief
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Reply #8 posted 10/23/09 2:39pm

DesireeNevermi
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roodboi said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

This is the shit our army needs to be dealing with exclaim



unfortunately, alot of our current armed forces are made up of gang members...my business is in a military town...it's un-fucking-real the idiots that are allowed in the military ...alot of 'em are straight up thugs that are in full fucking gang regalia when not in uniform...it's sickening...
I understand that some got away from the bullshit by joining the military and deserve a chance to do right...but some didn't leave any of that shit behind, brought it right along with 'em...drive bys on a miltary base...disbelief



and they tryna keep gays out the military? this some bullshit.
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Reply #9 posted 10/23/09 2:47pm

roodboi

DesireeNevermind said:

roodboi said:




unfortunately, alot of our current armed forces are made up of gang members...my business is in a military town...it's un-fucking-real the idiots that are allowed in the military ...alot of 'em are straight up thugs that are in full fucking gang regalia when not in uniform...it's sickening...
I understand that some got away from the bullshit by joining the military and deserve a chance to do right...but some didn't leave any of that shit behind, brought it right along with 'em...drive bys on a miltary base...disbelief



and they tryna keep gays out the military? this some bullshit.


2 wars...
standards go down...
quotas go up...

it's straight bullshit...'don't tell' who you're fucking...but represent your punk ass criminal set all you want...mad
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Reply #10 posted 10/23/09 2:49pm

Imago

roodboi said:

DesireeNevermind said:




and they tryna keep gays out the military? this some bullshit.


2 wars...
standards go down...
quotas go up...

it's straight bullshit...'don't tell' who you're fucking...but represent your punk ass criminal set all you want...mad

We all do, darling.
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Reply #11 posted 10/23/09 2:49pm

JerseyKRS

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remember that most military are merely cannon fodder in the eyes of the govt.


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Reply #12 posted 10/23/09 2:51pm

DesireeNevermi
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well, military, boot camp or field labor...get these damn youth gangs out the neighborhoods and away from the L7 kids who are just trying to go to school. they are fuckin' things up seriously. they don't mean no bit of good to anyone.
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Reply #13 posted 10/23/09 2:52pm

roodboi

Imago said:

We all do, darling.

this may be the newest catch phrase sweeping the goddam nation...
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Reply #14 posted 10/23/09 3:00pm

Cuddles

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Imago said:

Put them in the same cell as the "Tossing Salad Man"



nasty
To make a thief, make an owner; to create crime, create laws.
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Reply #15 posted 10/23/09 3:18pm

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roodboi said:

DesireeNevermind said:




and they tryna keep gays out the military? this some bullshit.


2 wars...
standards go down...
quotas go up...

it's straight bullshit...'don't tell' who you're fucking...but represent your punk ass criminal set all you want...mad



It´s not really a new phenomenon. Even over here,in Germany,there were American soldiers who were also gang members and who would sometimes have fights with each other.This was in the late 80s, early 90s.
" I´d rather be a stank ass hoe because I´m not stupid. Oh my goodness! I got more drugs! I´m always funny dude...I´m hilarious! Are we gonna smoke?"
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Reply #16 posted 10/23/09 3:23pm

roodboi

KoolEaze said:

roodboi said:



2 wars...
standards go down...
quotas go up...

it's straight bullshit...'don't tell' who you're fucking...but represent your punk ass criminal set all you want...mad



It´s not really a new phenomenon. Even over here,in Germany,there were American soldiers who were also gang members and who would sometimes have fights with each other.This was in the late 80s, early 90s.

the problem is that there isn't much recourse for their stupid behavior...there was a time when behavior like that would have seen their ass discharged...now, not so much...
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Reply #17 posted 10/23/09 3:26pm

KoolEaze

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roodboi said:

KoolEaze said:




It´s not really a new phenomenon. Even over here,in Germany,there were American soldiers who were also gang members and who would sometimes have fights with each other.This was in the late 80s, early 90s.

the problem is that there isn't much recourse for their stupid behavior...there was a time when behavior like that would have seen their ass discharged...now, not so much...



Those fucking idiots even started shooting civilians over here, in Germany,of all places.
" I´d rather be a stank ass hoe because I´m not stupid. Oh my goodness! I got more drugs! I´m always funny dude...I´m hilarious! Are we gonna smoke?"
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Reply #18 posted 10/23/09 3:33pm

DesireeNevermi
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KoolEaze said:

roodboi said:


the problem is that there isn't much recourse for their stupid behavior...there was a time when behavior like that would have seen their ass discharged...now, not so much...



Those fucking idiots even started shooting civilians over here, in Germany,of all places.

eek
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Reply #19 posted 10/23/09 8:58pm

japanrocks

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Reply #20 posted 10/23/09 10:00pm

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Gangs have been around for a long time. When you look at the situation of children who are growing up in poverty, or in families where they don't feel loved, and are approached by recruiters of gangs who promise them a "home" and a "family" that will always watch their back, not to mention getting money..quick money is often a convincing choice compared to a bad home life and not having anything..

Its terrible. We have gangs where I live (like everywhere) and its a battle to win over the enticement they offer.
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Reply #21 posted 10/24/09 9:03am

abigail05

I don't think kid gloves are the answer to this problem.

Can these kids be saved, really? Or are they just going to be a cancer on this nation, and bring us all down?

I'd love to see what this country could do if we'd collectively put our efforts towards solving this kind of problem - seems like we've made some major strides against AIDS and cancer - can we do it with gang culture?
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Reply #22 posted 10/24/09 9:45am

IAintTheOne

beat they ass and take away the xbox smile
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Reply #23 posted 10/24/09 10:22am

ConsciousConta
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What do we do about the society which produces teen gangs? The society that you and me have created.
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Reply #24 posted 10/24/09 10:33am

abigail05

ConsciousContact said:

What do we do about the society which produces teen gangs? The society that you and me have created.



did we create it, or do we just allow it to exist?
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Reply #25 posted 10/25/09 1:48pm

ConsciousConta
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abigail05 said:

ConsciousContact said:

What do we do about the society which produces teen gangs? The society that you and me have created.



did we create it, or do we just allow it to exist?


If society is the relationship between you and I, then yes, I would say we have created it.

Is society corrupt by it s very nature? A corrupt society is bound to produce criminality. I would say that using violent means to deal with violent people is only reinforcing the problem.
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Reply #26 posted 10/25/09 2:05pm

GetAwayFromMe

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Firing squad?

Bullets to the head of all gang members would make me happy. smile
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Reply #27 posted 10/26/09 12:16am

abigail05

GetAwayFromMe said:

Firing squad?

Bullets to the head of all gang members would make me happy. smile



that's a pretty insensitive view.

But I can't say I hate the idea. smile
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Reply #28 posted 10/26/09 3:58am

iloveannie

GetAwayFromMe said:

Firing squad?

Bullets to the head of all gang members would make me happy. smile


I was gonna suggest a mass burning. Funny old thing life. So many elements that could be removed that would make it more pleasant.
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Reply #29 posted 10/26/09 9:26am

DesireeNevermi
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well I would like to think these kids can be saved but when they start raping old women, killing other kids who try to go to school and stay off drugs, and doing drive by shootings on innocent folk then I say put them on a deserted island and let them work it out Lord of the Flies style.
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