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Thread started 10/08/09 1:06pm

paisleypark4

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has anyone here been to Morroco, Africa?

It looks so beautiful there nod







People ALWAYS give Africa a bad rap for everything but I seen some beautiful hot spots there.
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Reply #1 posted 10/08/09 1:53pm

Ottensen

I've been there quite often for photo shoots for fashion catalogs, and yes it is beautiful. However, one has to recognize that (as with anywhere) there is a disparity between the classes that can be stunning, and outside of the 4-5 star resort areas it is possible to experience severe culture shock. The easiest parts of cultural immersion for me was to dress modestly outside of the beach areas, enjoy the natural beauty between the landscape , architecture, and food, and enjoy free time wandering the souks, picking out tagines and other earthenware for my kitchen. Moments where I had difficulty adjusting included but were not limited to; observing the poverty that existed ( and realizing there were similarities and differences with how the poor live in my own country in the US), enduring the attitude of souk shopkeepers when we would haggle and I would win (as I generally do)... as a female I think it was expected for me to not be steely,determined, and well, to get what I wanted how I wanted it. Also as a westerner I had an attitude problem with not being able to walk into a shop and purchase a bottle of wine for sunsets on my terrace, as there is no liquor sold in public...then lastly coming to terms with the idea that everything good and bad related to my experience there all hangs on the balance of tourism supporting their fragile infrastructure. Without tourism (for however good or bad the experiences are there) there's no way to keep ordinary people fed and the place would disintegrate into a hot boiling mess.

But yes it is beautiful.
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Reply #2 posted 10/08/09 1:55pm

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i will be back to talk about this topic later but i got to go eek

but otherwise i LOVE africa and ive been dying to go there for a couple of years now

but other wise heres a picture of Ivory Coast

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Reply #3 posted 10/08/09 1:58pm

Ottensen

PurpleDiamond2009 said:

i will be back to talk about this topic later but i got to go eek

but otherwise i LOVE africa and ive been dying to go there for a couple of years now

but other wise heres a picture of Ivory Coast



The Ivory Coast? Hurry back, we want to hear more!!!

I thought the Ivory coast is still in upheaval, though...?
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Reply #4 posted 10/08/09 2:04pm

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WOW! THANK YOU GUYS FOR YOUR COMMENTS SO FAR!!


wasnt expecting so much feedback. So the touristy parts are the parts to stay at? Right on
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Reply #5 posted 10/08/09 2:06pm

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Pictures look beautiful. biggrin
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Reply #6 posted 10/08/09 2:19pm

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Dayclear said:

Pictures look beautiful. biggrin


Yes yes....they look so pure and awesome when I looked on google earth and google images.
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Reply #7 posted 10/08/09 3:55pm

Billmenever

typing I'd love to vistit and bring a friend. Play in the sun . Get all tanned then take a dip in that there pool. Ahh, call me a dreamer cloud9
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Reply #8 posted 10/08/09 4:06pm

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Ottensen said:

I've been there quite often for photo shoots for fashion catalogs, and yes it is beautiful. However, one has to recognize that (as with anywhere) there is a disparity between the classes that can be stunning, and outside of the 4-5 star resort areas it is possible to experience severe culture shock. The easiest parts of cultural immersion for me was to dress modestly outside of the beach areas, enjoy the natural beauty between the landscape , architecture, and food, and enjoy free time wandering the souks, picking out tagines and other earthenware for my kitchen. Moments where I had difficulty adjusting included but were not limited to; observing the poverty that existed ( and realizing there were similarities and differences with how the poor live in my own country in the US), enduring the attitude of souk shopkeepers when we would haggle and I would win (as I generally do)... as a female I think it was expected for me to not be steely,determined, and well, to get what I wanted how I wanted it. Also as a westerner I had an attitude problem with not being able to walk into a shop and purchase a bottle of wine for sunsets on my terrace, as there is no liquor sold in public...then lastly coming to terms with the idea that everything good and bad related to my experience there all hangs on the balance of tourism supporting their fragile infrastructure. Without tourism (for however good or bad the experiences are there) there's no way to keep ordinary people fed and the place would disintegrate into a hot boiling mess.

But yes it is beautiful.



I haven't been to Morocco, but Egypt.
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Reply #9 posted 10/08/09 4:15pm

Harlepolis

paisleypark4 said:



People ALWAYS give Africa a bad rap for everything but I seen some beautiful hot spots there.


I've been to both of Africa and the Middle East,,,,both get stereotyped repeatedly as "barbaric".

But take my word, they're more civilized in many ways than most Americans will ever get.

Why? Simple kinship and hospitality. I've enteracted with so many people from around the world but from my experience, I found Africans & Arabs to be the MOST hospitable people I ever met. And the fact that people there actually do give a shit about each other, don't get me wrong there's dividedness & hostility just like any place,,,,but they're not the rule.
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Reply #10 posted 10/08/09 4:19pm

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My experience with Morocco is that they try to rip off tourists whenever they can.

Greece is the best country for a holiday imo.






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Reply #11 posted 10/08/09 4:56pm

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Harlepolis said:

paisleypark4 said:



People ALWAYS give Africa a bad rap for everything but I seen some beautiful hot spots there.


I've been to both of Africa and the Middle East,,,,both get stereotyped repeatedly as "barbaric".

But take my word, they're more civilized in many ways than most Americans will ever get.

Why? Simple kinship and hospitality. I've enteracted with so many people from around the world but from my experience, I found Africans & Arabs to be the MOST hospitable people I ever met. And the fact that people there actually do give a shit about each other, don't get me wrong there's dividedness & hostility just like any place,,,,but they're not the rule.


hey im back! biggrin

but this is the point that i have wanted to make Western media protrays a very poor image of the continent Africa and they want to give people the impression that Africa is a sad place full of starving children war and genocide and no improvement economic or social wise

i dont know why they would want to protray the continent like this but IMO me being a black person in the States and doing extensive research on the African Disopra and the continenet of Africa i think its safe to say that it is because of racism and the media doesnt want to show places where everything is fine and people are taken care of and its with blacks running everything i can go deeper but i dont want to bore you lol

but despite all of this including the terrible things going on over there and Africas brutal European colonial past the continent countines to stand strong and get itself together even though there is still a whole lot more that needs to be done i think they can make it

just my twocents

and another picture this is Demo of Congo biggrin

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Reply #12 posted 10/08/09 6:45pm

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Nope, will do inshallah!

My father is nubian Egyptian, and that part of Africa is beautiful and historical!
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Reply #13 posted 10/09/09 7:00am

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PurpleDiamond2009 said:

Harlepolis said:



I've been to both of Africa and the Middle East,,,,both get stereotyped repeatedly as "barbaric".

But take my word, they're more civilized in many ways than most Americans will ever get.

Why? Simple kinship and hospitality. I've enteracted with so many people from around the world but from my experience, I found Africans & Arabs to be the MOST hospitable people I ever met. And the fact that people there actually do give a shit about each other, don't get me wrong there's dividedness & hostility just like any place,,,,but they're not the rule.


hey im back! biggrin

but this is the point that i have wanted to make Western media protrays a very poor image of the continent Africa and they want to give people the impression that Africa is a sad place full of starving children war and genocide and no improvement economic or social wise

i dont know why they would want to protray the continent like this but IMO me being a black person in the States and doing extensive research on the African Disopra and the continenet of Africa i think its safe to say that it is because of racism and the media doesnt want to show places where everything is fine and people are taken care of and its with blacks running everything i can go deeper but i dont want to bore you lol

but despite all of this including the terrible things going on over there and Africas brutal European colonial past the continent countines to stand strong and get itself together even though there is still a whole lot more that needs to be done i think they can make it

just my twocents

and another picture this is Demo of Congo biggrin





Got that right! We were just talking about this at Famous Daves and I said to myself let me find some nice hot vacation spots in Africa and it changed my viewpoint on alot of things
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Reply #14 posted 10/09/09 3:13pm

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Harlepolis said:

paisleypark4 said:



People ALWAYS give Africa a bad rap for everything but I seen some beautiful hot spots there.


I've been to both of Africa and the Middle East,,,,both get stereotyped repeatedly as "barbaric".

But take my word, they're more civilized in many ways than most Americans will ever get.

Why? Simple kinship and hospitality. I've enteracted with so many people from around the world but from my experience, I found Africans & Arabs to be the MOST hospitable people I ever met. And the fact that people there actually do give a shit about each other, don't get me wrong there's dividedness & hostility just like any place,,,,but they're not the rule.


The first question someone asks me when I say that i live in the middle east....

Is it peaceful there? Are people really civilized? or when we try to visit a western country they ask us to try and be civil disbelief disbelief What the hell lol

why the hell they ask those kind of questions.....we have the most beautiful and richest places in the world, from Egypt to Jordan (where i live) to morocco to Lebanon, to every part of the middle east, every country in the middle east has its unique tourism place, Its a great place to live in and we care about each other, at the end we are all human beings, no need for stereotyping or discrimination, An American girl called “orsola” came to Jordan with the peace crops years ago, and she stayed with us in our home for more than 4 months, we took care of her as part of the family , to the point that she didn’t want to go back to the Untied states , she started to cry , she didn’t want to leave , I miss her so much, I know she will revisit us someday ….we should all take care of each other at the end ….we are all human beings.
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Reply #15 posted 10/09/09 3:45pm

PanthaGirl

A friend of mine and her wife just got back from Morocco and Tunisia they loved it and highly recommended it, especially the overnight camel ride camp in the Sahara.
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Reply #16 posted 10/12/09 7:09am

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seeingvoices12 said:

Harlepolis said:



I've been to both of Africa and the Middle East,,,,both get stereotyped repeatedly as "barbaric".

But take my word, they're more civilized in many ways than most Americans will ever get.

Why? Simple kinship and hospitality. I've enteracted with so many people from around the world but from my experience, I found Africans & Arabs to be the MOST hospitable people I ever met. And the fact that people there actually do give a shit about each other, don't get me wrong there's dividedness & hostility just like any place,,,,but they're not the rule.


The first question someone asks me when I say that i live in the middle east....

Is it peaceful there? Are people really civilized? or when we try to visit a western country they ask us to try and be civil disbelief disbelief What the hell lol

why the hell they ask those kind of questions.....we have the most beautiful and richest places in the world, from Egypt to Jordan (where i live) to morocco to Lebanon, to every part of the middle east, every country in the middle east has its unique tourism place, Its a great place to live in and we care about each other, at the end we are all human beings, no need for stereotyping or discrimination, An American girl called “orsola” came to Jordan with the peace crops years ago, and she stayed with us in our home for more than 4 months, we took care of her as part of the family , to the point that she didn’t want to go back to the Untied states , she started to cry , she didn’t want to leave , I miss her so much, I know she will revisit us someday ….we should all take care of each other at the end ….we are all human beings.



Wow. Yes I do admit Middle Eastern people I have ALWAYS got along with well...I dont know what it is but they are very humble and proud people, despite their strong cultural beliefs they are hard working strong people. I don't think I have ever has a problem with any of them at all even the ones that knew I was gay.
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Reply #17 posted 10/12/09 7:41am

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I've been to Morroco a couple of times in the early ninetees.
We were in Agadir and also visited some other places, like Marrakech.
I liked it very much and it's a beautiful country, although it gets more and more touristy.
The first time we went there there were only about 25 people in the plane and Agadir was realy something different compared to spain or any of the other regular holiday destinations.
The last time we went there a lot of it was realy aimed at tourists.
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Reply #18 posted 10/12/09 8:03am

LleeLlee

Everyone I know who has been loves it.
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Reply #19 posted 10/12/09 10:37am

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paisleypark4 said:

seeingvoices12 said:



The first question someone asks me when I say that i live in the middle east....

Is it peaceful there? Are people really civilized? or when we try to visit a western country they ask us to try and be civil disbelief disbelief What the hell lol

why the hell they ask those kind of questions.....we have the most beautiful and richest places in the world, from Egypt to Jordan (where i live) to morocco to Lebanon, to every part of the middle east, every country in the middle east has its unique tourism place, Its a great place to live in and we care about each other, at the end we are all human beings, no need for stereotyping or discrimination, An American girl called “orsola” came to Jordan with the peace crops years ago, and she stayed with us in our home for more than 4 months, we took care of her as part of the family , to the point that she didn’t want to go back to the Untied states , she started to cry , she didn’t want to leave , I miss her so much, I know she will revisit us someday ….we should all take care of each other at the end ….we are all human beings.



Wow. Yes I do admit Middle Eastern people I have ALWAYS got along with well...I dont know what it is but they are very humble and proud people, despite their strong cultural beliefs they are hard working strong people. I don't think I have ever has a problem with any of them at all even the ones that knew I was gay.


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