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PrintableCarrieMpls said: PanthaGirl said: Yah it's no good because Pantene leaves a buildup of silicone on the hair shaft and this is what makes the hair shiny looking and sleek, but due to this it does not cleanse the hair follicle. Basically any good shampoo will open the hair follicle, cleanse it, and then conditioner closes the follicle so this cannot happen when the silicone has built up around the shaft. I get my hair colored every 6-8 weeks - that pretty much strips everything off of it, hence why I think it worked OK for me. I can see that the build-up could cause problems otherwise. Okay yah considering U colour it that would make sense that it would definately work for U. My man also uses it on his dreads it works well on them considering the treatments he needed to have them processed. | |
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Imago said: All shampoos that soften hair must do so by maintaining a high-acid PH-balance--that's what soften's hair. It's kind of sad, but I learned that from my stylist.
 "high acid" is near neutral on the pH scale. the pH scale is as follows Zero is acidic 7 is neutral 14 is alkaline 4.5 - 5.5 is the acidic level of your tears, and saliva. That's why "baby shampoos" are less harsh on the eyes because they adjust the level of acidity to about 4.5 so it's the same pH as the eyes and tear ducts, and mucous, thereby minimizing a lot of burn. Hair perms alkaline, and are usually in the 9 or 10 range, sometimes 12 or 13, although there are "Acid Perms" that require you sitting under a hair dryer to activate it. They're also called "Cold Perms". The word "acid" isn't a bad word in the world hair. It's the same idealism that "alcohol" faces. A lot of "alcohol" in products is NOT the same drying element that rubbing alcohol can be. "Alcohol" can often be moisturizing, etc. We just know the words "acid" and "alcohol" as negative words, but in the world of chemicals and hair, they're not always as such. So "high acid" content could be somewhere between your tears and neutral on the pH scale. Acidic things close the cuticle on the hair shaft. Imagine a rose bud. You think about the layers on a rose, all the petals waiting to open. You have to wait for the petals to open to get to the center of the rose. The cuticle on the hair shaft is the same way. The more a chemical like shampoo or conditioner is on the "acid" side of the pH scale, the more the cuticle closes, and closed layers on a hair shaft create a smooth surface, which makes it a shiny surface (ergo, the smooth and shiny hair). When the rose opens, the petals, in effect, create a "rough" surface. The cuticle on the hair is the same. The more alkaline a product is on the hair, the more the hair cuticle opens, and creates a dull finish on the hair. It also lets hair dry out, and become straw like. Dry hair is damage hair where the cuticle is damaged to the point that it cannot close to retain moisture or have that smooth (shiny) surface. (Imagine wadding up a wet shirt. If it stays wadded up, it stays wet, but if you open up the shirt and spread it out, it dries out, right?) Then think about this: Perms are alkaline for the purpose of opening the hair cuticle and letting the chemical penetrate the hair shaft and medulla (the center "back bone" or "spine" of a hair shaft) to alter the chemical makeup of the hair (thereby making it straight, curly, or a different color). It's like making a rose (or any flower) open up to let a bee in to pollinate it. So in the end, "high acid" isn't a bad thing. Anything on the acid side-to-neutral is good for the hair, smooths it out, and helps lock in moisture and keeps a natural shine. If one's hair is coarse naturally (like black hair, a lot of Latino hair, etc), it can often times not have a good shine, and be dry by default. Find a low pH shampoo and conditioner (including a good leave in conditioner). A lot of cheaper shampoo coats the hair, creating a false sense of "smooth" or "shine", and it's not really helping the hair itself stay healthy. It's putting a band aid on a broken arm. Once hair is damaged, you can't "repair" it. Those products claiming as such are those that coat the hair w/ something so it "appears" to be healthy, but it's really not. And like anything, the coating can build up over time, giving the illusion of repaired hair. It's just coated w/ stuff to the point that it's masking the damage you might have. You just have to let it grow off and cut it off. Of course, new hair is healthy and "virgin", until you put chemicals on it again, like perms or coloring products. By the way, just for those who don't know, "pH" saying for "potential Hydrogen" | |
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Shampoos (with the exception of the Wen product line) are all mostly formulated the same.
The Clairol company owns many professional product lines and they use the similar formulations to make more cost effective products to get a larger consumer base. Aveda, Dove (intense damage), Bed Head, RedKin, Biolage, Nexxus, Garnier, Aphogee, C&O Bigelo etc. are all good, but you must mix and match according to your specific hair needs. IMO The important part that you don't skimp on is CONDITIONER. If you tend to have breakage then you will need to use a protein conditioner to rebuild the hair (1x/month). If your hair is dry then you will need a moisturizing conditioner that isn't too heavy and penetrates so that your hair combs through like butter. Ernestwell is right! Stay away from over styling your hair w/ too much heat. And if you don't know, then splurge on the professional products simply because they last longer because they aren't watered down like the cheaper stuff is. | |
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ernestsewell said: Imago said: All shampoos that soften hair must do so by maintaining a high-acid PH-balance--that's what soften's hair. It's kind of sad, but I learned that from my stylist.
"high acid" is near neutral on the pH scale. the pH scale is as follows Zero is acidic 7 is neutral 14 is alkaline 4.5 - 5.5 is the acidic level of your tears, and saliva. That's why "baby shampoos" are less harsh on the eyes because they adjust the level of acidity to about 4.5 so it's the same pH as the eyes and tear ducts, and mucous, thereby minimizing a lot of burn. Hair perms alkaline, and are usually in the 9 or 10 range, sometimes 12 or 13, although there are "Acid Perms" that require you sitting under a hair dryer to activate it. They're also called "Cold Perms". The word "acid" isn't a bad word in the world hair. It's the same idealism that "alcohol" faces. A lot of "alcohol" in products is NOT the same drying element that rubbing alcohol can be. "Alcohol" can often be moisturizing, etc. We just know the words "acid" and "alcohol" as negative words, but in the world of chemicals and hair, they're not always as such. So "high acid" content could be somewhere between your tears and neutral on the pH scale. Acidic things close the cuticle on the hair shaft. Imagine a rose bud. You think about the layers on a rose, all the petals waiting to open. You have to wait for the petals to open to get to the center of the rose. The cuticle on the hair shaft is the same way. The more a chemical like shampoo or conditioner is on the "acid" side of the pH scale, the more the cuticle closes, and closed layers on a hair shaft create a smooth surface, which makes it a shiny surface (ergo, the smooth and shiny hair). When the rose opens, the petals, in effect, create a "rough" surface. The cuticle on the hair is the same. The more alkaline a product is on the hair, the more the hair cuticle opens, and creates a dull finish on the hair. It also lets hair dry out, and become straw like. Dry hair is damage hair where the cuticle is damaged to the point that it cannot close to retain moisture or have that smooth (shiny) surface. (Imagine wadding up a wet shirt. If it stays wadded up, it stays wet, but if you open up the shirt and spread it out, it dries out, right?) Then think about this: Perms are alkaline for the purpose of opening the hair cuticle and letting the chemical penetrate the hair shaft and medulla (the center "back bone" or "spine" of a hair shaft) to alter the chemical makeup of the hair (thereby making it straight, curly, or a different color). It's like making a rose (or any flower) open up to let a bee in to pollinate it. So in the end, "high acid" isn't a bad thing. Anything on the acid side-to-neutral is good for the hair, smooths it out, and helps lock in moisture and keeps a natural shine. If one's hair is coarse naturally (like black hair, a lot of Latino hair, etc), it can often times not have a good shine, and be dry by default. Find a low pH shampoo and conditioner (including a good leave in conditioner). A lot of cheaper shampoo coats the hair, creating a false sense of "smooth" or "shine", and it's not really helping the hair itself stay healthy. It's putting a band aid on a broken arm. Once hair is damaged, you can't "repair" it. Those products claiming as such are those that coat the hair w/ something so it "appears" to be healthy, but it's really not. And like anything, the coating can build up over time, giving the illusion of repaired hair. It's just coated w/ stuff to the point that it's masking the damage you might have. You just have to let it grow off and cut it off. Of course, new hair is healthy and "virgin", until you put chemicals on it again, like perms or coloring products. By the way, just for those who don't know, "pH" saying for "potential Hydrogen"  what he said! | |
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veronikka said: CarrieMpls said: My stylist used to tell me not to use Pantene too, but I swear I've never had my hair look better or feel softer than when I was using it. I've tried all kinds of brands in all kinds of price ranges and it's up there as one of my favorites. In fact, I think I may go back to it. Interesting, I've been told Pantene fades red coloring? You can lose over 30% of your color in the FIRST SHAMPOO if you are using a cheap product. Ideally, you should let your hair kind of go unwashed (you can rinse it) for a couple of days after a coloring. You spend $40 on a coloring, and the first time you go home and shampoo, $13 of that right down the drain. Nexxus and Matrix both make good shampoos for colored hair. Paul Mitchell's Shampoo 2 (I think, or Shampoo 3) is made for colored hair. It has a lower pH, and helps keep the cuticle on the hair closed, so the colors stays locked in. If you use something like Pantene (which is notorious for stripping hair color out), or White Rain (which is even worse), your hair will look faded and not as great within that one shampoo. I used to tell clients, if you're going to spend $45 on a hair color by me, then spend the $8 on the shampoo to keep it looking great. Reds are very hard to maintain over time. Paul Mitchell used to have a line of colored shampoos that helped keep the color and highlights in the hair. There was brown, gold, red, etc that literally put color molecules into the hair (it was in the shampoo) to keep the color looking great. I worked at JCPenney in 1992 when Paul Mitchell first came out w/ that line. I had color on my hair, and used the golden brown shampoo. My hair ALWAYS looked as great as the day it was colored. (I always had mousy brown hair, and just kept the same color, but used a warmer tone for my color.) I think that either Nexxus or Matrix had those similar shampoos as well. It's worth digging and finding a good product like that, especially if you have red color in your hair. | |
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ernestsewell said: veronikka said: Interesting, I've been told Pantene fades red coloring? You spend $40 on a coloring, and the first time you go home and shampoo, $13 of that right down the drain. Nexxus and Matrix both make good shampoos for colored hair. Paul Mitchell's Shampoo 2 (I think, or Shampoo 3) is made for colored hair. It has a lower pH, and helps keep the cuticle on the hair closed, so the colors stays locked in. If you use something like Pantene (which is notorious for stripping hair color out), or White Rain (which is even worse), your hair will look faded and not as great within that one shampoo. I usually use Nexxus Therappe shampoo, is that a good one for colored hair? And what about conditioners? I tend to spend more money on my shampoo and buy a cheaper conditioner, or should I be spending the money on the conditioner too? Rhythm floods my heart♥The melody it feeds my soul | |
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veronikka said: I usually use Nexxus Therappe shampoo, is that a good one for colored hair?
And what about conditioners? I tend to spend more money on my shampoo and buy a cheaper conditioner, or should I be spending the money on the conditioner too? While Nexxus Therappe is good for hair, it's specifically formulated as a moisturizing shampoo, not a color-treated hair shampoo. Color Assure (formerly just Assure) is made for color-treated hair. Color Ensure is the conditioner for color-treated hair. If you also want a leave-in conditioner, try the Humectress Luxe, which is a lighter weight leave-in. Headress is leave-in, but thicker, and unless you have very, very dry and straw like hair, you wouldn't need it with in conjunction with a regular conditioner (in the shower-type) as well. It's okay to use a regular conditioner and a leave-in as well. They also make the Color Protection Volume in the Dualiste line, both shampoo and conditioner. They're like sister products, as the Assure/Ensure are, for color treated hair. I almost always recommend a leave-in conditioner for anyone w/ any chemical treatment on their hair (ie: color, perm, straightener, high lights, etc). I really like Paul Mitchell's The Conditioner. Takes such a small amount to do the job. For women's hair that is a bit longer, use about the same of a dime, no more. Rub it in your hands to emulsify it (it'll turn a bit white sometimes), and concentrate putting it into the middle-end of your hair. That's where you often have more damage because of chemical treatments, or just natural dry/split ends. Split ends can happen to anyone. It's an open end, vulnerable to air, heat, or whatever. It happens. A good leave-in can help shield against using heating elements like a hot iron or hair dyer. Also, to women.....NEVER EVER yank a comb through your tangled, wet hair!!!! EVER! Wet hair is 50% (or more) vulnerable to breakage than dry hair. Work the tangles from the ends, working toward the scalp, not vice versa. Don't "just comb through" the tangles. This instantly stretches, breaks, and damages the hair, resulting in a frizzy look, and dry ends, and split ends. Use the leave-in conditioner as a type of lubricant when trying to untangle the hair, dabbing a bit on here and there to keep the hair slicker and more likely to be untangled. Use a bigger toothed pick or comb, not a brush. BE EASY. Take the extra 30 seconds or 1 minute to work out the tangles, starting from the end and working UP, not from the scalp and going DOWN. Your hair, and your stylist, will thank you. You wouldn't just comb through a tangle on a shirt or a blanket or the hem of a dress. You'd go easy as not to tear or damage it. Your hair is no different. [Edited 10/21/09 13:28pm] | |
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ernestsewell said: Also, to women.....NEVER EVER yank a comb through your tangled, wet hair!!!! EVER! I have long hair, I've noticed if I brush it before I shower I have a lot fewer tangles afterwards My Legacy
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ernestsewell said: veronikka said: Interesting, I've been told Pantene fades red coloring? You can lose over 30% of your color in the FIRST SHAMPOO if you are using a cheap product. Ideally, you should let your hair kind of go unwashed (you can rinse it) for a couple of days after a coloring. You spend $40 on a coloring, and the first time you go home and shampoo, $13 of that right down the drain. Nexxus and Matrix both make good shampoos for colored hair. Paul Mitchell's Shampoo 2 (I think, or Shampoo 3) is made for colored hair. It has a lower pH, and helps keep the cuticle on the hair closed, so the colors stays locked in. If you use something like Pantene (which is notorious for stripping hair color out), or White Rain (which is even worse), your hair will look faded and not as great within that one shampoo. I used to tell clients, if you're going to spend $45 on a hair color by me, then spend the $8 on the shampoo to keep it looking great. Reds are very hard to maintain over time. Paul Mitchell used to have a line of colored shampoos that helped keep the color and highlights in the hair. There was brown, gold, red, etc that literally put color molecules into the hair (it was in the shampoo) to keep the color looking great. I worked at JCPenney in 1992 when Paul Mitchell first came out w/ that line. I had color on my hair, and used the golden brown shampoo. My hair ALWAYS looked as great as the day it was colored. (I always had mousy brown hair, and just kept the same color, but used a warmer tone for my color.) I think that either Nexxus or Matrix had those similar shampoos as well. It's worth digging and finding a good product like that, especially if you have red color in your hair. I've never liked using color-depositing shampoos and conditioners as a redhead because they alter the hue of my color. However, when I was a platinum blond I had a blue-tinted shampoo that made my hair positively radiantly platinum. In addition to the toning process (after the bleach) I used this shampoo and it took any brassiness away. I had to be careful, though, as if I used it more than about every third wash my hair would actually come out blue-tinted like the little old ladies. |
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CarrieMpls said: ernestsewell said: You can lose over 30% of your color in the FIRST SHAMPOO if you are using a cheap product. Ideally, you should let your hair kind of go unwashed (you can rinse it) for a couple of days after a coloring. You spend $40 on a coloring, and the first time you go home and shampoo, $13 of that right down the drain. Nexxus and Matrix both make good shampoos for colored hair. Paul Mitchell's Shampoo 2 (I think, or Shampoo 3) is made for colored hair. It has a lower pH, and helps keep the cuticle on the hair closed, so the colors stays locked in. If you use something like Pantene (which is notorious for stripping hair color out), or White Rain (which is even worse), your hair will look faded and not as great within that one shampoo. I used to tell clients, if you're going to spend $45 on a hair color by me, then spend the $8 on the shampoo to keep it looking great. Reds are very hard to maintain over time. Paul Mitchell used to have a line of colored shampoos that helped keep the color and highlights in the hair. There was brown, gold, red, etc that literally put color molecules into the hair (it was in the shampoo) to keep the color looking great. I worked at JCPenney in 1992 when Paul Mitchell first came out w/ that line. I had color on my hair, and used the golden brown shampoo. My hair ALWAYS looked as great as the day it was colored. (I always had mousy brown hair, and just kept the same color, but used a warmer tone for my color.) I think that either Nexxus or Matrix had those similar shampoos as well. It's worth digging and finding a good product like that, especially if you have red color in your hair. I've never liked using color-depositing shampoos and conditioners as a redhead because they alter the hue of my color. However, when I was a platinum blond I had a blue-tinted shampoo that made my hair positively radiantly platinum. In addition to the toning process (after the bleach) I used this shampoo and it took any brassiness away. I had to be careful, though, as if I used it more than about every third wash my hair would actually come out blue-tinted like the little old ladies. I love how you admitted to having 'journal entries' about your hairdo days.  | |
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Imago said: CarrieMpls said: I've never liked using color-depositing shampoos and conditioners as a redhead because they alter the hue of my color. However, when I was a platinum blond I had a blue-tinted shampoo that made my hair positively radiantly platinum. In addition to the toning process (after the bleach) I used this shampoo and it took any brassiness away. I had to be careful, though, as if I used it more than about every third wash my hair would actually come out blue-tinted like the little old ladies. I love how you admitted to having 'journal entries' about your hairdo days. 
It's true. I thought I was so intellectual and artsy and deep when I was young and when I look back all of my journal entries are about my hair and boys.  |
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ernestsewell said: veronikka said: I usually use Nexxus Therappe shampoo, is that a good one for colored hair?
And what about conditioners? I tend to spend more money on my shampoo and buy a cheaper conditioner, or should I be spending the money on the conditioner too? While Nexxus Therappe is good for hair, it's specifically formulated as a moisturizing shampoo, not a color-treated hair shampoo. Color Assure (formerly just Assure) is made for color-treated hair. Color Ensure is the conditioner for color-treated hair. If you also want a leave-in conditioner, try the Humectress Luxe, which is a lighter weight leave-in. Headress is leave-in, but thicker, and unless you have very, very dry and straw like hair, you wouldn't need it with in conjunction with a regular conditioner (in the shower-type) as well. It's okay to use a regular conditioner and a leave-in as well. They also make the Color Protection Volume in the Dualiste line, both shampoo and conditioner. They're like sister products, as the Assure/Ensure are, for color treated hair. I almost always recommend a leave-in conditioner for anyone w/ any chemical treatment on their hair (ie: color, perm, straightener, high lights, etc). I really like Paul Mitchell's The Conditioner. Takes such a small amount to do the job. For women's hair that is a bit longer, use about the same of a dime, no more. Rub it in your hands to emulsify it (it'll turn a bit white sometimes), and concentrate putting it into the middle-end of your hair. That's where you often have more damage because of chemical treatments, or just natural dry/split ends. Split ends can happen to anyone. It's an open end, vulnerable to air, heat, or whatever. It happens. A good leave-in can help shield against using heating elements like a hot iron or hair dyer. Also, to women.....NEVER EVER yank a comb through your tangled, wet hair!!!! EVER! Wet hair is 50% (or more) vulnerable to breakage than dry hair. Work the tangles from the ends, working toward the scalp, not vice versa. Don't "just comb through" the tangles. This instantly stretches, breaks, and damages the hair, resulting in a frizzy look, and dry ends, and split ends. Use the leave-in conditioner as a type of lubricant when trying to untangle the hair, dabbing a bit on here and there to keep the hair slicker and more likely to be untangled. Use a bigger toothed pick or comb, not a brush. BE EASY. Take the extra 30 seconds or 1 minute to work out the tangles, starting from the end and working UP, not from the scalp and going DOWN. Your hair, and your stylist, will thank you. You wouldn't just comb through a tangle on a shirt or a blanket or the hem of a dress. You'd go easy as not to tear or damage it. Your hair is no different. [Edited 10/21/09 13:28pm] too late ...did it a few minutes ago..yanked through my hair. unlucky7 reincarnated | |
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Optimum Oil Therapy!
It's in a yellow bottle. I get it at Walgreen's or Food Lion. It runs about $5.00. I use the shampoo, conditioner, leave in conditoner and hair serum. The shampoo and conditioner make my hair feel wicked soft and detangles. You can feel your hair is moisturized. Then what I do is use the leave in conditioner or the shine booster depending on if I am going to leave my hair wet or dry. I started flat ironing my hair which I was always scared to do and this stuff is awesome. Then before bed (if I am not too tired or lazy), I like to put the hair serum or dry hair healer and tie my hair up. The hair serum is really good. The dry hair healer is awesome but is very thick (not greasy, but more pomadey LOL) but if I slather it on and then wash my hair that stuff makes my hair feel so smooth. I have weird hair. It has 4 different strands. I have basically African hair but my primary hair is a reddish brown fine strand, then I have some really coarse black strands, some brown inbetween strands, and some really fine blonde strands. My hair is very dry and will mat, so I cannot go natural. I have to use a relaxer regularly. When I was young I brought into that myth that Black hair could not be washed frequently and would do the oils and stuff, but what I have found out is my hair craves daily moisture. My hair will break off if it gets too dry. I also used to put heat on my hair and that would break it too. So I had very damaged hair. But my hair grows very rapidly, but frizzes at the ends. I used to be able to go to a beauty salon and had a great stylist that would have my haor bouncing like a white girl! What I do now, and I have hair right now about 2 inches past my shoulders, is I wash my hair almost daily. I will use mostly the Optimum Care, but sometimes I'll switch around. Right now I also use Tresemme. I've used Suave, Pantene, Garnier Fructis. I use a anti-heat style product. Nexxus is the best, but I was broke, so right now I use Tresemme. The biggest thing is maintaining moisture but I cannot stand to have greasy hair either. If I do a wet style, Garnier Fructis mousse has been awesome to have that "curly" wet mixed person look (which was something I thought my hair could never do). If I have time then I flat iron which is also something I thought my hair would never tolerate. The best product is the Optimum Care to maintain oils and moisture. Cannot recommend it enough! Right now I am trying to grow my hair Aaliyah style LOL her grain of hair is way different from mine but my hair has really come a long way. I also use moisturing relaxers, Optimum Care or Dark and Lovely. The other thing that help my hair are those Gro Long hair bonnets. I get them at Walgreens. I can testify whatever they have treated those bonnets with really does help your hair grow. Basically if I coat my hair and tie my hair up that has been the best thing in the world. I have never had a dandruff problem either. The other things I use is Infusium. I will spray my hair and slather hair serum. And African Pride spray, I will spray that on too. Basically anything with natural oils! The one thing I miss is my hair bonnet dryer so I could sit under it and det a really good deep conditioning with heat. I have a ionic dryer that I really use, a wet to dry flat iron that surprisingly does not break my hair as long as I condition my hair well, a plug in heat comb and a regular flat iron/curler. Sheesh....I feel really vain and high maintenance now.  [Edited 10/21/09 19:04pm] | |
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BklynBabe said: Optimum Oil Therapy!
It's in a yellow bottle. I get it at Walgreen's or Food Lion. It runs about $5.00. I use the shampoo, conditioner, leave in conditoner and hair serum. The shampoo and conditioner make my hair feel wicked soft and detangles. You can feel your hair is moisturized. Then what I do is use the leave in conditioner or the shine booster depending on if I am going to leave my hair wet or dry. I started flat ironing my hair which I was always scared to do and this stuff is awesome. Then before bed (if I am not too tired or lazy, I like to put the hair serum or dry hair healer and tie my hair up. The hair serum is really good. The dry hair healer is awesome but is very thick (not greasy, but more pomadey LOL) but if I slather it on and then wash my hair that stuff makes my hair feel so smooth. I have weird hair. It has 4 different strands. I have basically African hair but my primary hair is a reddish brown fine strand, then I have some really coarse black strands, some brown inbetween strands, and some really fine blonde strands. My hair is very dry and will mat, so I cannot go natural. I have to use a relaxer regularly. When I was young I brought into that myth that Black hair could not be washed frequently and would do the oils and stuff, but what I have found out is my hair craves moisture. My hair will break off if it gets dry. I also used to put heat on my hair and that would break it too. So I had very damaged hair. But my hair grows very rapidly. But frizzes at the ends. What I do know, and I have hair right now about 2 in past my shoulders, is I wash my hair almost daily. I will use mostly the Optimum Care, but sometimes I'll switch around. Right now I also use Tresemme. I've used Suave, Pantene, Garnier Fructis. I use a anti-heat style product. Nexxus is the best, but I was broke, so right now I use Tresemme. The biggest thing is maintaining moisture but I cannot stand to have greasy hair either. If I do a wet style, Garnier Fructis mousse has been awesome to have that "curly" wet mixed person look (which was something I thought my hair could never do). If I have time then I flat iron which is also something I thought my hair would never tolerate. The best product is the Optimum Care to maintain oils and misture. Cannot recommend it enough! Right now I am trying to grow my hair Aaliyah style LOL her grain of hair is way different from mine but my hair has really come a long way. I also use moisturing relaxers, Optimum Care or Dark and Lovely. The other thing that help my hair are those Gro Long hair bonnets. I get them at Walgreens. I can testify whatever they have treated those bonnets with really does help your hair grow. Basically if I coat my hair and tie my hair up that has been the best thing in the world. I have never had a dandruff problem either. The other things I use is Infusium. I will spray my hair and slather hair serum. And African Pride spray, I will spray that on too. Basically anything with natural oils! The one thing I miss is my hair bonnet dryer so I could sit under it and det a really good deep conditioning with heat. I have a ionic dryer that I really use, a wet to dry flat iron that surprisingly does not break my hair as long as I condition my hair well, a plug in heat comb and a regular flat iron/curler. Sheesh....I feel really vain and high maintenance now. [Edited 10/21/09 19:19pm] whoops ...sent you a pm. [Edited 10/21/09 19:20pm] unlucky7 reincarnated | |
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Loreal has a new "sulfate free" shampoo called "Ever Pure" I really like it, its about $10- it stops colour treated hair from turning brassy & makes colour last longer.
 It also helps my dry scalp.
another new product i ADORE is morocan oil...i got mine at the beauty supply store. rub it all over towel dryed hair..instant shine & no oily feel. | |
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CarrieMpls said: Imago said: I love how you admitted to having 'journal entries' about your hairdo days.
It's true. I thought I was so intellectual and artsy and deep when I was young and when I look back all of my journal entries are about my hair and boys. Mine were probably about Hair and Prince. 
I'm glad I accidentally through my diary in the garbage. I mean, sooooo glad. | |
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I have tred many shampoos and conditioners
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nyse said: I have tred many shampoos and conditioners
and the two best brands in my opinion is Paul Mitchel and Bedhead trust me... Your hair is kinda epic too  | |
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^^^
when it comes to hair...I will never leed anyone in the wrong direction. cinnie also never use that shampoo/conditioner combination bottle bullshit. | |
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nyse said: ^^^
when it comes to hair...I will never leed anyone in the wrong direction. cinnie also never use that shampoo/conditioner combination bottle bullshit. i always needed more conditioner with those Rhythm floods my heart♥The melody it feeds my soul | |
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it truly defeats the purpose of useing a conditioner... its a scam...BTW ur hair looks nyse in ur av pic [Edited 10/21/09 21:54pm] | |
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nyse said: I have tred many shampoos and conditioners
and the two best brands in my opinion is Paul Mitchel and Bedhead trust me... Bedhead
To add to that, any product by TIGI (makers of bedhead). Also, Redken sells an 'urban' line of hair products that's formulated very similar to bedhead products. I actually preferred the Redkin products. I don't use those anymore, but I can vouch that they're really good. | |
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Free little bottles of shampoo in hotels. Failing that, just use the shower gel.
I have no love for my hair. | |
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i put a whole bunch of stuff in my hair  but I mostly use Pantene and Gardenia that does wonders  | |
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peacenlovealways said: PanthaGirl said: IMO only professional ones work for me, nothing from the supermarket it won't do ur hair any justice in the long run. The best I've found for my hair is Biolage, Kerastase, KLM, Joico etc...
Read a lot about Biolage...  I use Biolage on my hair all the time, I looooove it. It's a bit on the more expensive side, but soooo worth it. RIP, mom. I will forever miss and love you. | |
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PanthaGirl said: NDRU said: So what's the expert's opinion on dealing with...uh...dandruff?
 Matrix Biolage anti- dandruff shampoo and conditioner is high quality and it works. One of my friends uses it and swears by it. I use the regular Biolage shampoo and can say it is one of, if not the best brands I have utilised. Plus it smells good. Biolage was what my beautician used on my hair every time I went for a haircut. I asked her what she used, because I absolutely loved the scent. When she told me it was Biolage, I started using only that on my hair.
My local Penney's store recently had a great sale on Biolage products: Buy one, get a second one for 88 cents. It was almost like a buy one, get one free kind of deal. I bought two shampoos and two conditioners, because at that great price, I wasn't going to pass it by. I probably have enough shampoo and conditioner to last me a good six months. RIP, mom. I will forever miss and love you. | |
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Arn't most shampoos just whale fat mixed in with some other shit? Seriously, the ingredients in those things are pretty surprising LOL. | |
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ernestsewell said: As a stylist, I'd recommend a couple of things.
Aveda still makes great product. I find that people recommend product based on what's "popular" at the moment, but the companies that have been out there for a while are the ones w/ the good reputations and the good products. Stay away from Pantene, Suave, all that cheap shit. Also, get a leave in conditioner. They aren't oily or heavy, but they will protect your hair, and keep moisture in it without weighing it down. My hair is normal, maybe a tad on the fine side, but not much. (I find so many folks think their hair is "fine" or "baby fine" and it's actually just normal.) I can't use anything thick or heavy on mine. I have to use something like Paul Mitchell's leave-in The Conditioner. (You can use that on your skin too as a lotion...really!) Nexxus makes some fantastic product. Get their Therappee Shampoo and the Humectuss Conditioner (not a leave-in). Those are made specifically for dry hair. (I even used it a lot on black hair after I straightened it.) Use a regular intense conditioner in the shower once a week on top of your daily leave in treatment. Paul Mitchell's Super Charged conditioner is great for that (also good to shave with). You also have to remember to be careful with the heating products like blow dryers and curling irons. They REALLY reek havoc on the hair over time. Chemical processes do too (like perms, a LOT of coloring, especially lightening/bleaching). I agree with the leave in conditioner. I use this all the time, and it works great on my thick, coarse, naturally curly hair: 
Biolage by Matrix Daily Leave-In Tonic. This stuff is the best! When I used the rinse out type of conditioners, they didn't seem to do much for my hair. The leave-in conditioner works a lot better for me, so I just stuck with it. RIP, mom. I will forever miss and love you. | |
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