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Thread started 01/09/03 6:46am

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Time to give up smoking (my broken new years resolution)........Help!!!

Hey all,

Well, to start the new year off, I quit smoking. Lasted a week (longest amount of time quitting since I started) untill college started again but have started again.

I can really feel its toll on my health lately with the cold weather here in england & I really wanna quit sad. Ive tried chewing gum (ewww yuck) patches (which I had an allergic reaction to) & now the only way I can forsee myself actually quitting is complete cold turkey - all or nothing.

I like to smoke weed & do quite heavily & I dont see that as so much of a problem as tobacco as its not adictive & is less physically harmful. Ive started smoking a pipe instead of a spliff but that dont seem to help as I miss the rolling & need a ciggarette afterwards.

As Im only 19, I feel that now is the best time to quit the evils of tobacco but its so damn hard.

Does anyone have any advice or tricks to offer that might make my resolution easier to keep??? There must be an easier way to do this lol.

God bless

Lewis
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Reply #1 posted 01/09/03 6:49am

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Here is a suggestion:

Smoke a fat-ass joint every time you feel the need to smoke a cigarette. That will do it.
SUPERJOINT RITUAL - http://www.superjointritual.com
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Reply #2 posted 01/09/03 6:50am

4LOVE

You got to think about not smoking like you life depended on it. Go to websites or clinics and see the slow painful way cigarette smokers die.Also find a hobby and focus on that for awhile. I was never a serious smoker so that's about all the info i can give.
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Reply #3 posted 01/09/03 6:52am

AzureStar

I quit smoking a few months ago because Tony wanted me to be healthy... and so did I, but I wasn't able to do it on my own. It took my making a promise to him that I wouldn't smoke in order for me to stop.

Things that I have found that have helped:

Suck on straws
Eat carrots


If you go the route that I did and make a promise to someone you care about, each time you want to pick one up... think of that promise you made and decide if you really want to break it.


Best of luck to you... you can do it! smile
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Reply #4 posted 01/09/03 6:52am

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IceNine said:

Here is a suggestion:

Smoke a fat-ass joint every time you feel the need to smoke a cigarette. That will do it.

Ah man, you know thats what I wanna do but I'd still be smoking tobacco in the spliff sad. I tried smoking pure joints but I was just fried all day stoned

On that note, Im going for a joint lol
[This message was edited Thu Jan 9 6:54:03 PST 2003 by thecloud9mission]
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Reply #5 posted 01/09/03 6:53am

Pochacco

Im using those patch thingamebobs,it isnt easy but it really does help.

You can get them on prescription from your doc Lewis

Go on give em a try

Much love yes Pochacco
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Reply #6 posted 01/09/03 6:55am

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Pochacco said:

Im using those patch thingamebobs,it isnt easy but it really does help.

You can get them on prescription from your doc Lewis

Go on give em a try

Much love yes Pochacco

I tried them but I had an allergic reaction. Was walking to college with one on my arm & my arm started going dead & numb. Took it off when it became painful & it had burned my skin underneath. Doc says Im allergic to another chemical they put in them sad.
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Reply #7 posted 01/09/03 6:57am

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Well, I have been off the smokes for 7 days today smile...Cold Turkey...its one of the hardest things that I have had to do. But, its getting easier...I try not to think about it, and when I want one or need one I do something else...lately its been eating...I have put on 5 pounds so far...Thats the only bad thing...Just stick with it...You can do it...Give your self rewards or something...My reward is going to be that after 3 months of not smoking, all the money I have saved which will be around $600 my boss saud he would Double it!! Thats a huge reward to me...but give yourself little rewards each week. Start putting the money that you would spend on cigarettes each week away...then see how much money you have and spend it something that you need or have really wanted...

I don't know if this is going to help at all, but its worh it...you feel so much better...I know that I do anyway!

Good Luck with it..and if you need anyone to talk to .. org note me...I will try to help you all I can!
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Reply #8 posted 01/09/03 7:00am

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The addiction recovery method I advocate is "Rational Recovery." It sounds loopy at first, but it's based on the recognition and excercise of free will, NOT will-power.

It's for alcoholics, but it should work on cigarettes and heroin as well. Get the book, or go to RationalRecovery.org.

Addiction is NOT a disease. It's a choice.
Fear is the mind-killer.
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Reply #9 posted 01/09/03 7:01am

AzureStar

I haven't tried it, but I know people who have and have been successful with it... what about Zyban?
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Reply #10 posted 01/09/03 7:01am

Fhunkin

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I'am guilty too, after 4 month !! And the bad thing is I love it !!
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Reply #11 posted 01/09/03 7:06am

LaVisHh

As I see it, smoking is not an option.

Quit cold-turkey.

As 4LOVE said, it's a long, painful, ugly, and horrible way to go. I would certainly not pick this as my choice of death, and therefore do not smoke.

I won't get into what I went through caring for someone who died of cancer at 53, because it seems when I do that - I make people get all defensive, and it loses it's meaning.

You have probably seen this before, it's just a reminder.


Healthy lung

Cancered lung

http://www.immaculata.edu...ternet.htm

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What are the symptoms of lung cancer?

Lung cancer develops very slowly, and usually takes many years to show signs. If a person is exposed to carcinogens, the cancer will start its development immediately by multiplying cancer cells and spreading throughout the affected area, but will take many years to develop symptoms. The symptoms of the cancer depend upon where the tumor is found along with other factors. Some symptoms of lung cancer are: chest pain, chronic cough, loss of appetite, shortness of breath, fever with an unknown origin, wheezing, and recurring infections. Sometimes the person, if they have the disease, will cough up blood.

What causes lung cancer?

Smoking is considered the number one cause of lung cancer. The more time and amount a person smokes, the greater risk there is for him or her to develop lung cancer. If a person quits smoking, then the susceptibility to lung cancer slowly decreases as new normal cells emerge to replace abnormal cancerous cells. Also, second hand smoke may lead to the development of lung cancer. About 80% of people who develop lung cancer are smokers, or were smokers at one time.


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For help in quitting:

http://www.cancer.org/doc...tearea=PED

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For both you and your family, I pray you realize what it is doing to your body.



sad
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Reply #12 posted 01/09/03 7:06am

tommyalma

My dad said that when he quit smoking, he asked God to take away the desire, quit cold turkey, no patches (this was the '70s) and never looked back.
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Reply #13 posted 01/09/03 7:09am

LaVisHh

tommyalma said:

My dad said that when he quit smoking, he asked God to take away the desire, quit cold turkey, no patches (this was the '70s) and never looked back.


My dad quit cold-turkey too, in 1976 - He died 22 years later of Rheumatoid Arthritis.

At least he still had his dignity.
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Reply #14 posted 01/09/03 7:21am

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Stopping on Jan. 1st isn't working. The highest percentage of people that start again are those that stop on Jan.1st.
You might try to catch a cold, a big one, so you're having trouble breathing, so it's making you cough your lungs out if you smoke. Throw away your cigarettes. Try to maintain the cold for about 3 weeks. That's 3 weeks not smoked then. After it's over, don't buy new cigarettes, don't ask them from someone else et voila.
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Reply #15 posted 01/09/03 7:24am

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AzureStar said:

I haven't tried it, but I know people who have and have been successful with it... what about Zyban?


That's what I used, and it was a miracle--I'd smoked a pack and a half a day for about 13 yrs., and I never thought it would work. But it did! It allowed me to gradually decrease the amount I smoked and then quit entirely over about a week/less than a week. Plus, it made the cigs taste like shit somehow, too! It's a drug that helps with compulsive behaviors. In me, it allowed me to not fixate on the cigarette I wanted, and instead to jump to the next thought...

There are lots of options now--if the Zyban hadn't worked, I wanted to try the Nicotrol Inhaler. The gum only ever made me want to smoke a cig to get the taste out of my mouth. Never tried the patches.

Figure out what your "triggers" are for wanting a cig, and avoid them. For me, a couple were drinking coffee
or Diet Coke (caffeine) or being around other people who were smoking.
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Reply #16 posted 01/09/03 7:26am

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On a lighter note. My little sis said something so funny in school yesterday. She was learning about smoking dangers in school & mentioned I was giving up. The teacher said 'dont smoke or your lungs will look disgusting' to which she replied 'they are lungs, they look disgusting anyway'

lol
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Reply #17 posted 01/09/03 7:27am

AzureStar

thecloud9mission said:

On a lighter note. My little sis said something so funny in school yesterday. She was learning about smoking dangers in school & mentioned I was giving up. The teacher said 'dont smoke or your lungs will look disgusting' to which she replied 'they are lungs, they look disgusting anyway'

lol


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Reply #18 posted 01/09/03 7:32am

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JeePee said:

You might try to catch a cold, a big one, so you're having trouble breathing, so it's making you cough your lungs out if you smoke. Throw away your cigarettes. Try to maintain the cold for about 3 weeks. That's 3 weeks not smoked then. After it's over, don't buy new cigarettes, don't ask them from someone else et voila.

Actually funny you should say that. The longest Ive been without ciggarettes (before trying to give up on jan 1st) was when I had flu last month. Wernt even tryibng to quit but ended up going without for 5 days
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Reply #19 posted 01/09/03 7:32am

applekisses

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Hang in there, kiddo. My mom quit after 40 years of smoking. She used the gum, but I realize that doesn't work for everyone.
You can do it. smile
p.s.: Don't look at my avatar wink
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Reply #20 posted 01/09/03 7:36am

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Thanks Lavish !! Just what I needed !
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Reply #21 posted 01/09/03 7:37am

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My uncle used to smoke 400 a week but quit in less than one week. Good inspiration smile
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Reply #22 posted 01/09/03 7:39am

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Fhunkin said:

Thanks Lavish !! Just what I needed !

Yeah I'll second that. Nothing puts you off like a cancered lung
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Reply #23 posted 01/09/03 7:43am

LaVisHh

thecloud9mission said:

Fhunkin said:

Thanks Lavish !! Just what I needed !

Yeah I'll second that. Nothing puts you off like a cancered lung


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Thank me by quitting, ok? smile
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Reply #24 posted 01/09/03 8:03am

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Addiction is NOT a disease. It's a choice.


How do you know it's not a disease?
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Reply #25 posted 01/09/03 10:07am

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Take up running or some other activity in which you would never really be able to compete if you were still smoking.
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Reply #26 posted 01/09/03 10:18am

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I wish you so much luck..

I still smoke, only after 6:00 pm...stupid, huh?
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Reply #27 posted 01/09/03 10:39am

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ConsciousContact said:

teller said:


Addiction is NOT a disease. It's a choice.


How do you know it's not a disease?

It's the conclusion I reached after studying the various approaches...I found one author, Jack Trimpey, who's radical model and cure made perfect sense to me--it was consistent with what I understand about human nature and the brain.

Unfortunately, the Alcoholics Anonymous group HATES Trimpey and his approach, and he hates them back, which has set his efforts back by at least a decade.

It's all very controversial because so little is known about free will and how to use it, and having a "disease" of addiction seems so much easier because it absolves the addict of any responsibility for the choice to use, plus it holds out the hope to the addiction itself that he/she might have a pleasant "relapse" in the future.

When I go to quit smoking, I will be using AVRT (Addictive Voice Recognition Technique) to quit cold-turkey. No patches, no gum, no Wellbutrin (Xyban).
Fear is the mind-killer.
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Reply #28 posted 01/09/03 11:33am

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teller said:

ConsciousContact said:

teller said:


Addiction is NOT a disease. It's a choice.


How do you know it's not a disease?

It's the conclusion I reached after studying the various approaches...I found one author, Jack Trimpey, who's radical model and cure made perfect sense to me--it was consistent with what I understand about human nature and the brain.

Unfortunately, the Alcoholics Anonymous group HATES Trimpey and his approach, and he hates them back, which has set his efforts back by at least a decade.

It's all very controversial because so little is known about free will and how to use it, and having a "disease" of addiction seems so much easier because it absolves the addict of any responsibility for the choice to use, plus it holds out the hope to the addiction itself that he/she might have a pleasant "relapse" in the future.

When I go to quit smoking, I will be using AVRT (Addictive Voice Recognition Technique) to quit cold-turkey. No patches, no gum, no Wellbutrin (Xyban).

Thats an interesting take on it smile
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Reply #29 posted 01/09/03 11:39am

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Consider this: If you were stranded on a desert island where there was no tobacco...would you be climbing the walls, white-knuckling, dealing with an inner struggle? No...and that is the message you need to send to your body, which wants the pleasure of smoke, that there is none, that your decision is final and eternal...just don't even give the impression that you might cave--or else it will jump all over you begging!

The body is a bit like a dog, really...if it knows there's a treat, it will go nuts...just remember who's in charge.
Fear is the mind-killer.
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