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PrintableNDRU said: SCNDLS said:  Bionic Woman consisted of 8 episodes and his character was killed off so even if the show was picked up he wouldn't have been on it. That mess aired in '07 plus one episode on an A&E show in '08 are a far cry from starring on a hit show on network tv. And what are these four movies that are in production? Low budget, independent films I'm sure. So, comparatively, yeah it's a far cry from where he was before and a lot less work for an actor who worked steadily until this incident over 2 years ago.well, the fact is, he got a regular role on a pretty high profile show. So it wasn't like he got blackballed from the industry. He was working right away. They can't all be hits. The cast of seinfeld & friends haven't exactly matched their own levels of success either with subsequent shows/movies. Careers go up & down, that's the business. I think the biggest question is really why was he fired from Grey's Anatomy, and did he deserve it? Sorry, but a show that lasted only 8 episodes on which he was killed off before reaching the 8th episode is not high profile in my opinion. Furthermore, before this event Isaiah worked REGULARLY on tv and in movies for over 15 years. After this, not so much. All of the Seinfeld costars, except Richards, have had development deals and starred in their own shows that ran at least a season. How successful they ultimately were is irrelevant because they've gotten several opportunities since Seinfeld, even after failing miserable. Also they are STILL making millions annually off Seinfeld. So, it's really not the same thing IMO. | |
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SCNDLS said: NDRU said: well, the fact is, he got a regular role on a pretty high profile show. So it wasn't like he got blackballed from the industry. He was working right away. They can't all be hits. The cast of seinfeld & friends haven't exactly matched their own levels of success either with subsequent shows/movies. Careers go up & down, that's the business. I think the biggest question is really why was he fired from Grey's Anatomy, and did he deserve it? Sorry, but a show that lasted only 8 episodes on which he was killed off before reaching the 8th episode is not high profile in my opinion. Furthermore, before this event Isaiah worked REGULARLY on tv and in movies for over 15 years. After this, not so much. All of the Seinfeld costars, except Richards, have had development deals and starred in their own shows that ran at least a season. How successful they ultimately were is irrelevant because they've gotten several opportunities since Seinfeld, even after failing miserable. Also they are STILL making millions annually off Seinfeld. So, it's really not the same thing IMO. The Bionic Woman remake was on a major netowrk, got lots of promotion and the first episode was the highest rated show of its night. I'd say that's high profile. It got canceled in part due to the writers' strike and in part due to rapidly declining ratings of subsequent episodes. And just because Isaiah's character died in the seventh episode doesn't mean that he wouldn't have returned in a later episode if the series was allowed to continue. You know how these sci-fi shows are. Why are Jerry Seinfeld, Jason Alexander and Julia Louis-Dreyfus being compared to Isaiah Washington? | |
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SCNDLS said: NDRU said: well, the fact is, he got a regular role on a pretty high profile show. So it wasn't like he got blackballed from the industry. He was working right away. They can't all be hits. The cast of seinfeld & friends haven't exactly matched their own levels of success either with subsequent shows/movies. Careers go up & down, that's the business. I think the biggest question is really why was he fired from Grey's Anatomy, and did he deserve it? Sorry, but a show that lasted only 8 episodes on which he was killed off before reaching the 8th episode is not high profile in my opinion. Furthermore, before this event Isaiah worked REGULARLY on tv and in movies for over 15 years. After this, not so much. All of the Seinfeld costars, except Richards, have had development deals and starred in their own shows that ran at least a season. How successful they ultimately were is irrelevant because they've gotten several opportunities since Seinfeld, even after failing miserable. Also they are STILL making millions annually off Seinfeld. So, it's really not the same thing IMO. Whether or not they make millions off Seinfeld is not at all relevant to this situation, but I believe their success in subsequent series' is relevant because they haven't been very successful! And they're much bigger stars than him. This is not a Denzel or some other hot commodity whose career was ended, he's a pretty small time (albeit regular working, as you said) actor who got a role on a big show. Patrick Dempsy & Katherine Heigl aside, I don't see the Grey's stars doing that much outside of the show, either. The difference between now and then is that now he's recognizable. Before he was a nice looking decent anonymous actor, now he's Dr. Burke, and getting pidgeonholed has been a problem for a lot of TV actors, including the cast of Seinfeld. So I don't think it's only the "scandal." But having said all that...I admit I do think the scandal hurt.  [Edited 10/12/09 14:57pm] My Legacy
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sextonseven said: Why are Jerry Seinfeld, Jason Alexander and Julia Louis-Dreyfus being compared to Isaiah Washington? who would be a better comparison?  My Legacy
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sextonseven said: SCNDLS said: Sorry, but a show that lasted only 8 episodes on which he was killed off before reaching the 8th episode is not high profile in my opinion. Furthermore, before this event Isaiah worked REGULARLY on tv and in movies for over 15 years. After this, not so much. All of the Seinfeld costars, except Richards, have had development deals and starred in their own shows that ran at least a season. How successful they ultimately were is irrelevant because they've gotten several opportunities since Seinfeld, even after failing miserable. Also they are STILL making millions annually off Seinfeld. So, it's really not the same thing IMO. The Bionic Woman remake was on a major netowrk, got lots of promotion and the first episode was the highest rated show of its night. I'd say that's high profile. It got canceled in part due to the writers' strike and in part due to rapidly declining ratings of subsequent episodes. And just because Isaiah's character died in the seventh episode doesn't mean that he wouldn't have returned in a later episode if the series was allowed to continue. You know how these sci-fi shows are. Why are Jerry Seinfeld, Jason Alexander and Julia Louis-Dreyfus being compared to Isaiah Washington? We'll just have to disagree on what high profile is. He still hasn't appeared in anything since then, as far as I know, and like I said he worked regularly on tv and movies for 15 years. That's not the case now hence the question: Is he being treated fairly in comparison to other actors who've fucked up? [Edited 10/12/09 15:02pm] | |
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NDRU said: sextonseven said: Why are Jerry Seinfeld, Jason Alexander and Julia Louis-Dreyfus being compared to Isaiah Washington? who would be a better comparison? We've gotten a little off track here.  | |
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SCNDLS said: Mars23 said: Your headline really says it all. HE fucked up his career. No-one else.
Without that there would be no question. As for the Polanski reference, maybe in 32 years enough time will have passed to obscure what he did in the minds of Hollywood. HE made a mistake and apologized for it. That doesn't mean he should be blackballed. Roman Polanski broke the law and ran, Isaiah didn't break any laws. Funny, but it seems like a lot of other actors get chance after chance and are excused for their bad behavior because they're talented. How many chances did Robert Downey Jr get??? [Edited 10/8/09 16:48pm] SCNDLS you da best gurl  lubs yo threads.
Perhaps Isaiah in the hollywood doghouse b/c he used that "f" word that rhymes with maggot and he used it twice. Now the thing is, if he had not used it the second time and in public, he might still be employed on Greys b/c it would have been his word against the other dude's since nobody was there but the two of them during their disagreements. In that respect, Isaiah shot himself in the foot er uh bank account cuz he didn't keep his mouth shut. Honestly tho, I think they would have gotten rid of him eventually cuz they exceeded their minority quota but wutevs. The outcry against him came more when he used the word in public and people demanded his termination and threated boycotts against sponsors. You don't mess with the big dog's money. You are absolutely right in that he apologized and should be given another chance but considering Hollywood has a lot of gays, media whores, scared number crunchers, pedos, anorexic chicks and druggies - a select club if you will, I don't see him garnering any major lead roles any time soon. I honestly believe he was not part of that "club" and that's why he got somewhat blackballed. Hollywood looks after it's own and that's why the likes of Polanski, Allen, Downey Jr., all them starving actresses, and countless other industry folk who make poor choices and do so in public get the "welcome back" with open arms treatment. Incidently, the club also does not favor fat women, republicans, actresses over 45, asian actors/actresses in lead roles, black actresses in lead roles, movies with religious themes, movies that address racisim/sexism/classism, and movies that don't stereotype latinos. Isaiah aint the only one who's career has been jeopardized or made non-existent. He just got the n*&%ga wake up call as Mooney would say. my two pesos! | |
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DesireeNevermind said: SCNDLS said: HE made a mistake and apologized for it. That doesn't mean he should be blackballed. Roman Polanski broke the law and ran, Isaiah didn't break any laws. Funny, but it seems like a lot of other actors get chance after chance and are excused for their bad behavior because they're talented. How many chances did Robert Downey Jr get??? [Edited 10/8/09 16:48pm] SCNDLS you da best gurl lubs yo threads.
Perhaps Isaiah in the hollywood doghouse b/c he used that "f" word that rhymes with maggot and he used it twice. Now the thing is, if he had not used it the second time and in public, he might still be employed on Greys b/c it would have been his word against the other dude's since nobody was there but the two of them during their disagreements. In that respect, Isaiah shot himself in the foot er uh bank account cuz he didn't keep his mouth shut. Honestly tho, I think they would have gotten rid of him eventually cuz they exceeded their minority quota but wutevs. The outcry against him came more when he used the word in public and people demanded his termination and threated boycotts against sponsors. You don't mess with the big dog's money. You are absolutely right in that he apologized and should be given another chance but considering Hollywood has a lot of gays, media whores, scared number crunchers, pedos, anorexic chicks and druggies - a select club if you will, I don't see him garnering any major lead roles any time soon. I honestly believe he was not part of that "club" and that's why he got somewhat blackballed. Hollywood looks after it's own and that's why the likes of Polanski, Allen, Downey Jr., all them starving actresses, and countless other industry folk who make poor choices and do so in public get the "welcome back" with open arms treatment. Incidently, the club also does not favor fat women, republicans, actresses over 45, asian actors/actresses in lead roles, black actresses in lead roles, movies with religious themes, movies that address racisim/sexism/classism, and movies that don't stereotype latinos. Isaiah aint the only one who's career has been jeopardized or made non-existent. He just got the n*&%ga wake up call as Mooney would say. my two pesos! Preach, Desiree!  | |
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